Is it not a galgame?

Chapter 147 51. What? !You want to compete too?

Qing Zhiyuan nodded in agreement and said, "Games and movies actually have a lot in common. In our industry, game producers are actually similar to animation supervisors or chief animation directors. The work is presented to everyone.”

"Until now, Qingsang, you haven't been invited to give a speech at any exhibition, and you have been besieged by a group of reporters, right?"

After Hayao Miyazaki asked, he seemed to feel that his question was inappropriate, and quickly added, "Sorry, I didn't mean to ridicule or accuse you, because I have tired of this kind of siege.

If this is an honor, then President Qing, you must have been qualified long ago.

But what I want to say is that maybe being too much attention is not a good thing.

That way, there is no way to be yourself and express what you want. "

"That's true. I understand your worries." Qing Zhiyuan said, "But as the president of a game company, I don't seem to have a similar experience. However, I have been asked questions about game production by reporters, for example, why do you want to do this? Do, what the game wants to express.

In the end, why did you choose such an ending, and how did pokeni think of making such a game.

To be honest, I have answered a lot of content many times, but I still have to take the trouble to respond every time. "

"Haha, I understand your feelings." Hayao Miyazaki laughed, "For those who make animation, what they want to express has already been put in it, and there is no extra second.

But in every interview, people always ask [what is the theme] of the work, and this alone is very annoying. "

Seeing his appearance, Qing Zhiyuan couldn't help being a little amused.

Hayao Miyazaki, who is in his 50s, behaves more like a child when talking about similar experiences.

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"Well. Whether it's movies, animations, or games, they are all tools to express ideas. Of course, from a commercial point of view, games will be closer to giving [players a novel experience] as the main purpose." Qing Zhiyuan said.

"Correct!"

Hayao Miyazaki immediately became excited when he heard Qing Zhiyuan's words, "Experience! A novel experience, this is a very pertinent evaluation.

I had never thought of such a form before. "

"In the game, in fact, we also need to use a lot of movie narrative techniques." Qing Zhiyuan responded with a smile, "Although to a certain extent, players have a very free operating space, but these spaces are designed by us. Well, and what events will be triggered when they go where is also carefully calculated.

There is a scene-based language in movies, and it is also applicable in games.

We will also ponder what kind of lens can best express and render the desired scene.

For example, in Diablo, when players walk into a dungeon and encounter such a tall monster..."

Qing Zhiyuan raised his hand, gesturing to the approximate height of the butcher.

Mainly to take care that Hayao Miyazaki didn't play the game.

Hayao Miyazaki also raised his head to take a look, and couldn't help being secretly surprised in his heart.

"In the game, we will first release the sound, such as roar, the roar of a terrible monster that suddenly appeared from a distance, and then let the monster enter the player's field of vision.

In fact, this is a lens rendering language. "

When Qing Zhiyuan said this, he couldn't help frowning.

Mainly due to the constraints of the times, many things cannot be displayed.

Otherwise, wait another ten years or so, and the sub-camera in the game should not be too powerful.

Take "God of War" as an example, the producer himself is a film director, and he draws the whole game's sub-cameras by himself, so playing the game has an immersive feeling, like watching a blockbuster movie.

Even a spiral staircase can give you flowers from the top view.

After the era of 3D action games comes, the game is not just [give you a movie-like experience], but a more realistic simulation beyond the movie.

"Huh? Is it so interesting?"

Hayao Miyazaki's eyes were shining, and he already had a picture in his mind.

It's just that what he imagined was the storyboard in the cartoon, which is still somewhat different from the actual game content of Diablo.

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"The biggest difference between games and animated movies should be active and passive." Qing Zhiyuan said, "As for games, players take the initiative to experience, and the fate of characters, life and death are all controlled by themselves. There is also a kind of physical Immersive sense of substitution.

As for animation, you can sit in a movie theater and enjoy it quietly. At this time, it is similar to reading a novel and following the protagonist of the story on a unique journey.

Actually, I think animation is more difficult, because the director can't waste every second, just grabbing the hearts of the players.

The requirements of this link in the game will be relatively weaker. "

"I see." Hayao Miyazaki nodded seriously, thoughtfully.

"However, the production of games may be more complicated than animation movies." Qing Zhiyuan pondered and said, "In animation, the story is as long as it is coherent, how many pictures are there per second, and the information displayed in these pictures is everything.

It is equivalent to players sitting on a roller coaster, and the vehicle has a predetermined trajectory and direction.

But in the game, players have a higher degree of freedom, and we have to consider more things when we do it.

For example, in a cartoon, if the protagonist jumps into the haystack to catch a rabbit, then only this part needs to be drawn.

But in the game, we not only have to design the rabbit, but also consider the surrounding environment. It is impossible to say that everything around is empty except for this rabbit nest.

There must be a tree next to it, and there must be grass under the tree. If you accidentally chase it too far, you may encounter goblins or something. "

Hearing this, Miyazaki laughed out loud.

"Haha... so interesting."

"Yes, the animation shows what we want to show the audience, and we won't draw it for a second." Hayao Miyazaki said seriously, "Maybe outside this shot, is there a mountain or a river? None of it matters, because those aren't in this storyboard.

Looking at it this way, your game creation is indeed more complicated, which is equivalent to creating a world. "

is not that right?

Qing Zhiyuan thought, the game of the future is to create the world.

To put it bluntly, game producers are more like playing the role of God than movie directors.

God does not need to prescribe specific behaviors and specific stories of people, as long as the world is created and given enough rich elements.

Of course, these concepts are too advanced for the current game industry.

The open world simply cannot be supported by the current hardware level.

But in fact, Pokeni's Pokémon now has a faint feeling of an open world.

