Tracing China: Through history, dialogue between ancient and modern
Chapter 295 Would it be better to replace the Qing Dynasty with another dynasty?
Chapter 295 Would it be better to change the Qing Dynasty to another dynasty?
Starting from Nurhachi and Huang Taiji, in the imperial study room, the emperors of the Qing Dynasty began to compose poems one by one.
After all, the imperial palace grew up as a great Confucianist, and his literary talents are not vulgar.
Guangxu said, "This day sheds tears all over the world, and there is a man with a strong navy."
Pu Yi, "Looking at everything in the world, the only way is the vicissitudes of life."
……
There was only one person who hesitated and couldn't hold out a word.
It is the Tongzhi Emperor.
Even compared with Pu Yi, the Emperor Tongzhi looked scrawny, sickly, and vain.
What many people don't know is.
Emperor Tongzhi was the son of Cixi, but he passed away at only 19 years old.
As for the cause of his death, like Emperor Guangxu, it was also an unsolved mystery in the Qing Dynasty.
but.
Historians of the Qing Dynasty are very good. Emperor Tongzhi only took power for one year, and he even won the reputation of "Tongzhi Zhongxing". This is simply a ridiculous joke!
Someone said:
"During the reign of Emperor Tongzhi, the Qing government suppressed the Taiping Rebellion, wiped out the rebellion in the west and east, and put down the rebellion in Shaanxi and Gansu successively. At the same time, it launched a new policy of Westernization. How could it not be "Tongzhi Zhongxing"."
Sounds awesome, but is that really the case?
Who put down the uprising?With his toes, he knew that it was the local clans of Zeng Guofan.
There is also the Westernization Movement, are you sure it has half a dime relationship with Emperor Tongzhi?It is mainly organized by Cixi and Li Hongzhang, right?
Inside the imperial study.
Looking at the Tongzhi Emperor with a pale face, Nurhachi asked, "Aixinjueluo Zaichun, what's going on with your bones?"
The implication is that as the emperor of the Qing Dynasty, even in the smoky last years, he should have the appearance of an emperor, right?
"The ancestors calm down."
"Zai Chun is guilty."
"Zai Chun is ashamed of his ancestors." Emperor Tongzhi was so frightened that he knelt down and begged for mercy, his face was pale and there was no trace of blood.
There was a black line on Nurhachi's forehead, and he complained, "Why are you panicking? When did I ask you about your crime? Tell me why you are so weak? Did you suffer from any serious illness during your lifetime?"
When he asked this question, Emperor Tongzhi trembled with fright, knocked his head on the ground, and dared not make a sound.
"Killing a thousand knives, Daqing, how can you be so soft-boned, shame on you." Nurhachi was so angry that he opened his mouth and cursed.
Daoguang couldn't help but said, "Son, what's the matter with you? Why are you sick? Are you sick?"
Emperor Tongzhi wanted to explain, but when the words came to his lips, he couldn't say anything.
Obviously there is something unspeakable.
Lin Feng frowned and murmured:
"Emperor Tongzhi, did he suffer from some unsightly and strange disease as the legend says?"
Emperor Tongzhi is the tenth emperor of the Qing Dynasty and the only son of Emperor Xianfeng and Empress Dowager Cixi. As the only son of Emperor Xianfeng, Emperor Tongzhi can be said to be the last feudal emperor in history under the system of inheritance from his father.
Emperor Tongzhi's ruling life was not satisfactory. Under the influence of a mother with a high desire to rule, Emperor Tongzhi became a puppet emperor. He lived in the shadow created by the Empress Dowager Cixi all his life. He was only 19 years old at the end Just crashed.
Cixi is one of the representatives. It is impossible for Cixi, who is greedy for power, to hand over power to her son.
She wants to imitate Wu Zetian's behavior of proclaiming emperor and realize a world where women's rights are in power.
But it is a pity that she is not Wu Zetian, nor does she have Wu Zetian's extremely high political means.
She will only do things according to her own wishes, and it is precisely because of her behavior that the Qing Dynasty gradually became weak and incompetent.
of course.
According to legend, not all of Tongzhi's untimely death was related to Cixi. In history, the evaluations of Emperor Tongzhi were all words such as "excessive pleasure" and "young indulgence".
Some classics record that Emperor Tongzhi's private life was extremely indecent.
He used such behavior to resist Cixi's not delegating power.
But not only did it do nothing, it ruined my life.
