Infinite Begins with Giants

Chapter 457 Dialogue
Ren's words made Arturia look thoughtful, and it was not that she could not accept other people's opinions.

It's just that she has so far firmly believed that her concept of "the king is not a man" is correct, but the demise of Britain is always a deep scar, which inevitably makes her shaken and confused.

"So, Caster, do you think the king is not alone?"

Saber looked at Wuming, of course she would not easily deny her consistent philosophy.

Ren shook his head and closed the laptop:

"I didn't say that. There are many lonely kings in history. They didn't choose to blend in with the crowd."

"Then what do you mean by those words just now?" Dumb Mao Wang stared blankly and asked back with a frown.

"Lonely kings, or lonely kings are actually very common. No one stipulates that kings should mingle with the people or courtiers, but this does not mean that they do not understand people's hearts.

Whether it is a tyrant or a virtuous king, imperial mind art is a basic skill.

Knowing how to figure out the thoughts of courtiers, being able to distinguish loyalty from traitors, and properly handling various interests of the country can bring the kingly way to the extreme. "

While Ren was narrating, he began to clean up the leftovers on the table, and Saber also offered to help when he saw this.

The two walked towards the kitchen together with the dishes, and when they arrived, Ren began to wash the dishes, while Saber frowned, standing aside in deep thought.

"King of Knights, I want to know, have you tried to stand in the perspective of others and try to figure out what others are thinking?

For example, what are Lancelot, Tristan, Guinevere, and even Mordred thinking in their hearts? "

Ren put away the cleaned dishes one by one, and said unhurriedly.

It's quite interesting to say that, including the little boy Mo, the knights of the round table are actually king chefs.

But in the end, many people still parted ways with King Dumao, and even became enemies. In fact, it was not that they had any objections to her.

It's just that some people don't agree with her ideas, or some people don't want her to continue like this, and even hope that she can give up and make herself feel better.

Saber's face was a little dazed, and after a while, she said in a low tone:
"Correct ideas, correct rule... plus the king himself dedicates everything to the country, this is the way to govern the country, I... think so."

"However, King of Knights, you must know that human beings are a kind of strange creatures. It is not because your behavior and ideas are very correct that you can guide them."

"What are you talking about? The right idea, the right way...why can't you guide the people?!" Saber asked with a look of astonishment, "Since everything is correct! The country should have long-term stability and prosperity, right?"

Ren shook his head slightly, but did not answer for a while. After washing the dishes, he took off his apron.

He greeted Saber, and the two servants walked to the balcony of the castle together.

Call ~
The wind at night was a bit cool, blowing the hair of the two of them, everything was silent, only the bright moonlight poured down, dyeing everything with a layer of silver brilliance.

Ren looked up at the stars in the sky, smiled and said:

"Knight King, you overestimate the kindness or positive part of people, and you underestimate the ugly or dark part of human nature too much.

There is essentially no difference between the two.

Human beings are the kind of people who know that one thing or some things are wrong, but because of interests, grievances, beliefs, viciousness... they will still repeat mistakes. "

Saber frowned, and instinctively wanted to refute, but Ren raised his hand to stop her. He projected two chairs and invited her to sit down together.

With Erlang's legs crossed, Ren said indifferently:

"In this day and age, many ideas are so correct that people can't fault them, but many things are still a mess.

Everyone knows the importance of peace, but this does not prevent arms companies and capitalists from fanning the flames and provoking wars in order to sell guns and ammunition.

Everyone knows the truth that everyone is equal, but this does not prevent everyone from discriminating against each other in their hearts.Wealth and poverty in society cause discrimination, skin color causes discrimination, gender causes discrimination...

People all know to take care of the environment, but this doesn't stop me from thinking that the trash can is too far away from me, so I don't bother to go there and just throw it away.We also want to protect wild animals, but is the meat not delicious?

Human beings are the kind of people who know what is right, but don't mind being 'wrong' when they actually choose.

From ancient times to the present, what guides and drives people is not right or wrong at all!But desire!Then the history is written by the victors who won and led more people than the losers. "

Saber's eyes widened slowly, and she looked at Ren angrily, but she didn't know what to say for a moment.

Ren didn't care about her anger, and asked:
"Besides you, there are two other kings in this Holy Grail War, King Iskandar the Conqueror and Gilgamesh the King of Heroes. From your point of view, are they tyrants?"

"Of course!" Saber said bluntly.

