Great warships

Chapter 705 Birth of Veyron
The morning meeting was over during the introduction, and during lunch, there were still many people discussing which solution was better, and they felt like they were getting more and more charming.

"When we were developing the third-generation aircraft, we had nothing to do with what we wanted, and crossed the river by feeling the stones. By the fourth-generation aircraft, we have completed all kinds of subsystems, allowing our designers to have more room to play. This is a huge improvement!" Mr. Lin was very happy.

"Mr. Lin, which plan do you think is better?" asked Mr. Gu who was eating at a table.

"Me? I don't care what I say now, it's up to everyone's choice." Elder Lin said, "I'm just here to join in the fun. But Mr. Qin must have his favorite plane. I just saw that he sometimes Shake your head, sometimes nod."

Qin Tao was taken aback for a moment, Mr. Lin, is this okay?You can't sell me like this!

Qin Tao was a little speechless. Looking at the eyes of everyone, Qin Tao said: "Is my words useful? Is it because I said that the meeting in the afternoon will not be held, and the decision will be made according to my choice?"

So, one didn't say anything, and the other didn't say anything, but neither of them said anything.

The real choice is to get everyone's opinions in the afternoon.

In terms of naval equipment, Qin Tao would rather offend others than insist on a certain point of view. For example, when he was working on the Aegis battleship, he firmly supported the plan of the 14th Institute. Even if his competitors were dissatisfied, he would not change his original intention. .

But now, he is just a spectator.

in the afternoon.

"You guys have opened your eyes today. Which one is better and more suitable for our air force, let's invite you to talk about it." The leader in the seat said: "Mr. Come on behalf of the plane, your Mingzhou Group has the most right to speak, so please tell us first."

Since Qin Tao is here, he will definitely not be a spectator. The leader has already started roll call.

Moreover, this reason is very appropriate: currently there are only two countries in the world that are developing stealth aircraft, and Mingzhou Group is the only company in China that has successfully developed stealth aircraft. Now that the Air Force wants to develop heavy stealth aircraft, of course we must listen to Qin Tao’s opinion up.

Qin Tao glanced at Mr. Gu, then at Mr. Song, and stood up calmly: "Since the leader has already called the roll, I have to give the leader some face. I will just say a few words. We all know that the fourth-generation machine There are four indicators, that is, 4S, so how to choose these four S when they cannot be balanced?"

The United States has the world's largest scientific and technological strength. The fourth-generation aircraft they developed can achieve four S balances, but other countries certainly do not have this strength.

Without this kind of strength, you have to make a choice.

"Let me first talk about the idea of ​​our fourth-generation machine." Qin Tao's words made it clear that no one should be offended. Which one is better depends on the focus.

"When we were developing the fourth-generation aircraft, we had one purpose: stealth. We must achieve the best stealth so that our fighters will not be detected by the enemy's radar. Only under this premise will we continue to consider Other performance." Qin Tao said: "For example, in the avionics system, we still have active phased array radar, but due to the high price, ordinary customers still choose our flat-panel slot radar configuration, such as mobility, We use a conventional aerodynamic layout, and our engines are not very powerful, so the maneuverability is only satisfactory, as for supersonic cruise, our aircraft does not have it at all."

The meaning of what Qin Tao said is already very clear: in the era of the fourth-generation mobile phones, stealth is the first priority, without stealth, everything else is useless!

To say which of the two bidding parties has better performance, just compare the stealth. This is not difficult, just make relevant models and take them to a special electromagnetic laboratory for testing.

Where is this laboratory?Of course in Chengdu!When the J-31A fighter jet project was first established, a special electromagnetic laboratory was built in a small building separated from the 611 Institute.Therefore, everyone can imagine that 611 will have more abundant reserves in this area.

"Mr. Qin, invisibility is very important, but invisibility is not necessary. If there is not enough mobility, it will become a tragedy once you get close to the line of sight. We believe that the indicator of mobility is rigid and must be You have to think about it!" Mr. Gu couldn't help but said, although Mr. Sun was in charge of the project, he was also very concerned about the future of Institute 601. He lost last time, and he must not lose again this time!

"That's right, Mr. Gu, what you said is right. Once you get close to the line of sight, you will suffer from poor maneuverability in dogfighting. However, what is the tactic of our fourth-generation aircraft? Is it fighting with the enemy's fighter jets?"

"Using the precious fourth-generation machine for fighting is definitely a waste." Mr. Lin finally spoke.