Depressed in the court and unable to pamper his beloved woman, Emperor Tongzhi was very depressed. The eunuchs around him felt very heartbroken seeing the emperor's appearance, so they came up with a good way to let Emperor Tongzhi go out of the palace to relax. In fact, the so-called Going out of the palace to relax is nothing more than looking for flowers and asking willows.The Emperor Tongzhi was addicted to this trip, and the whole party was singing and laughing every night in the place of fireworks.
The place of fireworks is not clean. Not long after, Emperor Tongzhi contracted a strange disease, festered all over his body and died at the age of 19.
In addition, there is also a test report by a professional who said that Emperor Tongzhi suffered from syphilis four years before his death, and because he was not cured, his condition became more and more serious and he eventually died of illness.
Looking at Tongzhi with a sick face, Lin Feng was speechless.
It seems that this man was really looking for flowers and willows outside the palace, causing sexually transmitted diseases, and eventually died.
"Zaichun, tell me, why did you turn into this inhuman and ghostly appearance? Do you still have the slightest attitude of an emperor?"
"Do you want to continue to be a joke for future generations?"
"What's the secret, tell me."
"History is in the past, what else is there to hide?"
"Faced with the cross-examination of the ancestors, do you dare to refuse to answer?"
Faced with aggressive questioning, Tongzhi, who was already terrified, dared to pretend to be dumb.
As a result, words such as "flower and willow disease" that caused people to stir up came out.
Footsteps sounded.
The other Qing emperors retreated and stayed away from Tongzhi, as if they didn't want to suffer from that strange disease that made people laugh.
Tongzhi wants to cry but has no tears. What does it mean, you have to ask.
I said that.
Are you so disgusted?
Worried that this person would not look away, Lin Feng swiped his hand and sent Tongzhi, whose face was terribly pale, back to his time and space.
until this time.
Nurhachi and Huang Taiji confronted Lin Feng and wanted to start a real dialogue.
"Mr. Lin, do future generations hate the Qing Dynasty?" Nurhachi asked with a heavy heart.
He also knew that the New China of later generations returned to the rule of the Han nationality.
"Mr. Lin, from your personal point of view, do you hate the Qing Dynasty?" Huang Taiji asked the second question.
Lin Feng said, "In the middle and late years of the Qing Dynasty, since Qianlong, the country has been closed to the outside world and does not accept new technologies and technologies from outside. As a result, the land of Kyushu is backward. If no one tramples on you mercilessly, you will linger on..."
"After the fall of the Qing Dynasty, Huaxia experienced decades of wars and wars, and tens of millions of people died before finally standing up."
"Do you think that future generations will hate Qing Dynasty?"
"If it's about me personally, I also feel that the Qing Dynasty has delayed the development of China for more than two hundred years."
"If not, if in this era, we introduce new technologies and complete industrialization."
"Then, from the beginning to the end, we, the Eastern Dragon, can stand on the top of the East."
……
Lin Feng said a lot, of course, history is history, so what if?
Nurhachi didn't get angry, but asked, "Mr. Lin, if the Qing Dynasty were replaced by your Central Plains dynasty, such as the Han Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty, or the Ming Dynasty, do you think it will do better than the Qing Dynasty?"
This problem can be described as unsolvable.
Can the Qing Dynasty be changed to another historical dynasty, can it do better than the Qing Dynasty?
Maybe better.
Maybe worse.
Maybe it's all the same ending.
Fortunately, behind Lin Feng, there are tens of thousands of big guys who are watching the show. Is there a lot of power?
Faced with this "incomprehensible" body, everyone is already speaking freely and blowing their minds.
Netizen "Long Time Lights" said:
Impossible to keep up, also being hammered and unable to find the north.
In this oriental land, the opponent faced at the end of the Qing Dynasty was not a sudden rise, but a powerful opponent developed after hundreds of years of development after the Renaissance produced scientific theories.
If you want to keep up, you have to do social transformation after the founding of New China.
An inappropriate metaphor is that a group of elementary school students (feudal dynasty established in ancient agricultural society) go to the postgraduate entrance examination (to face the great powers in the late Qing Dynasty).
The reason for the poor grades of the Qing Dynasty is that the Qing Dynasty was the only one who took the exam, and it was taken by the great powers with a gun.
In the Ming Dynasty, the great powers failed to catch him and let him run away (Europe hadn’t taken off until the end of the Ming Dynasty, and the ability to project power was not enough to form a strong maritime presence in the east).
The rest are chances of not playing at all.
In fact, it can be found that the backwardness in science and technology was already obvious in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, such as shipbuilding, astronomy, and navigation.
