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Ever since Ouyang Dehe was invited by Li Xiao's family to attend a charity dinner in the capital, he made up his mind to learn to speak fluent English.
After these years of hard work, not only he can speak fluent English, but Xi Weixing can also speak fluent English, so there is no problem in communicating with the representative of Helan Asman Company, and there is no need for someone to translate .
"The boss is here!" Tan Zhengdao quickly saluted Ouyang Dehe and said.
"You have done a good job. Not everyone can enter the R&D center." Ouyang Dehe nodded and said to Tan Zhengdao with a smile on his face.
"Who are you? Am I wrong?" Representative Asman said arrogantly.
"Then you don't need to help us any more in the future. We Huaxia people can find a way to solve the difficulties by ourselves. We don't need to buy your lithography machines. Anyway, you won't sell us the lithography machines that we Huaxia people want. We can manufacture the lithography machine you want to sell to us." Ouyang Dehe said bluntly.
At this time, the top management of Xingguang Technology Company had already walked out of the R&D center to welcome their boss Ouyang Dehe.
After Ouyang Dehe finished speaking, he shook hands with the company executives who came to greet him, and congratulated them for finally developing a lithography machine that can meet the 45nm process technology to manufacture chips.
After that, accompanied by everyone, a group of people walked directly into the R&D center and came to the newly developed lithography machine.
"For lithography machine technology, 90nm is a technological step, 45nm is a technological step, and 22nm is a technological step... It is not difficult to upgrade 90nm technology to 65nm, but 45nm technology requires It is much more difficult than 65nm, and it is not a level of technology." An expert from the R&D center explained to Ouyang Dehe.
"Between 45nm process technology and 22nm process technology, there are at least 40nm process technology, 32nm process technology, and 28nm process technology. Can this lithography machine also meet the chip production requirements of these process technologies?" Ouyang Dehe asked with concern.
"Theoretically, it is completely achievable, but it still needs technical upgrades, and it is not possible to meet the technical requirements now." The scientific research expert explained with a smile.
"Is it difficult?" Ouyang Dehe asked again.
"It's not very difficult, right? If you just upgrade on the original basis and turn it into a photolithography machine that can process 40-nanometer process chips, it will take up to a month." The scientific research expert explained.
"However, it will take at least half a year to re-produce a lithography machine capable of processing 40nm process chips."
"As for the lithography machine with 32nm technology, it will take longer."
"I see." Ouyang Dehe nodded and said.
"This is a DUV immersion lithography machine with a 193nm light source immersion system. Liquid is introduced into the optical lens and silicon wafer as a medium. Under the conditions of the original light source and lens, the etching accuracy can be significantly improved. The technology has It has reached the technical level of Asman, except for the EUV lithography machine, and can basically meet the technical requirements of global chip companies." The scientific research expert said proudly.
"Science and technology are constantly improving, and the current requirements can be met temporarily, but in the future, 10nm, 7nm, 5nm, and even 1nm process technology will be launched, so what should we do?"
"So the research and development work cannot stop. Takyu Electric is now preparing to mass-produce the 22nm process technology. Compared with this, we are still several steps behind others!" Ouyang Dehe said seriously.
"Yes, the boss is right, it's just that the exposure technology that requires extremely deep ultraviolet rays, that is, the EUV lithography machine technology. At present, Asman Company in Helan is only at the stage of testing prototypes and wants to reach mass production. It will take at least a few years to break through the ultra-deep ultraviolet light exposure technology." The R&D expert explained hastily.
"Because of this, we still have time to catch up with each other! Do we have to wait for the other party to develop it first before we can develop it later? Are we going to be a few levels behind the other party forever?"
Under Ouyang Dehe's continuous questioning, the scientific research experts explaining it inevitably became a little embarrassed. They really didn't know how to refute the boss!Besides, the boss did not say anything wrong.
"How much does it cost to order such a 45nm lithography machine from Asi Slow?"
Ouyang Dehe didn't continue the topic just now, for fear of hurting everyone's morale.
"In 45, Huaxin International ordered a DUV immersion lithography machine from Asman in Helan, which can meet the production requirements of 200nm process chips. The price should be [-] million US dollars about."
"It was originally planned to mass-produce 45nm process chips in [-]. Later, Taiji Electric sued Huaxin International for infringing a number of its patent rights. In the end, Huaxin International lost the lawsuit and paid a huge amount of compensation. The stock of Xinxin International has repaid the debt, so now Taikyu is also one of the shareholders of Huaxin International.”
