Becoming a lawyer starts with raising a Xiezhi
Chapter 520 Core Issues
Chapter 520 Core Issues
Wei Tiancheng's performance in court annoyed the public prosecutor very much. The judge frowned when he heard it. Wei Tiancheng's words are like those loaches in the mud, you catch them, stab them and run away.
"Defendant Wei Tiancheng, the work you mentioned is included in your 30 yuan in legal fees, and the rest of the fees you charge are the proceeds of your fraud. They are two different issues!" The prosecutor said seriously say.
Wei Tiancheng said: "You say it's fraudulent income? Is it fraudulent income? The money is the fee for my legal services provided to the client. The so-called finding a relationship is just the client's own request. I told them to find a relationship. To get them to pay their lawyers' fees."
"You ask them for legal fees, and you can ask for them in a fair manner. Why do you want to trick them?"
"I didn't lie to them. I actually went to communicate with the case-handling agency. This is also a way to find a relationship. However, the person concerned wants me to bribe the case-handling personnel secretly. I will never do this kind of thing, and this kind of thing is the only way to find a relationship." It's really a matter of crime!"
Wei Tiancheng spoke so righteously that the prosecutor was almost deflated. There was nothing he could do about it. This kind of case could be difficult to handle. After all, lawyers knew the law and were eloquent. It was really difficult to get them to admit the crime.
"Wei Tiancheng, you are deliberately misleading the parties. You made the parties mistakenly think that you are related, but in fact you are not related. You just negotiated with the case-handling agency in the normal way. This is a kind of deception. The purpose is to illegally occupy other people’s money. You said that this is what you deserve, and what you deserve is only the 30 yuan. The rest of the expenses are the money you deliberately misled and deceived the parties. It cannot be denied, and the prosecutor hopes that you can realize your mistake, don’t quibble here, refuse to plead guilty, this will only aggravate your crime.”
The public prosecutor reminded Wei Tiancheng, but Wei Tiancheng was not moved at all.
The public prosecutor felt that he was too benevolent and could not say anything more, so he stopped the interrogation.
After the public prosecutor's interrogation was over, the defenders started to ask questions, and the old lawyer Wei Tiancheng hired asked first: "Defendant, I am your defense lawyer, how much should you normally charge for this kind of case you represent? "
As soon as Wei Tiancheng heard about it: "For such a big case, a lawyer with my status would have to charge at least three or four million yuan. There were criminal cases before that received tens of millions. I'm just a few of them."
"Then what exactly is the 30 in this case?"
"It's the deposit, the deposit given to me by the client, not all the lawyer's fees."
"Why did you agree to only give such a small deposit?"
"Because this case was introduced by a friend, the client said that he didn't have so much money at the moment and wanted to pay a part of the deposit first, so he collected 30 first."
"After collecting 30 yuan, what work did you carry out?"
"I went to meet with the parties and learned about the basic facts of the case. I feel that this case is relatively complicated, and the case-handling agency may have made a mistake in the case. If you want to win the lawsuit, you will have to spend a lot of effort."
"Did the client then give you the remaining legal fees?"
"No, I have been urging them, but they said that there is no money for the time being, so I am a little unhappy, but then they saw that the person could not get out of it, so they came to me again and wanted me to think of a way. Just tell them that they may need to find a relationship to communicate with, but this requires some fees. The purpose of my saying this is to let them pay the lawyer's fees, otherwise they will not pay them all the time. I will use this method to The lawyer's fee was collected."
"You mean, you just tell them that I want to help you find a relationship, the purpose is to collect the remaining legal fees, right?"
"Yes."
"Did you help them find a relationship afterwards?"
"Although I told them this way, the purpose is to collect the lawyer's fee, but I also want to help them find a relationship, isn't it like this in a case? If I can find a relationship, it will be more convenient to communicate, so I went I went out to other places several times, met the local investigators, communicated with them, and they also listened to my opinion, which was an important reason for them to release the client afterwards."