Around 1500 AD, the development speed of the western continent began to accelerate significantly, and it was completely left behind by the first industrial revolution and the second industrial revolution.
……
A netizen named "Historical Little Baijia" said:
From the perspective of political system, there is no big difference between the Qing Dynasty and the Qin, Ming and Tang Dynasties, both of which were feudal autocratic monarchy systems.The failure of the Westernization Movement in the Qing Dynasty tells us that it is difficult to effectively resist foreign aggression without touching the foundation of the feudal system.From the perspective of overthrowing the old system, Qin, which had thoroughly implemented Shang Yang's reform, still had hope of catching up with the times.The Tang Dynasty, known for its openness and tolerance, was more likely to catch up with the times than the Ming and Qing Dynasties.As for the Ming and Qing brothers, I think the ending should be the same.
……
A netizen named "Handsome as hell" is more radical and said:
No one else would have such a serious problem!
First of all, they lost at home, and the loss was so messed up that they couldn't get back.
If you can't find your way back, you have to dump the blame on others?
Secondly, in modern times, the question of who will reform has been clearly stated by the Manchus themselves. The great scholars have fortitude and tasted the words: "Reformers benefit the Han people and harm the Manchus! I have property, and I would rather give it away." For friends, but not for slaves to share the profits!"
Anyone can reform, except the Manchus.
It has nothing to do with the system. Secondly, let me explain a question. Whether the Manchu Qing Dynasty was a feudal dynasty or a slavery society, it is obviously going backwards.
……
Netizen "Huaxia Rongguang" said:
There is no reliable answer.
Have you learned all in vain?What is the most fundamental reason that determines whether a country or nation can keep up with or even surpass the pace of the times?
That's right!It is productivity!What kind of dynasty does it have a Mao relationship with!
The Qing Dynasty was the peak of autocratic centralization in the feudal era of more than 5000 years!
Of course, it is the pinnacle of restraining the development of social productive forces!
It doesn't make sense for him not to die!If the Qing Dynasty did not interrupt the budding of capitalism in the Ming Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty would definitely develop into a capitalist country, although there will be counterattacks by the feudal forces in the middle, and the process will be more difficult and tortuous!It should be later than Western countries, but it must be earlier than Wa! !
So, we might not have a hundred years of humiliation, but 50 years of humiliation? 30 years of humiliation?Not even humiliation! !
……
(End of this chapter)
Starting from Nurhachi and Huang Taiji, in the imperial study room, the emperors of the Qing Dynasty began to compose poems one by one.
After all, the imperial palace grew up as a great Confucianist, and his literary talents are not vulgar.
Guangxu said, "This day sheds tears all over the world, and there is a man with a strong navy."
Pu Yi, "Looking at everything in the world, the only way is the vicissitudes of life."
……
There was only one person who hesitated and couldn't hold out a word.
It is the Tongzhi Emperor.
Even compared with Pu Yi, the Emperor Tongzhi looked scrawny, sickly, and vain.
What many people don't know is.
Emperor Tongzhi was the son of Cixi, but he passed away at only 19 years old.
As for the cause of his death, like Emperor Guangxu, it was also an unsolved mystery in the Qing Dynasty.
but.
Historians of the Qing Dynasty are very good. Emperor Tongzhi only took power for one year, and he even won the reputation of "Tongzhi Zhongxing". This is simply a ridiculous joke!
Someone said:
"During the reign of Emperor Tongzhi, the Qing government suppressed the Taiping Rebellion, wiped out the rebellion in the west and east, and put down the rebellion in Shaanxi and Gansu successively. At the same time, it launched a new policy of Westernization. How could it not be "Tongzhi Zhongxing"."
Sounds awesome, but is that really the case?
Who put down the uprising?With his toes, he knew that it was the local clans of Zeng Guofan.
There is also the Westernization Movement, are you sure it has half a dime relationship with Emperor Tongzhi?It is mainly organized by Cixi and Li Hongzhang, right?
Inside the imperial study.
Looking at the Tongzhi Emperor with a pale face, Nurhachi asked, "Aixinjueluo Zaichun, what's going on with your bones?"
The implication is that as the emperor of the Qing Dynasty, even in the smoky last years, he should have the appearance of an emperor, right?
"The ancestors calm down."
"Zai Chun is guilty."
"Zai Chun is ashamed of his ancestors." Emperor Tongzhi was so frightened that he knelt down and begged for mercy, his face was pale and there was no trace of blood.
