Great warships

After the visit, everyone got in the car. On the way, Tallikov couldn't hold back and started talking nonstop.

  "Mr. Qin, we heard that Tianjiao Airlines is going to develop a new high-bypass-ratio engine. Once this engine is developed, one engine should be able to produce 340 kN, right?"

  "Yes, we have such a plan." Qin Tao nodded.

  "Moreover, your Mingzhou Group also has the most advanced avionics technology." Tallikov said: "In this way, will it be possible to install your advanced aero engines and avionics equipment on our IL-96 passenger aircraft? Directly transform into a modern large passenger plane?”

  Currently, the IL-96 uses a four-engine layout. This used to be the mainstream layout of international civil aviation airliners, but it is no longer popular.

  Today's passenger aircraft have evolved to a dual-engine structure. Even such large dual-aisle passenger aircraft will use a dual-engine structure. The biggest advantage of this is to save money.

  In the procurement process, two engines are definitely more expensive than one engine. In the process of use, the maintenance cost of two engines is also higher than one. Therefore, various airlines have begun to phase out four-engine passenger aircraft and turn to twin-engine ones. camp.

  The IL-96 also needs a new engine!
  Does Lao Maozi have it himself?
  Of course not. If there were, he wouldn't come to Dongfang to find Mr. Qin.

  In the era of the Red Empire, large turbofans were produced by Ermao, which was produced by Motor Sich Company. The engine with the highest thrust was the D-18T. The thrust at that time was 23 tons, but the bypass ratio was not high enough. As long as the bypass ratio continued to be improved , a thrust of 34 tons is also achievable.

  There is no need for a brand new engine, the current core engine will be enough. In this way, the engine problem will be solved.

  In addition to engines, there is also avionics. In this regard, Mingzhou Group is also quite powerful. They have advanced avionics equipment that can be used to replace Western avionics.

  On the plane, Talikov kept talking about Western equipment. In fact, he wanted to say that as long as Mingzhou Group is willing to cooperate, all these equipment can be exchanged for Mingzhou Group’s!
  Mingzhou Group's avionics and engines, combined with Damao's airframe, are perfect!
  In this way, the IL-96 passenger aircraft will also be upgraded and become a world-class passenger aircraft. Their Ilyushin Design Bureau will also develop and grow as a result, keeping pace with Boeing and Airbus!
  Thinking of this, Talikov was full of excitement and he couldn't wait.

  "Mr. Qin, our cooperation will definitely be successful. We will use the shortest possible time to create the world's most advanced twin-engine, long-range, dual-channel wide-body passenger aircraft!" Tallikov said: "Even if we cannot get Western technology With the airworthiness certificate, we can also fly back and forth between Moscow and the East, as well as other places. The market prospect is broad, and there is a demand for at least thousands of aircraft!"

  Talikov is looking forward to it.

  Qin Tao smiled: "Yes, it would be great if we could jointly develop together. However, I don't know much about passenger aircraft, so I still have to go back and discuss it with others. You go first and stay in the hotel. We will have a banquet in the evening." Your side, we’ll talk about it when the time comes.”

  "it is good."

  After seeing the guests into the hotel, others came to the conference room.

  "What do you think of Lao Maozi's plan?" Qin Tao asked.

  "I think it will work." A leader of AVIC said: "Da Mao's fuselage is quite good. Coupled with our engines and avionics, it will be perfect."

  "Yes, we originally agreed to cooperate together, and now we can learn from each other's strengths and complement each other's weaknesses, and jointly develop a large passenger aircraft, and it will take the shortest time."

  Everyone present was supportive.

  Qin Tao looked at Mr. Cheng: "Mr. Cheng, what do you think?"

  Mr. Cheng shook his head: "It's not that simple to change from four rounds to two rounds."

  A layman watches the fun, and an expert watches the door. Everyone present is a layman. Only Mr. Cheng has the experience of developing Yunshi back then, so he is an expert.

