Neiji and Tenten
Chapter 84 Discussion on the Number of Ninjas in Konoha Village
Because of the needs of the later plot.
I am here to open a single chapter on how many ninjas there are in Konoha Village and the other four major ninja villages, how many ninjas are there in other small countries, and the respective proportions of ninjas among the top ninja, middle ninja, and low ninja. .
If you are not interested in these issues, you can also skip it without affecting the subsequent development of the plot.
I want to emphasize one point, because there is not a clear statement even in the original Naruto for a lot of data, so I can only make a reasonable guess based on the general background.
In response to these issues, let me first talk about my own views. If you have different opinions, please leave a message to discuss!
The first question to discuss: How many ninjas are there in Konoha Village.
There are four most mainstream channels for cultivating ninjas in Konoha Village: the first is the family’s internal school; the second is the ninja school; the third is the cultivation of forces or organizations secretly; the fourth is the inheritance of folk masters and apprentices;
[-]. Let’s first talk about the family’s internal school.
Here I would like to emphasize the difference between the two terms family and family. A family is often just immediate family members (namely parents, children, grandparents, etc.), with a maximum of a dozen people, or as few as three or four people. This is called a family.
A family includes all families with the same surname gathered together. In this way, a small family has dozens or hundreds of people, a medium family has hundreds of people, and a large wealthy family often has one, two thousand or even more.
When the ninja world was in the Warring States period, wars were waged by families as a group. Otherwise, a fight between a few or dozens of people would be regarded as a fight at best, not a war.
Let me take the Hyuga clan as an example:
The Hyuga Clan is inherited from Otsutsuki Yu Village and has a history of nearly a thousand years. Not to mention all ninjas from generation to generation, but they are similar. After all, the blood is strong and the eye opening rate is extremely high.
Therefore, there is naturally a complete ninjutsu inheritance system and system within the family, and there are also departments and full-time personnel responsible for teaching the younger generations of the family.
As for the specific population of the Hyuga clan, it is not mentioned in the original book.
I can only make a rough guess here. The Hyuga Clan is a super big family. Before Konoha Village was established, the Hyuga Clan was similar to the Uzumaki Clan. It is not an exaggeration to say that it is an independent small country.
After all, the Uzumaki Clan, whose strength is similar to that of the Hyuga Clan, established their own country after occupying a place by themselves.If there are only dozens or hundreds of people in this country, it will be very funny.
Therefore, it can be speculated that the population of the Hyuga clan will definitely not be too small.
I estimate that the population of the Hyuga Clan is at least 1000 people. Let me calculate it here as 1200 people. At least 800 of them have practiced Chakra and opened their eyes!
The Uchiha clan before being wiped out should be about the same overall strength as the Hyuga clan, and even the Uchiha clan would be slightly stronger. After all, the Uchiha clan served as the guards of Konoha Village in World War II and World War III, and not all of them went to the battlefield.
Except for the Uchiha clan and the Hyuga clan, the two strongest families in Konoha.
The families in the second echelon are Sarutobi, Nara, Akimichi, Yamanaka, Inuzuka, and Yume.
Because of Sarutobi Hiruzen, the Sarutobi clan is definitely the strongest in the second echelon, and there is even a faint tendency to catch up with the first echelon.
Followed by the three families of pig, deer, and butterfly, and the two very distinctive families of Inuzuka and Younv.
On average, in the second echelon, each family has at least 600 clansmen, and the number of ninjas is estimated to be around 300.
Finally, there are families in the third echelon, which are Moonlight, Shiranui, Hatake, Shimura, Zhuanju, Mitomon and other families.
These families vary in size and are rarely mentioned in the original book, but they do exist, so I will take an average here. Each family has about 200 people (that is, 100 or [-] families). There are about [-] ninjas.
I estimate here that, excluding the extinct Uchiha and Mori Senju, the remaining family forces have about 3500 ninjas.
[-]. Konoha's ninja school graduate ninja:
The ninja school in Konoha Village was established by the second generation of Naruto, Senshou Himama.
Its main purposes are as follows:
First, break the status quo of closed inheritance among families, so that the children of each family can gather together and have more time and opportunities to communicate.
Second, provide an opportunity for civilians without family inheritance to become ninjas.
Third, instill the will of fire!
Every student who successfully graduates from the ninja school can have an independent ninja number.
For example, Neji's ninja school graduation number is 012587, which means that Neji is the 12587th Konoha ninja who graduated from the ninja school.
佐助的忍者学校毕业编号为012606、小樱的是012601,卡卡西的是009720、转寝小春是000256、三代火影是000261………
The third generation of Naruto is considered to be the first batch of students who graduated from the ninja school, and the number is more than 200, so this number is only the number of graduates from the ninja school, not the number of Konoha ninjas.
