Bi Qu faltered for a long time.
Many people looked at his face.
Shi Cai was still belittling hypocrisy in his words, but now Su Jie said it was even more unbearable.
The princesses of all countries were amazed by Su Jie's talent.
Immediately his eyes were filled with color.
Zhao You looked proud.
There is a series of reveries in my heart.
Bi Qu had no choice, so he said: "Is there any right or wrong between heaven and earth? What you think is right in Qin State is exactly wrong, and what you think is wrong now is exactly right!"
Su Jie looked angrily, and said: "It's just you guys who play tricks on mystification, who use such seemingly high-level words to prevaricate, it's really a disease of Taoism. You Taoists think that nature is the best state, but you can't see it. The so-called striving for hatred and killing, and my country of Qin established laws in order to resolve disputes arising from the natural nature of human beings. Taoism put the cart before the horse. What is the benefit of this theory? Such a theory of distorting human nature is basically Hou is ashamed of you talking too much."
Su Jie flicked his sleeves and returned to the desk.
Taoism is said to be useless, even worse than Confucianism before it.
Bi Qu saw that the expressions on the left and right had changed, and he was a little annoyed at once, but after all, the king of Chu was in front of him, and he didn't dare to speak out against each other. In the end, he could only wave his sleeves and return to his seat.
At this moment, the old man in black finally stopped hesitating.
Straight out.
Facing Su Jie, Jishou said: "Qu Qiuli, a Mohist disciple, wants to argue with Marquis Wu!"
a time.
Everyone in Chu State showed surprise.
This person came as a messenger, obviously not Chu Mo.
Su Jie was also quite surprised, although the Mo family entered Qin, but Meng Qi did not make a mandatory request back then.
Go if you want, don't force if you don't want to.
Presumably this person is the Mohist school of debate.
Su Jie looked at where he was sitting, it was Yan Guo.
Most of Qi Mo's people are in Yan Qi.
It must be so.
Since it is a Mohist, Su Jie was a little more polite, cupped his hands and said, "What's your opinion, Mister?"
Envoys from various countries looked into each other's eyes.
Confucianism and Taoism were defeated.
This Su Jie is really difficult to deal with.
Qu Qiuli said: "At that time, Marquis Wu discussed the emergence of disputes many times in the words of Confucianism and Taoism. There are disputes in Confucianism, Taoism also has disputes, and my Mohism naturally has it. However, Mohism believes that all the troubles in the world The origin of it is because of the heart of private ownership, since private ownership produces differences, differences produce differences, differences lead to disputes, small disputes can destroy a family, and major disputes can destroy a country, does Marquis Wu think so?"
Su Jie nodded and said, "What's wrong with private ownership?"
Qu Qiuli went on to say: "At that time, Marquis Wu mentioned the Five Ethics in the Confucian speeches. Grandfather is not as good as father, and father is not as good as yourself. But my Mohists think that the so-called good is to use it, and it is good to use it. Love and care for each other." Encourage the common people to make mutual benefits, to be useful to others and to the country, and to adhere to this law will naturally benefit the most. Isn't this law much better than the Qin law, and the country and family will naturally have fewer disputes, so that the country will not perish Dead home."
Su Jie was slightly taken aback.
This is a typical love story.
mutual benefit.
The theory of the Mohist school is not useless, and it is definitely not good to say that it is not good, but why has the Mohist school not been used.
That is because of the times.
The reason Su Jie knew was because of the Prophet.
But now, hundreds of schools are exploring.
Think about it here.
Su Jie immediately asked: "It is good to be useful, and good to be useful? Then is there a thing that is useless at all, but good?"
Su Jie asked this to remind him of the Mo family.
It is useless at all, in the eyes of the Mohists, that is bad, bad things, is there good in the eyes of the Mohists?
Even Xiong Wan and the others were stunned.
Secretly thought that Su Jie's reaction was too quick.
Qu Qiuli was stunned, without even thinking about it, and said directly: "Absolutely not, everything must be based on the criterion of benefit and non-profit, trade-offs and weighing, if it is beneficial to the people, it is right, and if it is not beneficial, it is harmful."
"My Mohists lobbied the princes of various countries not to attack each other, not because of the benevolence and righteousness in the mouth of Confucianism, but because of the advantages and disadvantages. If there is no war, both sides will win, and war will lose both. Therefore, it is not offensive."
a time.
There was a lot of discussion in the hall.
The princesses from all over the world listened to something fresh and exciting, and this verbal battle was no weaker than fighting on the battlefield.
Universal love, non-attack, Mohist sharp weapon.
Su Jie squinted his eyes, took a sip of wine, and said, "Sir, what you say is not just advocating everyone's utilitarianism? I'm afraid it's not as good as using the law to control the interests of the people in my Qin country."
Qu Qiuli said with a smile: "Wuhou's words are absurd. Everyone must focus on personal interests, but everyone strives to maximize their own interests and loves interaction. After superposition, it becomes the interests of the country. My Mohist words Benefits must be aimed at the people of the world, but for individuals, it is not only useless? Moreover, my Mohist encourages the sacrifice of individual interests to achieve national interests. How can this kind of spirit be comparable to the legalists' utilitarianism?"
Immediately, the envoys of various countries expressed their praises.
Finally won a layer.
Qin is an example.
The Mohists benefited collectively.
How can this be compared!
Xiong Wan and the others also looked bright. If Su Jie were to be debated, everyone in the world would say that Qin Fa was on the wrong path.
Being strong for a while cannot be strong for a lifetime.
In fact, Mohist theory is good.
Su Jie asked: "Put the people first, and take the interests of the people as the root. That's right. So, is your Mohism against the monarch?"
Su Jie's words cut the Mo family's vitals.