"Didn't the 90-nanometer process lithography machine we bought from Asiman only cost more than 3000 million US dollars? This is more than twice as expensive as the 90-nanometer process lithography machine?" Ouyang Dehe was a little surprised Said.
"That's for sure. The difficulty is more than double. It's not the same level at all. It's normal for the price to be doubled." The scientific research expert said.
"EU∨ lithography machines need to be researched, but the existing technology cannot be wasted! The market for lithography machines is huge. High-end models must continue to be developed, and mid- and low-end models must be mass-produced as soon as possible.
If you want to develop high-end models, especially EU ∨ lithography machines, you need to invest a lot of money. Mass production of low-end lithography machines can generate blood and support the research and development of high-end models. This truth must be understood by everyone. . "
Ouyang Dehe instructed the senior leaders of Xingguang Technology Company who accompanied him.
"The company is already building a production line. It is estimated that the lithography machine with 90nm process technology will be mass-produced in May next year, and the lithography machine with a level above 1.3 microns will be mass-produced in March next year." General Manager of Xingguang Technology Company Xi Xingwei said.
"What about sales? Have you received an order from the client company? If it cannot be sold after mass production, it will put a lot of pressure on the funds and occupy the research and development funds." Ouyang Dehe asked again with concern.
"Now we have entered the era of intelligence. Chips are used in a wide range. The sales of lithography machines and chips are very good. When importing abroad, we often have to wait in line for two years. At present, some domestic enterprises have consulted us about photolithography. The production status of the engraving machine, and the intention to order, as long as there are goods, sales should not be a problem." Xi Xingwei said.
"On the basis of ensuring profitability, some discounts can be given on the price. After all, we are a new company. If the price is too high, I am worried that those domestic companies would rather pay high prices for imported products than our products. "Ouyang Dehe said.
"Moreover, in order to suppress our living space, foreign lithography machine manufacturers may also take the initiative to lower the sales price. We don't set the price lower now. If we lower the price after the foreign company lowers the price, It's a little passive."
"Our pricing must be lower than that of foreign brands, and it is mass production, and the production capacity in the early stage is also very low. If there is a price war, we will not have a big impact." Xi Xingwei said confidently.
"If they really lower the price regardless of the cost, we can also take the initiative to fight back against the other party and disrupt the international low-end lithography machine market. At that time, the biggest losses will only be foreign companies like them, not our Starlight Tech companies."
(End of this chapter)
Ever since Ouyang Dehe was invited by Li Xiao's family to attend a charity dinner in the capital, he made up his mind to learn to speak fluent English.
After these years of hard work, not only he can speak fluent English, but Xi Weixing can also speak fluent English, so there is no problem in communicating with the representative of Helan Asman Company, and there is no need for someone to translate .
"The boss is here!" Tan Zhengdao quickly saluted Ouyang Dehe and said.
"You have done a good job. Not everyone can enter the R&D center." Ouyang Dehe nodded and said to Tan Zhengdao with a smile on his face.
"Who are you? Am I wrong?" Representative Asman said arrogantly.
"Then you don't need to help us any more in the future. We Huaxia people can find a way to solve the difficulties by ourselves. We don't need to buy your lithography machines. Anyway, you won't sell us the lithography machines that we Huaxia people want. We can manufacture the lithography machine you want to sell to us." Ouyang Dehe said bluntly.
At this time, the top management of Xingguang Technology Company had already walked out of the R&D center to welcome their boss Ouyang Dehe.
After Ouyang Dehe finished speaking, he shook hands with the company executives who came to greet him, and congratulated them for finally developing a lithography machine that can meet the 45nm process technology to manufacture chips.
After that, accompanied by everyone, a group of people walked directly into the R&D center and came to the newly developed lithography machine.
"For lithography machine technology, 90nm is a technological step, 45nm is a technological step, and 22nm is a technological step... It is not difficult to upgrade 90nm technology to 65nm, but 45nm technology requires It is much more difficult than 65nm, and it is not a level of technology." An expert from the R&D center explained to Ouyang Dehe.
"Between 45nm process technology and 22nm process technology, there are at least 40nm process technology, 32nm process technology, and 28nm process technology. Can this lithography machine also meet the chip production requirements of these process technologies?" Ouyang Dehe asked with concern.
"Theoretically, it is completely achievable, but it still needs technical upgrades, and it is not possible to meet the technical requirements now." The scientific research expert explained with a smile.
"Is it difficult?" Ouyang Dehe asked again.
"It's not very difficult, right? If you just upgrade on the original basis and turn it into a photolithography machine that can process 40-nanometer process chips, it will take up to a month." The scientific research expert explained.
"However, it will take at least half a year to re-produce a lithography machine capable of processing 40nm process chips."