It's just that the world is very, very small, and the performance of many things is slightly simpler.

……

The chat between the two became more and more in-depth, and they talked about the differences between games and animations, as well as the fun of making animations and games.

The people in the director's team looked at the old and the young talking in front of them, as if they were seeing friends they had known for a long time, and they communicated so naturally.

So he couldn't help being secretly surprised.

At first, everyone disagreed, thinking that it was a mistake for Hayao Miyazaki to invite Qing Zhiyuan to be the interview guest of "Porco Rosso".

Although Pokeni seems to be gaining momentum recently, it is a small company after all, and Qing Zhiyuan has not done anything earth-shattering.

The popularity of the main galgame was not particularly good two years ago.

What is the use of inviting such a person?

In any case, it should be regarded as a fair dialogue by inviting a master like Shigeru Miyamoto?
After a while, Hayao Miyazaki had another conversation with director Akira Kurosawa, which was the pinnacle conversation in everyone's mind, a collision of ideas between a master in one field and a master in another field.

Only in this way can there be gimmicks, only the volume of broadcasts, and good-looking news writing.

But what the hell is Qing Zhiyuan?

Not only is he not well-known, but he is also too young.

When these two people are put together, they are not in the same position at all, and the people who make the show have to sweat for it.

After all, the status is unequal and the age is unequal, so it is easy to have a one-sided situation——

For example, Qing Zhiyuan was completely overwhelmed by Hayao Miyazaki during the chat, and he was speechless when asked by the other party, and he could only be a respondent.

That would be so sad.

And there is another point that everyone is most worried about. If this guy talks about galgame or even blue during the interview, it will be too shocking.

Fortunately, none of this happened.

Qing Zhiyuan's questions and answers can be said to be quite professional, and at the same time have a strong affinity, and the explanations are also simple and simple, even laymen who have never played games can understand.

The director pondered for a long time, and suddenly came to his senses——

President Qing seems to be teaching people [how to be a god]!

It's not the kind of joke, but I really feel "God". Isn't this the way God created the world?
Of course, it seems to be a bit off topic now, and it has nothing to do with the red pig itself.

But the content of their conversation can arouse people's interest, so that everyone can't help but listen carefully.

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Mom!
The members of the filming crew who finally realized this fact widened their eyes and looked at each other in dismay.

There doesn't seem to be a one-sided situation.

Although everyone is not very optimistic about Qing Zhiyuan, but up to now, it has made people feel like a real [Master Dialogue].

Moreover, they all start from their respective fields, conducting artistic exchanges and collisions of ideas.

At the same time, in the process of looking for similarities and differences, I have a better understanding of the other party's work.

Not only that, but even awe of the other party.

Qing Zhiyuan didn't feel embarrassed to say it because the company made galgames, and he also described the development process of these games according to his own ideas, which made people awe-inspiring.

horrible……

This person seems to be only 28 years old.

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We chatted for almost an hour, and it was time to finish.

Hayao Miyazaki seemed to have more ideas, but under the urging of the director, he was preparing for the final exchange.

"Qing Sang, I think animation and games actually have one thing in common, that is, they are both a tool for expressing ideas and a cultural carrier."

Hayao Miyazaki said with a smile, "Whether it's animation or games, the entrance needs to be low and wide so that people can appreciate it.

But the export must be high.

This is the fate of us expressers.

Right? "

Ok?
Qing Zhiyuan's whole body trembled, as if hit by an electric current.

In fact, he had never seriously thought about this question before, regarding the so-called [meaning] or [thought] in the game.

If you have to say it, Super Mario should be the hottest game in the world, right?

What is its thought?
Simply fighting the dragon and saving the princess is nothing more than a fairy tale at best.

It is still far from Miyazaki's [depth] estimate.

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Even though he thought so, Qing Zhiyuan did not deny Miyazaki's words.

Quite the opposite.

He deeply feels that since the game is a cultural carrier, in addition to bringing joy to players, it can also produce some in-depth works, which is actually a more advanced way.

No, to be precise, in a more idealistic way.

Hayao Miyazaki is an idealist through and through, so he has higher requirements for animated films, and also hopes to incorporate and trigger thinking in the film, so that the audience can feel the depth of animation.

Whether it's Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Porco Rosso, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away...

Hayao Miyazaki is indeed doing this, seeking more thinking about the world, human beings, society and people's hearts in movies.

These are exactly what the current Qing Zhiyuan lacks.

If you don't say that Hayao Miyazaki is a master, the height of thought is here.

"Yeah." Qing Zhiyuan nodded seriously, "Thank you Mr. Miyazaki, I need to learn from you."

"no no."

Hayao Miyazaki waved his hands fearfully, "I want to learn from you."

He said with a smile, "I was opposed to making games from the beginning, and now, inspired by you, I am even a little eager to try. If games are used as a carrier, can I make what I want in my heart?
This is an interesting question and one worth pondering. "

……

The time is almost up.

This concludes today's conversation.

The director made an ok gesture, today's conversation was perfect, I guess tomorrow's headlines will have something to write.

After the filming team finished the finishing work, everyone began to move the machine to the van outside.

At the same time, Hayao Miyazaki stood in the middle of the room with a smile and said to Qing Zhiyuan:

"What I just said [to make a game] is not talking about scenes.

Ghibli is currently making several animations, and I supervise two of them. I am conceiving and preparing to reshape "Princess Mononoke". I really hope that while it becomes a movie, it can also meet you in the form of a game. Woolen cloth. "

ha? !

Qing Zhiyuan was taken aback.

Is Hayao Miyazaki going to make a game? !

Did I hear it right? !

Damn, the competitive pressure of the game is too great, right?

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