"I see that on the day the client was released, you asked the client's family for a sum of money. What's the reason for this?"
"The client was released as a result of my hard work in defending, but the client did not pay the legal fees. Therefore, if I didn't ask them for it, I would not come back. Therefore, after learning that the client was going to be released, I hurriedly called the client. Family members, tell them to ask them to pay another part of the money, and the family members of the parties agreed to pay, which is nothing, I am not deceiving them."
"After the parties were released, why did you say that you were defrauding them and defrauding them of money?"
"This is their reason. After I finished the matter, they felt that I was no longer needed, and wanted to get the money back in their hearts, so they began to report me. We sometimes encounter such situations when we are handling cases. Obviously I helped them get things done, but they felt that our lawyers charged too much money, so they wanted to go back on their word. I have encountered this situation several times, and they are also in the same situation.”
"How did you communicate with them?"
"I told them at the time that the money was my lawyer's fees and it was impossible to return it to them. They reported it to the police when they saw that they would not come back."
"When you met with the client, did you tell the client about the lawyer's fees you charged?"
"No. Because it is inconvenient to tell the client about this matter. The client is in a bad mood in the detention center. If they hear that a large amount of legal fees have been spent, they will probably feel uncomfortable. After all, no one wants to When this kind of thing happens, our lawyers are taking money from people to help them eliminate disasters, but the victim may not necessarily want to spend a large amount of legal fees in his heart."
"When you collect the last few fees, can the person in question ask you about finding a relationship afterwards?"
"No, they didn't ask me how to do things afterwards. What they want is the result, not the process. Their purpose is to let me help them complete the case. Just imagine, if I was defrauding them, how could they Give me money? I am the lawyer representing the client, and I have paid my labor. They are willing to give me money, not because I lied to them that I have a relationship, but because I want to help them find a relationship. As for whether they can find a relationship, They don't care, what they care about is getting people out, which is the core issue between me and them."
(End of this chapter)
Wei Tiancheng's performance in court annoyed the public prosecutor very much. The judge frowned when he heard it. Wei Tiancheng's words are like those loaches in the mud, you catch them, stab them and run away.
"Defendant Wei Tiancheng, the work you mentioned is included in your 30 yuan in legal fees, and the rest of the fees you charge are the proceeds of your fraud. They are two different issues!" The prosecutor said seriously say.
Wei Tiancheng said: "You say it's fraudulent income? Is it fraudulent income? The money is the fee for my legal services provided to the client. The so-called finding a relationship is just the client's own request. I told them to find a relationship. To get them to pay their lawyers' fees."
"You ask them for legal fees, and you can ask for them in a fair manner. Why do you want to trick them?"
"I didn't lie to them. I actually went to communicate with the case-handling agency. This is also a way to find a relationship. However, the person concerned wants me to bribe the case-handling personnel secretly. I will never do this kind of thing, and this kind of thing is the only way to find a relationship." It's really a matter of crime!"
Wei Tiancheng spoke so righteously that the prosecutor was almost deflated. There was nothing he could do about it. This kind of case could be difficult to handle. After all, lawyers knew the law and were eloquent. It was really difficult to get them to admit the crime.
"Wei Tiancheng, you are deliberately misleading the parties. You made the parties mistakenly think that you are related, but in fact you are not related. You just negotiated with the case-handling agency in the normal way. This is a kind of deception. The purpose is to illegally occupy other people’s money. You said that this is what you deserve, and what you deserve is only the 30 yuan. The rest of the expenses are the money you deliberately misled and deceived the parties. It cannot be denied, and the prosecutor hopes that you can realize your mistake, don’t quibble here, refuse to plead guilty, this will only aggravate your crime.”
The public prosecutor reminded Wei Tiancheng, but Wei Tiancheng was not moved at all.