  "Since the engine is suspended from the wing, the position of the wing suspension needs to be reinforced. This not only has to bear the weight of the engine, but also the thrust of the engine, not only the forward thrust, but also the thrust of the engine. Reverse thrust." Mr. Cheng introduced: "In this way, the design of the wing suspension position is very complicated. Four engines are changed to two engines. Where should the engines be hoisted? Even if it is originally on the inside, it is definitely not strong enough. So it needs to be redesigned, and does the position of the outer rack need to be reduced in weight?"

  This kind of tinkering is equivalent to redesigning the wing! For an aircraft, the most important thing is the wing. Redesigning the wing almost means redesigning the entire aircraft. Lao Maozi is talking about modifying their IL-96. In fact, it requires a little more work. No smaller than a brand new R&D!
  "After I went up, I also did some research. Lao Maozi did not do a good job in lightweighting at all. The entire body was overweight. I also checked some information. Overall, Lao Maozi's body design was at least It is five percent or even ten percent heavier than Western airframe designs."

  The structure is overweight!

  For Lao Maozi, they have always liked a rough style. Passenger planes must put safety first, and they must be thicker where they should be, so they use a lot of materials, which also leads to the heavy weight of their passenger planes. However, for Lao Maozi, It doesn't matter to me. The engine consumes oil in the first place, and they don't care about the impact of its own weight. They have plenty of oil anyway, so it doesn't matter if they burn more oil.

  The Il-86 and Il-96 have never had any accidents in decades of flight, which they are proud of.

  This is not the case in the West. Since the [-]s, the materials used in various parts of the aircraft have been further standardized, making them lighter and more fuel-efficient. In addition, the engine is inherently fuel-efficient, so it can save a lot in airline operations. cost.

  Therefore, after the collapse of the Red Empire, a strange phenomenon emerged: Lao Maozi's own airlines were unwilling to use their own aircraft, because the fuel consumption would be high and they would not be competitive with Western airlines!

  Even if you can refill your own oil when you go, what about when you come back? They also have to refuel from the opponent's airport. If it takes a long time, the fuel consumption will put them at a disadvantage in the competition.

  After Mr. Zhu finished his analysis, everyone calmed down.

  If the Il-96's airframe needs to be re-developed, does it still have anything to do with the Il-96? How much does it cost to redevelop? Is cooperation worth it?
  Qin Tao smiled: "It seems that everyone is mentally prepared. That's it for today. Let's not reveal anything about tonight's banquet. We can wait until the formal meeting tomorrow to discuss it."

  In the hotel, the old guys are also discussing.

  "I think the people in the East are already tempted. They keep looking back and forth on our plane. Cooperation with us is the best choice."

  "That's right, Antonov Design Bureau has never produced a large passenger aircraft of this level. If we want to produce passenger aircraft, it is our Ilyushin Design Bureau."

  "Our passenger planes are equipped with their engines and avionics. No matter how we look at it, we are at a disadvantage. Do you think you can ask us to put the engine production here?"

  The big guys were talking a lot, and Tallikov looked at Nikolai expectantly: "Nikolai, Qin is always your friend. We can rely on you for this cooperation."

  "Of course I will help. After all, it is for our aviation industry, but are you really sure that the Orientals are interested in it?"

  “We are their best partner.”

  During the discussion, time passed slowly, and finally it was night.

  Qin Tao led everyone into the banquet hall with a smile. For Lao Maozi, his favorite thing was drinking. Looking at the fine wine on the table, they felt that they could hardly walk.

  While they were drinking wine, Tallikov walked up to Qin Tao with a wine glass in his hand: "Mr. Qin, I want to toast you. I hope we can have a happy cooperation."

  "Yes, I also hope to have a happy cooperation." Qin Tao said.