There was a black line on Nurhachi's forehead, and he complained, "Why are you panicking? When did I ask you about your crime? Tell me why you are so weak? Did you suffer from any serious illness during your lifetime?"
When he asked this question, Emperor Tongzhi trembled with fright, knocked his head on the ground, and dared not make a sound.
"Killing a thousand knives, Daqing, how can you be so soft-boned, shame on you." Nurhachi was so angry that he opened his mouth and cursed.
Daoguang couldn't help but said, "Son, what's the matter with you? Why are you sick? Are you sick?"
Emperor Tongzhi wanted to explain, but when the words came to his lips, he couldn't say anything.
Obviously there is something unspeakable.
Lin Feng frowned and murmured:
"Emperor Tongzhi, did he suffer from some unsightly and strange disease as the legend says?"
Emperor Tongzhi is the tenth emperor of the Qing Dynasty and the only son of Emperor Xianfeng and Empress Dowager Cixi. As the only son of Emperor Xianfeng, Emperor Tongzhi can be said to be the last feudal emperor in history under the system of inheritance from his father.
Emperor Tongzhi's ruling life was not satisfactory. Under the influence of a mother with a high desire to rule, Emperor Tongzhi became a puppet emperor. He lived in the shadow created by the Empress Dowager Cixi all his life. He was only 19 years old at the end Just crashed.
Cixi is one of the representatives. It is impossible for Cixi, who is greedy for power, to hand over power to her son.
She wants to imitate Wu Zetian's behavior of proclaiming emperor and realize a world where women's rights are in power.
But it is a pity that she is not Wu Zetian, nor does she have Wu Zetian's extremely high political means.
She will only do things according to her own wishes, and it is precisely because of her behavior that the Qing Dynasty gradually became weak and incompetent.
of course.
According to legend, not all of Tongzhi's untimely death was related to Cixi. In history, the evaluations of Emperor Tongzhi were all words such as "excessive pleasure" and "young indulgence".
Some classics record that Emperor Tongzhi's private life was extremely indecent.
He used such behavior to resist Cixi's not delegating power.
But not only did it do nothing, it ruined my life.
Depressed in the court and unable to pamper his beloved woman, Emperor Tongzhi was very depressed. The eunuchs around him felt very heartbroken seeing the emperor's appearance, so they came up with a good way to let Emperor Tongzhi go out of the palace to relax. In fact, the so-called Going out of the palace to relax is nothing more than looking for flowers and asking willows.The Emperor Tongzhi was addicted to this trip, and the whole party was singing and laughing every night in the place of fireworks.
The place of fireworks is not clean. Not long after, Emperor Tongzhi contracted a strange disease, festered all over his body and died at the age of 19.
In addition, there is also a test report by a professional who said that Emperor Tongzhi suffered from syphilis four years before his death, and because he was not cured, his condition became more and more serious and he eventually died of illness.
Looking at Tongzhi with a sick face, Lin Feng was speechless.
It seems that this man was really looking for flowers and willows outside the palace, causing sexually transmitted diseases, and eventually died.
"Zaichun, tell me, why did you turn into this inhuman and ghostly appearance? Do you still have the slightest attitude of an emperor?"
"Do you want to continue to be a joke for future generations?"
"What's the secret, tell me."
"History is in the past, what else is there to hide?"
"Faced with the cross-examination of the ancestors, do you dare to refuse to answer?"
Faced with aggressive questioning, Tongzhi, who was already terrified, dared to pretend to be dumb.
As a result, words such as "flower and willow disease" that caused people to stir up came out.
Footsteps sounded.
The other Qing emperors retreated and stayed away from Tongzhi, as if they didn't want to suffer from that strange disease that made people laugh.
Tongzhi wants to cry but has no tears. What does it mean, you have to ask.
I said that.
Are you so disgusted?
Worried that this person would not look away, Lin Feng swiped his hand and sent Tongzhi, whose face was terribly pale, back to his time and space.
until this time.
Nurhachi and Huang Taiji confronted Lin Feng and wanted to start a real dialogue.
"Mr. Lin, do future generations hate the Qing Dynasty?" Nurhachi asked with a heavy heart.
He also knew that the New China of later generations returned to the rule of the Han nationality.
"Mr. Lin, from your personal point of view, do you hate the Qing Dynasty?" Huang Taiji asked the second question.
Lin Feng said, "In the middle and late years of the Qing Dynasty, since Qianlong, the country has been closed to the outside world and does not accept new technologies and technologies from outside. As a result, the land of Kyushu is backward. If no one tramples on you mercilessly, you will linger on..."