Taking the Fourth Ninja World War as the node: The ninja school took nearly 50 years to train about 1.3 ninjas!
Excluding those who died, there are about 5000 ninjas who have graduated from ninja schools (this data is purely estimated and used as a reference).
[-]. Individual cultivation of forces or organizations:
The most representative here is the darkness of Konoha - the root!
Most of the root members have not been trained by the ninja school. They are all cultivated by the root themselves. The reason is very simple. The ninja school teaches light, hope, unity, and fetters!
These are completely inconsistent with the philosophy of the roots. The roots only need to obey orders, and only need dedication and meticulous execution.
The root members come from many sources, including Konoha civilians, children of Konoha's major families, experimental subjects, orphans from other villages, etc. Among them, orphans are mostly, because they are easy to cultivate, and no one will hold them accountable if they die.
The root is responsible for monitoring the five major countries (including the Five Ninja Villages, Daming Mansion and other forces), assassination missions, disturbance behind enemy lines, etc.
Its nature is destined to have a lot of people at the root, otherwise it would not be able to do so many things at all.
I estimate that there are at least [-] ninjas in the root, most of whom are in the five major countries to collect information and monitor the enemy's movements.
[-]. Inheritance from master to apprentice:
Before the establishment of the ninja school, the members of the big family were trained within the family, but the common people did not have a family, and they relied on apprentices to learn ninjutsu.
When the Sage of the Six Paths spread ninjutsu, they also traveled around the ninja world, recruiting disciples everywhere to spread the secrets of ninjutsu practice.
This is the oldest form of communication.
Even after the ninja school was established, there are still many civilians in Konoha who learn ninjutsu by apprenticeship.
There is no way to count these people, but there must be 1-3 thousand people.
In this way, on the eve of the Fourth Ninja World War, the number of ninjas in Konoha Village was between 1 and 2.
……
Many of the above figures are estimates.
In the comics and anime, there are several pieces of information that have been clearly prompted as follows:
1. In the fourth ninja war, the ninja coalition (five major countries + iron country) has 8 people, and they will fight against [-] people.
Konoha is the top ninja village in the ninja world, and the number of coalition forces is definitely above the middle level, that is, at least 15000 people.
2. The third generation of Raikage was besieged to death by 10000 ninjas in Yanyin Village, which shows that there were at least [-] ninjas in Yanyin Village at that time.
The second issue to be discussed is the ratio between the upper ninja, middle ninja and lower ninja.
If Konoha Village counts 15000 ninjas, there will probably be how many low-level ninjas, how many middle-level ninjas, special high-level ninjas, high-level ninjas, and elite high-level ninjas.
A team of 4 people, then 1.5 people, there are 3750 teams, plus the elite team, Konoha has at least 7000 ninjas at the Chunin level or above.
For [-] ninjas, the strength of more than [-] chunin is not too much. There are two reasons. Those who are in the same class as Naruto eventually become zhongnin, and Kai's father Matt Dai has never passed the zhongnin exam. , was made fun of by many people, who would make fun of it if it was difficult to pass.
This has fully demonstrated that it is easy to pass the Zhongnin Exam after a certain age, otherwise Matt Dai would never be ridiculed as a thousand-year-old ninja.
And among the 7000 ninjas who are more than Chunin, how many are special Jnin, how many are Jnin, and how many are elite Jnin?
There are special jnin and jnin above zhongnin.
First, let’s take a look at the Special Jnin. The Special Jnin is different from the Almighty Jnin. They have some special skills, such as education, research and development, reconnaissance, sealing and other special skills. Their strength is between Chunin and Jonin.
We can understand it this way, there are two options for career development after becoming a chunin, becoming a jounin or a special jounin.
Jnin is more difficult and needs to be developed in an all-round way, especially Jnin is easier. After all, it only needs to develop a specialty.
Therefore, after long-term engagement in a certain job, the more outstanding ones will be selected as special jnin. There are 7000 cunin and above ranks. Chunin becomes special jnin and jnin. We count one-third of the pass rate .
That is to say, there are 4667 Zhongnin, and there are 2333 Jnin plus Jnin.
Among them, the ratio of special jnin and jnin is 3:1, that is, among the 2333 people, there is a high probability that 1749 people are special jnin and there are 583 jnin.
In summary, I guess that Konoha Village had ninjas during the Fourth World War as follows:
Total number of ninjas: 15000
Undermining: 8000 people
Chunin: 4667 people
Special Jonin: 1749 people
Jonin: 583 people
The rest of the four countries are slightly lower than Konoha, but the difference will not be too much!
Because there is no exact data in the original book, most of the above data are estimates, please don't be too serious, we are discussing approximate data!