  "Mr. Qin, if we want to cooperate, can the final assembly be carried out on our side?" Tallikov said: "You provide the engine and avionics, and we provide the airframe and final assembly. In this way, our workload is roughly the same. We occupy The same goes for the shares.”

  Qin Tao smiled: "Let's wait until tomorrow to discuss this issue. Nicholas, Nicholas, come, let's have a drink together!"

  Before long, everyone was drunk.

  Yurasov also drank a few more glasses of wine. After he was helped to bed in a daze, he fell into a deep sleep. He slept until midnight, when he woke up due to urination, and then he tried to get up in a daze. At this moment, a pair of hands stretched out from the side and hugged his waist.

  In an instant, his drunkenness disappeared. He slowly turned his head and looked at a beautiful blonde lying next to him. The girl had fallen into a deep sleep. Her long eyelashes were blinking slightly, and she looked so beautiful.

  As if feeling his gaze, she slowly opened her eyes. “Dear, are you awake?”

  "Who are you? Why are you in my bed?"

  The blonde girl smiled: "Obviously you were in my bed. When I came back at night, I saw you at my door, so I dragged you in. I didn't expect you... you are so fierce. , people like it very much.”

  Did you go to the wrong room and get on the wrong bed?
  Yurasov looked around again. Yes, he lived in a standard room with two single beds. But now, there was a large bed here. He must have gone to the wrong room.

  "I'm sorry, I, I." Yurasov didn't know what to say, and suddenly there was only one thought left in his mind, hurry up and leave!
  He looked around for his pants, but where were they?
  "What are you looking for?"

  "Where are my pants?"

  "Your clothes are all stained. I asked the hotel to wash them and deliver them to you tomorrow morning." The blonde said, her hands becoming restless: "Now that you're awake, do we want to do it again?"

  Yurasov felt some desire reviving in his body, and he couldn't hold it back.

  It was a passionate night. When Yurasov got out of bed the next day, he felt that his waist was about to give out. After breakfast, he slowly walked to the conference room, still thinking about that. Famous girl, what’s the other person’s name? Will we meet again in the future?

  However, when he glanced at the people sitting in the conference room, his eyes widened immediately. In the seats of the Eastern delegation, there were also some old men sitting. One of them was a woman who had had close contact with him yesterday. The one is exactly the same!
  He was stunned for a moment.

  At this time, the blonde girl also raised her head and looked at him, with a smile on her face.

  Yurasov smiled and quickly sat back in his seat.

  "Okay, we are all here. Now for the meeting, let me introduce our personnel to you first." Qin Tao said, looking to his side: "We have the R&D personnel of large passenger aircraft, avionics personnel, etc." The technical staff and the technical staff of Genghis Khan Airlines will work together to coordinate technical issues. Of course, I don’t understand technology, so I am mainly a listener.”

  Yurasov understood that the woman opposite was from Prodigy Airlines, and many of the people at Prodigy Airlines were old men. But he didn’t expect that there would be such a beautiful woman among them. Since this is the case, we will definitely cooperate more often in the future. got engaged!
  Talikov nodded and waited until the introductions were completed before getting into the details.

  "Next, let's talk about the engine problem first. Please ask your technician to introduce your engine."

  The girl said: "Let me first introduce the engine of the advanced passenger aircraft we are planning. This engine is expected to have a thrust of 340 kilonewtons and a weight of about 5.8 tons..."

  Yurasov lowered his head and did not dare to look at the girl.

  The original D-18T engine has a dead weight of 4.1 tons, but its thrust is only 23 tons. If it wants to increase it to more than 30 tons, the engine's outer duct must be increased by a large circle, and the weight will also increase.

  However, this weight indicator is not outrageous. You must know that the weight of a Trent 1000 with the same thrust is roughly the same. If it can be developed to be consistent with this kind of engine, the technology is already very advanced.

  The big furs on the opposite side were also listening carefully, nodding while listening.