"The tactics of the fourth-generation aircraft are to attack the enemy's high-value targets under the command of the early warning aircraft." Qin Tao continued to introduce: "For example, early warning aircraft, aerial refueling aircraft, ground command agencies, etc. They will launch from a distance Missiles, and then retreated successfully, trying not to let yourself get into close combat. Do you know why the American fourth-generation aircraft put supersonic cruise into it?"

"It is to reach the battlefield as soon as possible."

"No, not only to reach the battlefield as soon as possible, but also to leave the battlefield as soon as possible. If the situation is not good, they immediately enter the supersonic cruise and retreat. As long as they enter the supersonic cruise, the battle is basically over."

Advanced heavy fighter jets can fly up to Mach 5, but that consumes a lot of fuel. They can fly for two hours. If the afterburner is fully turned on, it will burn out in [-] minutes. Therefore, the afterburner is only doing some maneuvers. It is used during action, and it will definitely not be used all the time, let alone cruise.

Of course, there are only a few exceptions. For example, the MiG-25, the afterburner is specially made and can be used for a long time. At the same time, the aircraft carries a lot of fuel. tons) has a maximum take-off weight of 15 tons. Except for the weight of one or two tons of pilots and missiles, the rest can be used to load fuel. Almost every time you go to the sky, you will bring 20 tons of fuel.

In later generations, when NATO conducts air combat exercises, every time the EF2000 wants to rely on its excellent maneuverability to fight with the F-22, the pilot of the F-22 will directly enter the supersonic cruise. Bye, let's not play up!
Therefore, the Europeans engaged in the ramjet meteor missile with a range of more than 100 kilometers. It is estimated that there is also this reason: they want to shoot down the F-22 that has entered supersonic cruise.

The research and development of the 601 Institute has entered a misunderstanding: they pay more attention to mobility, which is completely misled by Sukhoi.

In the era of the Red Empire, the Su-27 fighter developed by Sukhoi was the representative of the strongest interpretation of maneuverability. After installing the vector engine, there are breathtaking movements such as falling leaves.

Sukhoi has tasted the sweetness in maneuverability. As the most dazzling presence in every air show, they are also going further and further in the pursuit of maneuverability. They develop the S-37 with forward-swept wings to improve the maneuverability of the aircraft. In their eyes, there is no concept of invisibility at all.

If there was any planned plasma stealth technology in the era of the Red Empire, it would be fine without considering the design of the fuselage. Now, there are no such tall things at all. If you want to be invisible, you can only use the shape to modify it. At this time, they still don't pay attention to stealth, that is a detour.

Even if the stealthy Su-57 is produced after it arrives, the actual stealth ability is still doubted.

The 601 Institute has been producing Su-27 series aircraft, and has a good relationship with the Sukhoi Design Bureau. Later, they also studied stealth technology together. In their eyes, stealth is of course not as good as maneuverability. At this time, Gu The old man seemed to have already reacted to something, and his face was a little ugly.

"In my opinion, the Snowy Owl fighter of the 601 Institute adopts a three-plane layout. Compared with the conventional layout and the canard layout, this method has two natural defects. One is that it affects the stealth performance, and the other is that the resistance at high speeds will be reduced. It’s very big.” An old expert present said: “I don’t know if you have done a stealth test, but what is the equivalent radar reflection area on its front?”

Qin Tao doesn't talk much, but the weight is very important. The comparison of several fighters is mainly based on the combat methods. That is to say, what kind of fighters will be needed in the future?

"The frontal equivalent radar reflection area is between 0.3 and 0.5. We believe that the effect of stealth cannot be overstated. Even if it is the American F-22, the stealth may not be as good as they boast." Sun The old man said.

"Yes, we don't know the extent of the stealth of the American F-22, but what we do know is that the stealth fighter developed by the Mingzhou Group has a frontal radar reflection area of ​​less than 0.1 square meters." An expert said: "If we can all achieve a radar reflection area of ​​0.1 square meters, it is not impossible for the Americans to achieve 0.01 square meters."

The frontal radar reflection area of ​​the Yankee's F-22 is said to be 0.01 square meters. This statement made many people sneer, how is it possible!

It's like the sniper competition back then. Domestic soldiers went to the competition with 85-style sniper rifles. When they heard about the accuracy of foreigners' sniper rifles, they were full of disbelief. precision?It is impossible to think about it!

As a result, when the competition started, they were all eliminated. It was not because the soldiers did not train hard, but because the guns in their hands were not strong enough!In the eyes of the opponent, your own sniper rifle is not a real sniper rifle at all, it can only be regarded as a precision marksman rifle.

Now, the stealth of the F-22 is a mystery, but it can be compared with our own.