"As for the lithography machine with 32nm technology, it will take longer."
"I see." Ouyang Dehe nodded and said.
"This is a DUV immersion lithography machine with a 193nm light source immersion system. Liquid is introduced into the optical lens and silicon wafer as a medium. Under the conditions of the original light source and lens, the etching accuracy can be significantly improved. The technology has It has reached the technical level of Asman, except for the EUV lithography machine, and can basically meet the technical requirements of global chip companies." The scientific research expert said proudly.
"Science and technology are constantly improving, and the current requirements can be met temporarily, but in the future, 10nm, 7nm, 5nm, and even 1nm process technology will be launched, so what should we do?"
"So the research and development work cannot stop. Takyu Electric is now preparing to mass-produce the 22nm process technology. Compared with this, we are still several steps behind others!" Ouyang Dehe said seriously.
"Yes, the boss is right, it's just that the exposure technology that requires extremely deep ultraviolet rays, that is, the EUV lithography machine technology. At present, Asman Company in Helan is only at the stage of testing prototypes and wants to reach mass production. It will take at least a few years to break through the ultra-deep ultraviolet light exposure technology." The R&D expert explained hastily.
"Because of this, we still have time to catch up with each other! Do we have to wait for the other party to develop it first before we can develop it later? Are we going to be a few levels behind the other party forever?"
Under Ouyang Dehe's continuous questioning, the scientific research experts explaining it inevitably became a little embarrassed. They really didn't know how to refute the boss!Besides, the boss did not say anything wrong.
"How much does it cost to order such a 45nm lithography machine from Asi Slow?"
Ouyang Dehe didn't continue the topic just now, for fear of hurting everyone's morale.
"In 45, Huaxin International ordered a DUV immersion lithography machine from Asman in Helan, which can meet the production requirements of 200nm process chips. The price should be [-] million US dollars about."
"It was originally planned to mass-produce 45nm process chips in [-]. Later, Taiji Electric sued Huaxin International for infringing a number of its patent rights. In the end, Huaxin International lost the lawsuit and paid a huge amount of compensation. The stock of Xinxin International has repaid the debt, so now Taikyu is also one of the shareholders of Huaxin International.”
"Didn't the 90-nanometer process lithography machine we bought from Asiman only cost more than 3000 million US dollars? This is more than twice as expensive as the 90-nanometer process lithography machine?" Ouyang Dehe was a little surprised Said.
"That's for sure. The difficulty is more than double. It's not the same level at all. It's normal for the price to be doubled." The scientific research expert said.
"EU∨ lithography machines need to be researched, but the existing technology cannot be wasted! The market for lithography machines is huge. High-end models must continue to be developed, and mid- and low-end models must be mass-produced as soon as possible.
If you want to develop high-end models, especially EU ∨ lithography machines, you need to invest a lot of money. Mass production of low-end lithography machines can generate blood and support the research and development of high-end models. This truth must be understood by everyone. . "
Ouyang Dehe instructed the senior leaders of Xingguang Technology Company who accompanied him.
"The company is already building a production line. It is estimated that the lithography machine with 90nm process technology will be mass-produced in May next year, and the lithography machine with a level above 1.3 microns will be mass-produced in March next year." General Manager of Xingguang Technology Company Xi Xingwei said.
"What about sales? Have you received an order from the client company? If it cannot be sold after mass production, it will put a lot of pressure on the funds and occupy the research and development funds." Ouyang Dehe asked again with concern.
"Now we have entered the era of intelligence. Chips are used in a wide range. The sales of lithography machines and chips are very good. When importing abroad, we often have to wait in line for two years. At present, some domestic enterprises have consulted us about photolithography. The production status of the engraving machine, and the intention to order, as long as there are goods, sales should not be a problem." Xi Xingwei said.
"On the basis of ensuring profitability, some discounts can be given on the price. After all, we are a new company. If the price is too high, I am worried that those domestic companies would rather pay high prices for imported products than our products. "Ouyang Dehe said.
"Moreover, in order to suppress our living space, foreign lithography machine manufacturers may also take the initiative to lower the sales price. We don't set the price lower now. If we lower the price after the foreign company lowers the price, It's a little passive."
"Our pricing must be lower than that of foreign brands, and it is mass production, and the production capacity in the early stage is also very low. If there is a price war, we will not have a big impact." Xi Xingwei said confidently.
"If they really lower the price regardless of the cost, we can also take the initiative to fight back against the other party and disrupt the international low-end lithography machine market. At that time, the biggest losses will only be foreign companies like them, not our Starlight Tech companies."
(End of this chapter)
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