  What are they thinking at this time? Shouldn't the aircraft engine base be set up in Ermao back then?
  After the collapse of the Red Empire, Da Mao was also timid. Not only did he not have large aero engines, but he also did not have marine gas turbines. To this day, Lao Maozi is still subject to this restriction. Fortunately, there are Eastern gas turbines, otherwise many of Lao Maozi's warships will die prematurely. Pass away.

  Thinking of this, Nicholas looked at Qin Tao opposite him and found that Qin Tao was also looking at him boredly.

  So, Qin Tao winked.

  Nicholas understood, and the two of them stood up and walked outside almost at the same time.

  In the next room, Qin Tao took out two bottles of wine.

  "There's no point in listening to their nagging." Qin Tao said as he opened the lid: "Come on, Nicholas, let's drink."

  "Okay." Nicholas nodded: "Qin, let's drink!"

  The two of them were drinking, recalling the past and thinking about the future. The more they drank, the happier they became. When the bottle of wine reached the bottom, they vaguely heard the sound of quarreling coming from next door.

  "What's going on?" Nicholas stood up curiously.

  Qin Tao also stood up and walked in together.

  "Our standards at DaMao are the best. We must put the safety of passengers as our first priority. It's no problem if the aircraft is heavier!"

  "The weight of the aircraft is related to the profits of the airlines. This indicator must be in line with the West. If the passenger aircraft developed is overweight, no customers will like it."

  "Why not? Our Da Mao airlines and your Eastern airlines don't know how to purchase them?"

  "Of course not. They are all independent and will definitely purchase the same type of aircraft from Boeing and Airbus. By then, the aircraft we developed will also lose the market!"

  "Then you issue an executive order."

  Mao's experts didn't take it seriously, but they were very dissatisfied. The differences between the two sides became bigger and bigger, and their voices became louder and louder.

  "What's going on?" Nicholas asked.

  "They have never developed a passenger aircraft and have little experience. They were deceived by the West. The priority of passenger aircraft is to ensure safety. Even if it is heavier, it doesn't matter. They actually have to design a new body and wings, and we are required to undertake related research and development." Cost." "It's just a stupid idea," Tallikov said.

  "The weight of the aircraft directly affects the operating efficiency of the airline. Passenger aircraft must ensure safety, but they cannot increase their weight without limit just to ensure safety." Mr. Cheng also said: "What's more, the weight of the engine has greatly increased, and the wings must be Redesign."

  The original IL-96 used four engines, each of which weighed only 2.9 tons. Now the weight has become 5.8 tons. The hanger must be reinforced, and other parts can be omitted, which means that the wing must be re-engineered. As for the design, Lao Maozi only agreed to strengthen it and was unwilling to modify the rest. The contradiction between the two parties was getting bigger and bigger.

  "Mr. Tallikov, we are following the road of market economy. Everything must be determined by the market. If we want our aircraft to beat Boeing and Airbus, we must redesign the fuselage and wings." Qin Tao said: " Your Ilyushin Design Bureau is so famous, shouldn’t it be possible that you can’t even make this little change?”

  "But changes cost money, and they cost a lot of money!"

  "Do we have as much money as we do to develop engines?"

  The other party stopped talking.

  "If you don't have money, we can invest. However, after we invest, the shares we occupy will have to increase."

  Da Mao doesn't want to spend money. He just wants to rely on the Il-96 body as an investment. In this way, he will occupy half of the shares, and he also requires final assembly. The price will be manipulated when the time comes. Now, Qin Tao wants to increase investment, so what share do they have? The shares are small, so of course they will not agree.

  "Mr. Qin, without you, we will still have large passenger planes. However, if you leave us, your large passenger planes will never fly into the sky." Tallikov said.

  This sentence was an angry remark, but when it came out, the two sides were completely at loggerheads.

  "Talikov, what are you talking about?" Nicholas frowned: "If you have differences, you can take your time. Don't be so anxious. Let's end today's meeting here."