When he heard this, Gu Lao was surprised for a while: "Can we achieve a frontal radar reflection area of ​​0.1 square meters?"

"Yes, if we have a better stealth coating, we can guarantee that this data will be even better." Qin Tao said.

"Our 611 plan has been tested repeatedly in the electromagnetic laboratory, and the frontal radar reflection area can be around 0.05." Song Lao said.At the beginning of the introduction, he did not mention these data, as if he was waiting for the present opportunity.

0.05! The faces of the people in Institute 601 are all black, this statistic is one-tenth of theirs!
"How is it possible, how did you do it?" Elder Sun asked in surprise.The 0.3 to 0.5 they said, of course, is to put gold on their face. In fact, it is about 0.5, and it is still this snowy owl. If it is a golden eagle, the radar reflection area is larger, which is a big problem caused by the air intake in the belly. ah.

"Of course, it is repeated calculations and repeated experiments to find the best combination of aerodynamics and stealth." Song Lao said: "Even if we use the canard layout, we still attach great importance to stealth."

Now there is no need to say anything else, as long as the needs of the Air Force are mentioned, it can be determined.

Institute 601's plan emphasized maneuverability, especially super-maneuverability. They used a three-plane layout in order to pursue high angle-of-attack combat performance. However, they did not expect that this special skill on the third-generation aircraft would be reversed on the fourth-generation aircraft. has become neglected.

The Air Force is the user and they hold the option!
"We need stealth aircraft." An air force general said: "The higher the stealth performance, the better."

"That's right, the mission of the fourth-generation aircraft is not to fight bayonets in the air, but to shoot cold arrows in the air."

Everyone almost overwhelmingly supported stealth. They did not expressly support the 611 Institute, but they could know which aircraft was more suitable for the Air Force's needs by looking at the performance comparison of the bidding aircraft.

"Everyone, no matter how important stealth is, can it have more ammunition than overload? Can it compare to high mobility?" Sun Lao was anxious: "The fourth-generation aircraft has four S, you can't just value one of them!"

"Yes, ammunition loading is also very important, but blindly pursuing ammunition loading will lead to a misunderstanding. If you want to be invisible, you must have a built-in bomb bay. If you want to have a high ammunition loading, the body must be huge. Your snow The body of the Owl is too large, it is impossible for this kind of fighter to be particularly flexible, and the purchase price will be higher, compared to a fighter, the Snow Owl is more like a fighter-bomber." A leader said.

This sentence made Qin Tao's eyes shine. At present, the stealth bomber project has not started in China, and the H-20 has not yet been approved. The Snowy Owl from the 601 Institute is not qualified as a stealth fighter, but if it is a bomber , but there are still considerations.

Even if they fail this bidding, they can continue to develop as a bomber, and they can hang an air-launched version of the Eagle-21 in their stomachs. What if the Navy likes it?

Even if the H-20 is built, it is estimated that the length of the belly bomb bay will not reach the order of nine meters. After all, this bomber has a flying wing layout, a short body and a large wingspan.

That's for later, though, and it's the Air Force's bidding session.

There was no need for Qin Tao to interfere in the next matter, and Mr. Lin did not interfere either. The two sat in the corner and communicated in a low voice.

"You were very supportive of the 611 project back then. Now it seems that the 611 has not let you down. This bidding will succeed again. This time it will definitely establish the position of the 611 in the domestic aviation industry." Lin Lao said.

Qin Tao nodded: "Our engine is still not as advanced as the American technology. Therefore, the power is insufficient and aerodynamic. The canard layout is our most suitable aerodynamic layout solution. Song Lao and the others only need to make the stealth meet the standard. A qualified fourth-generation heavy-duty stealth aircraft."

Thinking of the majestic scene of the J-31 in the sky, Qin Tao is also full of expectations. This project has a certain relationship with their Mingzhou Group. Many of Mr. Song's inspirations come from the J-15A, and then carried out further modifications. , The power of this aircraft is directly reserved for the Turbofan-[-], and it was also promoted by Qin Tao.

"Tell me, can this fighter be converted into a carrier-based fighter in the future?" Elder Song asked again.

Qin Tao shook his head: "I don't know, let's develop it for the Air Force first."

Suddenly, Qin Tao thought of something again: "Mr. Lin, please keep an eye on it. It is not easy for the 611 to come to the present. In the past, it will cause many unfavorable factors to the research and development of this fighter, if something like this happens, you have to use the waste heat."

A cold light flashed in Old Lin's eyes: "As long as I, Old Lin, are still alive, whoever dares to play tricks like this, don't blame me, Old Lin, for being rude!"