"After the fall of the Qing Dynasty, Huaxia experienced decades of wars and wars, and tens of millions of people died before finally standing up."
"Do you think that future generations will hate Qing Dynasty?"
"If it's about me personally, I also feel that the Qing Dynasty has delayed the development of China for more than two hundred years."
"If not, if in this era, we introduce new technologies and complete industrialization."
"Then, from the beginning to the end, we, the Eastern Dragon, can stand on the top of the East."
……
Lin Feng said a lot, of course, history is history, so what if?
Nurhachi didn't get angry, but asked, "Mr. Lin, if the Qing Dynasty were replaced by your Central Plains dynasty, such as the Han Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty, or the Ming Dynasty, do you think it will do better than the Qing Dynasty?"
This problem can be described as unsolvable.
Can the Qing Dynasty be changed to another historical dynasty, can it do better than the Qing Dynasty?
Maybe better.
Maybe worse.
Maybe it's all the same ending.
Fortunately, behind Lin Feng, there are tens of thousands of big guys who are watching the show. Is there a lot of power?
Faced with this "incomprehensible" body, everyone is already speaking freely and blowing their minds.
Netizen "Long Time Lights" said:
Impossible to keep up, also being hammered and unable to find the north.
In this oriental land, the opponent faced at the end of the Qing Dynasty was not a sudden rise, but a powerful opponent developed after hundreds of years of development after the Renaissance produced scientific theories.
If you want to keep up, you have to do social transformation after the founding of New China.
An inappropriate metaphor is that a group of elementary school students (feudal dynasty established in ancient agricultural society) go to the postgraduate entrance examination (to face the great powers in the late Qing Dynasty).
The reason for the poor grades of the Qing Dynasty is that the Qing Dynasty was the only one who took the exam, and it was taken by the great powers with a gun.
In the Ming Dynasty, the great powers failed to catch him and let him run away (Europe hadn’t taken off until the end of the Ming Dynasty, and the ability to project power was not enough to form a strong maritime presence in the east).
The rest are chances of not playing at all.
In fact, it can be found that the backwardness in science and technology was already obvious in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, such as shipbuilding, astronomy, and navigation.
Around 1500 AD, the development speed of the western continent began to accelerate significantly, and it was completely left behind by the first industrial revolution and the second industrial revolution.
……
A netizen named "Historical Little Baijia" said:
From the perspective of political system, there is no big difference between the Qing Dynasty and the Qin, Ming and Tang Dynasties, both of which were feudal autocratic monarchy systems.The failure of the Westernization Movement in the Qing Dynasty tells us that it is difficult to effectively resist foreign aggression without touching the foundation of the feudal system.From the perspective of overthrowing the old system, Qin, which had thoroughly implemented Shang Yang's reform, still had hope of catching up with the times.The Tang Dynasty, known for its openness and tolerance, was more likely to catch up with the times than the Ming and Qing Dynasties.As for the Ming and Qing brothers, I think the ending should be the same.
……
A netizen named "Handsome as hell" is more radical and said:
No one else would have such a serious problem!
First of all, they lost at home, and the loss was so messed up that they couldn't get back.
If you can't find your way back, you have to dump the blame on others?
Secondly, in modern times, the question of who will reform has been clearly stated by the Manchus themselves. The great scholars have fortitude and tasted the words: "Reformers benefit the Han people and harm the Manchus! I have property, and I would rather give it away." For friends, but not for slaves to share the profits!"
Anyone can reform, except the Manchus.
It has nothing to do with the system. Secondly, let me explain a question. Whether the Manchu Qing Dynasty was a feudal dynasty or a slavery society, it is obviously going backwards.
……
Netizen "Huaxia Rongguang" said:
There is no reliable answer.
Have you learned all in vain?What is the most fundamental reason that determines whether a country or nation can keep up with or even surpass the pace of the times?
That's right!It is productivity!What kind of dynasty does it have a Mao relationship with!
The Qing Dynasty was the peak of autocratic centralization in the feudal era of more than 5000 years!
Of course, it is the pinnacle of restraining the development of social productive forces!
It doesn't make sense for him not to die!If the Qing Dynasty did not interrupt the budding of capitalism in the Ming Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty would definitely develop into a capitalist country, although there will be counterattacks by the feudal forces in the middle, and the process will be more difficult and tortuous!It should be later than Western countries, but it must be earlier than Wa! !
So, we might not have a hundred years of humiliation, but 50 years of humiliation? 30 years of humiliation?Not even humiliation! !
……
(End of this chapter)
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