"I also think they belong to tyrants, but it is undeniable that they are all kings praised by the world, equally great.

What about tyrants?Also recognized and worshiped by the world, their deeds are still being circulated, which is fascinating. "

Saber's lips moved slightly, but she didn't refute, but her expression was slightly lonely. Even if she didn't approve of their ideas, she couldn't deny that they were famous kings.

"Take Iskandar the Conqueror as an example. He is the lord of the overlord. He invaded everywhere, provoked wars, and caused countless people to lose their lives and leave their homes.

But more and more people followed his victorious footsteps.

What about plundering, what about trampling, following him, money, beautiful women, power and territory... can all be in his pocket.

There is no justice in these actions, but they are equally attractive to people, and in the end they can leave a name in history, making countless heroes fascinated by it..."

The corner of Ren's mouth raised, and he narrated slowly.

A few mornings ago, he met the emperor in a bookstore, and the other party said he would recruit him, and the treatment was to make him the vice president of the United States and conquer the world together.

Didn't the emperor know how much casualties would be caused by conquering the world?But he still has no intention of giving up.

To put it bluntly, if the German head of state had won World War II, he would have been the supreme king of the world, and history books would probably praise him to the sky.

This is a "great feat" to unify the world.

As for how cruel the means are, how much evil he has done, and how much blood he has stained, what is it in front of this unique great cause?
"Saber, you should understand that those guys you don't like can also make great achievements with ideas you think are wrong. Who can deny the greatness of Alexander the Great and the Macedonian Empire?"

Saber stood up involuntarily, staring at the sky in a daze: "I can't do it... to be a tyrant."

Didn't she never think about it, if she trampled on Britain with domineering, could it lead to a better ending in the end?

"Knight King, I didn't tell you to become a tyrant, nor did I deny your kingship, I just wanted to remind you.

Don't ignore the complexity of the human heart and the duality of desires.

There is no difference between being too lofty and idealistic and being too cruel and cold-blooded, and people will end up unbearable.

Needless to say the latter, the former is the limit that most people cannot reach. Saints and the way of sages can be respected and admired, but it is impossible to ask the general public to follow suit. "

Master Ren jumped onto the city wall. He folded his arms and stood in the cold wind, which blew his white hair.

King Dumao stared at him blankly, without saying a word.

He lowered his head and looked down at King Dumao, with an erratic voice:

"Girl, let me tell you something.

A true ruler cannot make people live in too much pain and despair, and they will resist if they cannot survive.

Of course, we can't let them live too comfortably and happily.

It is to let people live a relatively hard life, but they can persevere and have a little hope for the future.

This state is the best.

On the surface, guide the hearts of the people with relatively correct but compromised ideas, and secretly suppress abnormal movements with absolute violence, so that the rule can last longer.

And no matter what method you use, you must understand people's hearts, that is, understand what people think.Not only the "positive" of beauty, kindness and justice needs to be eulogized loudly, but also the "negative" of greed, evil and darkness must be taken care of secretly.

Don't ignore the latter, it holds a lot of weight in people's hearts.

Of course, I'm not a king, I'm just talking on paper, don't take it to heart, it's just my humble opinion. "

Saber's body trembled, she gritted her teeth and remained silent for a while.

Then she raised her head slowly, staring at him with those green eyes, she said word by word:

"You bastard, you're really annoying!"

"I think so too, you guy, you're really awkward!"

Ren also stared at her with deep eyes.

Saber's beautiful eyes were burning with anger, and she felt very angry about Ren's words, and wanted to slash him with a sword.

But he had to admit in his heart that he wasn't talking nonsense.

She had never considered it before, and in her opinion—"wrong" or "not so correct" ideas can actually unite people's hearts and lead people, which is why tyrants can make great achievements.

But she doesn't want to buy into those views.

Saber and Renn looked at each other, the two sides refused to give in to each other, the atmosphere was even a bit tense, the conflict of ideas or values ​​made them still unable to recognize each other.

This is not something that can be solved with a single meal.

Ren is not a "partner of justice" Emiya Shaoxia, some of his ideas and arguments made it difficult for Artoria to accept.

He is not as extreme and hostile as before, but he is a realist, while Du Mao Wang is an idealist, but she is actually quite extreme.

"Caster, you, who were not a hero, gave up your ideals, and now you are a hero or a villain?"

King Dumao had a serious expression on his face, and his eyes were sharp.

She recognizes and admires "Wu Ming" who sacrificed himself to save others, and thinks he is noble.