This is the reason why it has been said from ancient times to the present that Mohism has no king and no father.
This is also the fundamental reason why the monarchs do not use Mohism.
Su Jie smiled and said: "The people of the world will benefit from each other. If this is the case, the world will be unified. Then who is the emperor?"
What Su Jie meant was, according to your Mohist theory, all people in the world are like this, who can become the Son of Heaven among this group of people?
Qu Qiuli said: "People can succeed in happiness, not worry. Use the most ignorant people in the world to choose the most virtuous emperor in the world, and use the ignorance to choose the most virtuous. Does Marquis Wu think it is possible?"
What Qu Qiuli meant was.
The people can exchange benefits with each other, but they should not worry about development together with them, that is the business of their respective officials and kings.
Choose the most virtuous king and officials from the most ignorant and obedient people.
It will be able to achieve great harmony in this world.
Su Jie smiled and said: "There is no king and no father. It turns out that I only realized today that your Mo family is a mother's love, so you have no father!"
"puff……"
Many courtiers spewed out the old wine directly.
"maternal love?"
Qu Qiuli was also taken aback!
The princesses from all over the world covered their mouths and laughed lightly.
Su Jie then said: "Generally, mothers love their children more than fathers, but why do children always listen to their fathers? That is because fathers act with dignity and prohibition. Your Mohist's universal love cannot be appreciated by your father. To seek motherly love, right?"
a time.
Everyone laughed.
Su Jie continued: "Actually, it's not that a father doesn't love his son. A father's love is as broad and deep as a mountain. The legal system of our Qin State is like a father's love. He has made great sacrifices for the people, that is, the son. Don't lose his love for the people." The law, because the law loves the people, so I, Qin Guoqiang, do you understand, sir?"
Chapter 424 uses the rule of law to become a wise king, and uses the rule of law to prevent a faint king.
Su Jie's remarks made the envoys of various countries change their colors one after another. Although the legalist rule of the country has always been criticized by people, no matter how you say it, Qin has become strong because of it.
More or less, all countries hope to belittle this theory and deliberately suppress Qin's status among the people and interests.
But what Su Jie said today.
Different from Shang Jun's strong Qin Jiulun in the past, Fang made people suddenly understand the truth of it.
Especially Chu State, Xiong Wan, Huang Xie and others.
As a country that has been married to Qin for hundreds of years, they have watched with their own eyes how Qin has grown from a small country in Xirong to a large country in the past 200 years.
Xiong Wan murmured: "The Qin Mingjun will continue, and the virtuous ministers will continue. Otherwise, even a good theory will be useless."
Su Jie turned to Xiong Wanjishou, and said: "Qin ruled the country by law, encouraged farming and war, and favored profit. For 200 years, the world has been criticized by the world. It is said that the tigers and wolves of Qin State are cruel and inhumane. There must be someone who bears the name of cruelty and meanness, and he must be a legalist, but if there must be a number of governance methods in this world that give the people and all people a deep and broad love, then it must also be the rule of law .”
Qu Qiuli said: "Then dare to ask Marquis Wu, in whose hands is the handle of the legal system?"
Su Jie smiled and said: "Naturally it is in the hands of the monarch."
Qu Qiuli laughed and said: "If the handle of the law is in the hands of the monarch, what kind of law is there to talk about? It's just magic."
Everyone laughed.
He looked at Su Jie coldly.
Back then, Lord Shang was criticized for ruling the country with skill.
What is the difference between them.
There are three schools of Legalism.
Divided into spell potential.
South Korea is also ruled by legalists, but what is advocated in Shen Buhai's reform is surgery!
What Qu Qiuli meant was that the law should be in the hands of the state and the people, but if the power of Legalism is placed on one person, it is human interference, and human interference is not law, because people cannot If you are in control, you will be good if you meet the virtuous, and you will perish if you are foolish. That is to say, if you give the law to the monarch, if the monarch is not a wise monarch, he will use this handle to bring disaster to the world.
Qin Guo just met Ming Jun.
South Korea just met a faint king.
Su Jie didn't refute, but said along the way: "It's true, although human factors are involved in the legal system, once a law is enacted by a human being, this law exists independently of the legislator, even if the original intention of legislation is to serve the monarch. However, once the legislation is turned into a text, the power of interpretation of the text is in the hands of the ministers. Therefore, the world only sees the surface of the Qin law, but does not see it. I, Qin, advocate the law as the teaching, and the officials As a teacher, if you do this, even if Qin meets a foolish king in the future, as long as you follow the old rules, it will naturally weaken the foolish king's desire to act arbitrarily."
Su Jie's words.
Qu Qiuli stroked his beard and frowned, and said, "But, no matter what you say, the power of the Legalists concentrates more power in the hands of the monarch, which leads to the emergence of power."
Su Jie smiled and said: "That's right, the legal system of our country of Qin is based on the hand of the monarch, so that there is no privilege other than the monarch, but this Marquis also said before that legislation is the text, and the law is governed by officials, and the monarch's power is still supreme. But if the officials are not clear, they can take back their powers, what do you think, sir?"
What Su Jie meant was that nominally the monarch does have the supreme right.
But the world is so big, power must be in the hands of officials.
The legal system has been implemented, and the administration of officials is being rectified.
That's the long way.
It seems to have opened up the misunderstanding of the Fa in people's hearts.
A country has different applications of a theory and different views, not to mention a hundred schools of thought.
Qin Han is an example.
However, the legal systems of the two countries can only see the shape, but cannot understand the meaning.
Following Su Jie's explanation today.
Everyone suddenly became enlightened.
The most touching one is Xiong Wan.
Xiong Wan murmured: "The monarchy centralizes power? There are no privileges other than kingship? Well said, well said, what Marquis Wu said today is like thunder to everyone's ears."
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