If you have different opinions, please leave a message to discuss!
I am here to open a single chapter on how many ninjas there are in Konoha Village and the other four major ninja villages, how many ninjas are there in other small countries, and the respective proportions of ninjas among the top ninja, middle ninja, and low ninja. .
If you are not interested in these issues, you can also skip it without affecting the subsequent development of the plot.
I want to emphasize one point, because there is not a clear statement even in the original Naruto for a lot of data, so I can only make a reasonable guess based on the general background.
In response to these issues, let me first talk about my own views. If you have different opinions, please leave a message to discuss!
The first question to discuss: How many ninjas are there in Konoha Village.
There are four most mainstream channels for cultivating ninjas in Konoha Village: the first is the family’s internal school; the second is the ninja school; the third is the cultivation of forces or organizations secretly; the fourth is the inheritance of folk masters and apprentices;
[-]. Let’s first talk about the family’s internal school.
Here I would like to emphasize the difference between the two terms family and family. A family is often just immediate family members (namely parents, children, grandparents, etc.), with a maximum of a dozen people, or as few as three or four people. This is called a family.
A family includes all families with the same surname gathered together. In this way, a small family has dozens or hundreds of people, a medium family has hundreds of people, and a large wealthy family often has one, two thousand or even more.
When the ninja world was in the Warring States period, wars were waged by families as a group. Otherwise, a fight between a few or dozens of people would be regarded as a fight at best, not a war.
Let me take the Hyuga clan as an example:
The Hyuga Clan is inherited from Otsutsuki Yu Village and has a history of nearly a thousand years. Not to mention all ninjas from generation to generation, but they are similar. After all, the blood is strong and the eye opening rate is extremely high.
Therefore, there is naturally a complete ninjutsu inheritance system and system within the family, and there are also departments and full-time personnel responsible for teaching the younger generations of the family.
As for the specific population of the Hyuga clan, it is not mentioned in the original book.
I can only make a rough guess here. The Hyuga Clan is a super big family. Before Konoha Village was established, the Hyuga Clan was similar to the Uzumaki Clan. It is not an exaggeration to say that it is an independent small country.
After all, the Uzumaki Clan, whose strength is similar to that of the Hyuga Clan, established their own country after occupying a place by themselves.If there are only dozens or hundreds of people in this country, it will be very funny.
Therefore, it can be speculated that the population of the Hyuga clan will definitely not be too small.
I estimate that the population of the Hyuga Clan is at least 1000 people. Let me calculate it here as 1200 people. At least 800 of them have practiced Chakra and opened their eyes!
The Uchiha clan before being wiped out should be about the same overall strength as the Hyuga clan, and even the Uchiha clan would be slightly stronger. After all, the Uchiha clan served as the guards of Konoha Village in World War II and World War III, and not all of them went to the battlefield.
Except for the Uchiha clan and the Hyuga clan, the two strongest families in Konoha.
The families in the second echelon are Sarutobi, Nara, Akimichi, Yamanaka, Inuzuka, and Yume.
Because of Sarutobi Hiruzen, the Sarutobi clan is definitely the strongest in the second echelon, and there is even a faint tendency to catch up with the first echelon.
Followed by the three families of pig, deer, and butterfly, and the two very distinctive families of Inuzuka and Younv.
On average, in the second echelon, each family has at least 600 clansmen, and the number of ninjas is estimated to be around 300.
Finally, there are families in the third echelon, which are Moonlight, Shiranui, Hatake, Shimura, Zhuanju, Mitomon and other families.
These families vary in size and are rarely mentioned in the original book, but they do exist, so I will take an average here. Each family has about 200 people (that is, 100 or [-] families). There are about [-] ninjas.
I estimate here that, excluding the extinct Uchiha and Mori Senju, the remaining family forces have about 3500 ninjas.
[-]. Konoha's ninja school graduate ninja:
The ninja school in Konoha Village was established by the second generation of Naruto, Senshou Himama.
Its main purposes are as follows:
First, break the status quo of closed inheritance among families, so that the children of each family can gather together and have more time and opportunities to communicate.
Second, provide an opportunity for civilians without family inheritance to become ninjas.
Third, instill the will of fire!
Every student who successfully graduates from the ninja school can have an independent ninja number.
For example, Neji's ninja school graduation number is 012587, which means that Neji is the 12587th Konoha ninja who graduated from the ninja school.
佐助的忍者学校毕业编号为012606、小樱的是012601,卡卡西的是009720、转寝小春是000256、三代火影是000261………
The third generation of Naruto is considered to be the first batch of students who graduated from the ninja school, and the number is more than 200, so this number is only the number of graduates from the ninja school, not the number of Konoha ninjas.