Qin Tao was just taking precautions in advance, and this method did not succeed in the end. After Mr. Yang was transferred, he never took up his post at all: I came from 611, and my position is here, and I will not go anywhere !And the leader who was transferred couldn't take over any leadership work at all, so he had to let it go.

At that time, Gong Yang had a tough attitude. Now, with the support of seniors like Mr. Lin, it should be easier to crush this conspiracy.

While the two were talking, they heard bursts of applause.

Amid the applause, Mr. Song was all red and stepped onto the rostrum. It seemed that this was about to announce the result of the bidding?

"Now, I solemnly announce that the plan of the 611 Institute is suitable for the future equipment of the Air Force. The 611 plan of the 718 Institute won our bid and officially became the fourth-generation aircraft project of the Air Force. The most important project, I hope that your 611 Institute will guard against arrogance and impetuosity, inherit the spirit of hardworking and enterprising in the development process of the third-generation aircraft, and complete the development of this fighter as soon as possible!"

"Yes, our 611 Institute will definitely live up to our mission!" Mr. Song was very excited. As the chief engineer, it is enough to work on one project in a lifetime, and he was able to develop two projects by himself, and they were both of great significance. very happy.

The J-[-] allowed domestic fighter development to catch up to the world's first-class level, while the J-[-] surpassed it and stood in the ranks of the world's first echelon!

"Here, I would like to thank Mingzhou Group and Mr. Qin. Without his foreshadowing, our fourth-generation aircraft project may be delayed by five to ten years, and even our third-generation aircraft will be delayed by more than five years. " Song Lao looked at Qin Tao's direction: "Now, here, I want to send an invitation to Mingzhou Group, and invite their J-31A research and development team to join our research and development team!"

Qin Tao was also stunned, there is such an operation?
He just came to join in the fun, to eat melons, but he didn't expect that he would become the biggest melon!
Old Lin's eyes brightened: "Lao Song's proposal is very good, I support it!"

At present, the J-[-] is just a model. If you want to go to the end to complete the test flight and finalize the service, there are still many years to go, and there is still a lot of work to be done. At this time, there are already stealth aircraft research and development The addition of experienced units can undoubtedly greatly speed up the research and development process.

Moreover, the J-31A R&D team is composed of two groups of people, one group is the engineer of the Yakovlev Design Bureau that Qin Tao fooled from Lao Maozi, and the other group is the technicians from the former 611 Institute , Zhao Dangsheng, who is currently in charge of the Chinese side, was originally engaged in J-[-] flight control.

What is this equivalent to?In the past, the 611 lent these people to the Mingzhou Group, and now they want it, and they need more. After borrowing for so long, there must be interest, right?

Qin Tao originally wanted to say that it was inappropriate. After all, the J-[-] project is a key project of the Air Force, and the level of secrecy is very high. If his own people are allowed to join, will there be leaks? I agreed. If he persisted, he would probably be questioned by Mr. Lin. Why aren't you happy, kid?Want more benefits?

"At present, we have completed the research and development of carrier-based aircraft and land-based fighter jets. Only the vertical take-off and landing fighter jets are still in the running-in process. There are indeed some spare personnel. If Mr. Song needs it, our group of people can join it "Qin Tao said: "However, the wages of us people are not low."

He has to say that although he supports national defense, the Mingzhou Group wants to make money after all, and you can't let the Mingzhou Group suffer. If you want people, you have to pay them wages!

Mr. Song smiled: "Mr. Qin, we have already thought about this. An aircraft can be divided into many subsystems. If your people join in, you can directly use the contracting method to contract the research and development of a certain subsystem. We will directly give you Contract funding. People are still your people.”

Qin Tao felt a little helpless, wanted to enter the establishment?no way?Or outsourcing is better!The wages of these people are still paid by the Mingzhou Group, and they are only contracting some projects.

In order to reduce the cost, Elder Song racked his brains. However, as long as the contracting price is right, his own side can accept it. After all, if there is no project, once people are idle, they may be useless.

"Okay, then follow this method." Qin Tao said.

At this time, the old Gu below was a little entangled. Since he wanted to contract the subsystems, could he also contract some systems?In this way, it can also be added to the research and development of the fifth-generation aircraft. However, asking them to find a contract with 611 would make them lose face. Just when he was hesitating, Mr. Lin had already started talking about other issues.

"Guys, now that we've settled down, should we give this plane a nickname?"

"Old Lin, how about you name it?" the leader on the rostrum said.

"The planes of the Mingzhou Group are all marked with dragon characters. Ours must also have dragon characters. How about calling them Veyron?"

(End of this chapter)