The public prosecutor felt that he was too benevolent and could not say anything more, so he stopped the interrogation.
After the public prosecutor's interrogation was over, the defenders started to ask questions, and the old lawyer Wei Tiancheng hired asked first: "Defendant, I am your defense lawyer, how much should you normally charge for this kind of case you represent? "
As soon as Wei Tiancheng heard about it: "For such a big case, a lawyer with my status would have to charge at least three or four million yuan. There were criminal cases before that received tens of millions. I'm just a few of them."
"Then what exactly is the 30 in this case?"
"It's the deposit, the deposit given to me by the client, not all the lawyer's fees."
"Why did you agree to only give such a small deposit?"
"Because this case was introduced by a friend, the client said that he didn't have so much money at the moment and wanted to pay a part of the deposit first, so he collected 30 first."
"After collecting 30 yuan, what work did you carry out?"
"I went to meet with the parties and learned about the basic facts of the case. I feel that this case is relatively complicated, and the case-handling agency may have made a mistake in the case. If you want to win the lawsuit, you will have to spend a lot of effort."
"Did the client then give you the remaining legal fees?"
"No, I have been urging them, but they said that there is no money for the time being, so I am a little unhappy, but then they saw that the person could not get out of it, so they came to me again and wanted me to think of a way. Just tell them that they may need to find a relationship to communicate with, but this requires some fees. The purpose of my saying this is to let them pay the lawyer's fees, otherwise they will not pay them all the time. I will use this method to The lawyer's fee was collected."
"You mean, you just tell them that I want to help you find a relationship, the purpose is to collect the remaining legal fees, right?"
"Yes."
"Did you help them find a relationship afterwards?"
"Although I told them this way, the purpose is to collect the lawyer's fee, but I also want to help them find a relationship, isn't it like this in a case? If I can find a relationship, it will be more convenient to communicate, so I went I went out to other places several times, met the local investigators, communicated with them, and they also listened to my opinion, which was an important reason for them to release the client afterwards."
"I see that on the day the client was released, you asked the client's family for a sum of money. What's the reason for this?"
"The client was released as a result of my hard work in defending, but the client did not pay the legal fees. Therefore, if I didn't ask them for it, I would not come back. Therefore, after learning that the client was going to be released, I hurriedly called the client. Family members, tell them to ask them to pay another part of the money, and the family members of the parties agreed to pay, which is nothing, I am not deceiving them."
"After the parties were released, why did you say that you were defrauding them and defrauding them of money?"
"This is their reason. After I finished the matter, they felt that I was no longer needed, and wanted to get the money back in their hearts, so they began to report me. We sometimes encounter such situations when we are handling cases. Obviously I helped them get things done, but they felt that our lawyers charged too much money, so they wanted to go back on their word. I have encountered this situation several times, and they are also in the same situation.”
"How did you communicate with them?"
"I told them at the time that the money was my lawyer's fees and it was impossible to return it to them. They reported it to the police when they saw that they would not come back."
"When you met with the client, did you tell the client about the lawyer's fees you charged?"
"No. Because it is inconvenient to tell the client about this matter. The client is in a bad mood in the detention center. If they hear that a large amount of legal fees have been spent, they will probably feel uncomfortable. After all, no one wants to When this kind of thing happens, our lawyers are taking money from people to help them eliminate disasters, but the victim may not necessarily want to spend a large amount of legal fees in his heart."
"When you collect the last few fees, can the person in question ask you about finding a relationship afterwards?"
"No, they didn't ask me how to do things afterwards. What they want is the result, not the process. Their purpose is to let me help them complete the case. Just imagine, if I was defrauding them, how could they Give me money? I am the lawyer representing the client, and I have paid my labor. They are willing to give me money, not because I lied to them that I have a relationship, but because I want to help them find a relationship. As for whether they can find a relationship, They don't care, what they care about is getting people out, which is the core issue between me and them."
(End of this chapter)
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