Taking the Fourth Ninja World War as the node: The ninja school took nearly 50 years to train about 1.3 ninjas!
Excluding those who died, there are about 5000 ninjas who have graduated from ninja schools (this data is purely estimated and used as a reference).
[-]. Individual cultivation of forces or organizations:
The most representative here is the darkness of Konoha - the root!
Most of the root members have not been trained by the ninja school. They are all cultivated by the root themselves. The reason is very simple. The ninja school teaches light, hope, unity, and fetters!
These are completely inconsistent with the philosophy of the roots. The roots only need to obey orders, and only need dedication and meticulous execution.
The root members come from many sources, including Konoha civilians, children of Konoha's major families, experimental subjects, orphans from other villages, etc. Among them, orphans are mostly, because they are easy to cultivate, and no one will hold them accountable if they die.
The root is responsible for monitoring the five major countries (including the Five Ninja Villages, Daming Mansion and other forces), assassination missions, disturbance behind enemy lines, etc.
Its nature is destined to have a lot of people at the root, otherwise it would not be able to do so many things at all.
I estimate that there are at least [-] ninjas in the root, most of whom are in the five major countries to collect information and monitor the enemy's movements.
[-]. Inheritance from master to apprentice:
Before the establishment of the ninja school, the members of the big family were trained within the family, but the common people did not have a family, and they relied on apprentices to learn ninjutsu.
When the Sage of the Six Paths spread ninjutsu, they also traveled around the ninja world, recruiting disciples everywhere to spread the secrets of ninjutsu practice.
This is the oldest form of communication.
Even after the ninja school was established, there are still many civilians in Konoha who learn ninjutsu by apprenticeship.
There is no way to count these people, but there must be 1-3 thousand people.
In this way, on the eve of the Fourth Ninja World War, the number of ninjas in Konoha Village was between 1 and 2.
……
Many of the above figures are estimates.
In the comics and anime, there are several pieces of information that have been clearly prompted as follows:
1. In the fourth ninja war, the ninja coalition (five major countries + iron country) has 8 people, and they will fight against [-] people.
Konoha is the top ninja village in the ninja world, and the number of coalition forces is definitely above the middle level, that is, at least 15000 people.
2. The third generation of Raikage was besieged to death by 10000 ninjas in Yanyin Village, which shows that there were at least [-] ninjas in Yanyin Village at that time.
The second issue to be discussed is the ratio between the upper ninja, middle ninja and lower ninja.
If Konoha Village counts 15000 ninjas, there will probably be how many low-level ninjas, how many middle-level ninjas, special high-level ninjas, high-level ninjas, and elite high-level ninjas.
A team of 4 people, then 1.5 people, there are 3750 teams, plus the elite team, Konoha has at least 7000 ninjas at the Chunin level or above.
For [-] ninjas, the strength of more than [-] chunin is not too much. There are two reasons. Those who are in the same class as Naruto eventually become zhongnin, and Kai's father Matt Dai has never passed the zhongnin exam. , was made fun of by many people, who would make fun of it if it was difficult to pass.
This has fully demonstrated that it is easy to pass the Zhongnin Exam after a certain age, otherwise Matt Dai would never be ridiculed as a thousand-year-old ninja.
And among the 7000 ninjas who are more than Chunin, how many are special Jnin, how many are Jnin, and how many are elite Jnin?
There are special jnin and jnin above zhongnin.
First, let’s take a look at the Special Jnin. The Special Jnin is different from the Almighty Jnin. They have some special skills, such as education, research and development, reconnaissance, sealing and other special skills. Their strength is between Chunin and Jonin.
We can understand it this way, there are two options for career development after becoming a chunin, becoming a jounin or a special jounin.
Jnin is more difficult and needs to be developed in an all-round way, especially Jnin is easier. After all, it only needs to develop a specialty.
Therefore, after long-term engagement in a certain job, the more outstanding ones will be selected as special jnin. There are 7000 cunin and above ranks. Chunin becomes special jnin and jnin. We count one-third of the pass rate .
That is to say, there are 4667 Zhongnin, and there are 2333 Jnin plus Jnin.
Among them, the ratio of special jnin and jnin is 3:1, that is, among the 2333 people, there is a high probability that 1749 people are special jnin and there are 583 jnin.
In summary, I guess that Konoha Village had ninjas during the Fourth World War as follows:
Total number of ninjas: 15000
Undermining: 8000 people
Chunin: 4667 people
Special Jonin: 1749 people
Jonin: 583 people
The rest of the four countries are slightly lower than Konoha, but the difference will not be too much!
Because there is no exact data in the original book, most of the above data are estimates, please don't be too serious, we are discussing approximate data!
If you have different opinions, please leave a message to discuss!
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