Therefore, she felt an unspeakable anger towards him who chose to give up at this moment. She wanted to ask this question a long time ago, but she just chose to hold back.

"A hero? A villain? I don't know too well, but it must not be a hero." Ren said with a smile, not worried about offending her at all.

From the very beginning, he had no intention of attacking Du Mao Wang, and she was not his type, and it would be more or less the same if she was replaced by "Gun Dumb".

Compared with girls, Yujie is more attractive.

Now she is a little out of control, which actually proves that his words have had a considerable impact on her.

As long as the goal is achieved, he doesn't care if it will make her angry.

"Caster, I actually really want to fight with you!" Dumb Mao Wang snorted coldly when he heard this, his attitude became very tough.

She didn't want to kill her allies. After the contract was signed, Wu Ming gave up making a wish with the Holy Grail, so she was no longer her enemy.

But she still hopes to use her sword to teach him a lesson.

Just as Ryan tried to influence her, she also wanted him to return to the hero's posture instead of choosing to give up.

Ren stood on the city wall with his hands behind his hands, and the cold wind made his red coat grin. He said in a clear voice:

"No problem, I really want to fight you too, but after I kill Lancer and you return to your prime."

"You're so conceited, do you think I'm not your opponent now?" Artoria was a little unconvinced.

She can feel the strength of the other party, but she is not afraid.

"Sorry, that's the truth."

Ren said calmly, without waiting for Saber to say anything, he jumped up from the city wall and jumped into the forest.

How can a man give up the whole forest for a tree.

Therefore, he gave up on King Mao, and went to harm this forest. After a few days, the area of ​​this forest may be greatly reduced.

"Caster, just wait, I will definitely teach you a lesson!" Saber watched him disappear, and shouted.

"Okay, cute little girl, remember to maintain this fighting spirit, otherwise it will be too boring to educate you."

The wind brought Ren's very flat words, which made Arturia on the castle tremble with anger, and the guy said she was a little girl.

Beat him up, beat him up viciously!
She didn't hate him, and Wuming didn't do anything that made her feel unbearable, but that guy's mouth was too poisonous, and he provoked her repeatedly, so he really deserved a beating.

In any case, both of them decided that they would have a competition in the future.

.........

An hour later, Emiya Kiritsugu came back, he came to the room where Kariya Matou was placed, and knocked on the door.

squeak~
The door was opened, and Kariya invited him in, then picked up the book of hypocrites on the table, and handed it to the other party.

After Kiritsugu took over, he didn't leave directly:

"Matou Kariya, you are the master, but you give up the dominance to your servants, why?"

"No reason, I left Fuyuki City that day, and after I calmed down and thought about it, I realized that if it wasn't for Wuming, I would have died, and my death was worthless."

Kariya laughed at himself, of course he knew that Wu Ming was using him, but this did not prevent him from being grateful to the other party for saving his life, even though the process was not very pleasant.

"Out of gratitude?" Father Kiritsugu lit a cigarette.

Kariya sat on the chair and shook his head:

"I'm not a good decision maker. When I first participated in the Holy Grail War, I didn't even figure out who my enemy was."

He himself found it incredible that he didn't realize that the old bug was the root of the problem.

Father Kiritsugu asked in a flat tone: "Do you trust him?"

"At least make sure that he won't harm me, that's enough." Kariya suddenly laughed, looked at Father Kiritsugu and said, "You know, I've made sure of one thing after seeing you."

"Oh, what's the matter?" Father Kiritsugu asked.

"Wu Ming is right. You guys are all monsters. I, an ordinary person like me, want to compete with you for the Holy Grail. I am beyond my control."

Father Kiritsugu shook his cigarette when he heard the words, and remained silent.

Matou Kariya picked up the glass full of red wine on the table, took a sip, then continued with a smile:

"If someone invited me, I would definitely refuse to come back to continue fighting the Holy Grail War, and even if I did, I'm afraid I'd regret it soon.

As Wu Ming said, from the very beginning, I shouldn't be involved in this matter. "

"But now that you're here, why do you have so much confidence in him?" Father Kiritsugu put down his cigarette and stared at him.

"You will know tomorrow night." After drinking a glass of red wine, Yan Ye said in a flat tone, "There is no need to test, although there is no history of his deeds in this world, he is indeed an 'unknown' person, but he... is very scary .”

"Thanks for reminding."

Father Kiritsugu glanced at Kariya, then walked out of the room.

(End of this chapter)