Including, how to let Yingzheng have both loyalty and righteousness, this was all proposed by Li Si.
Therefore, Li Siken said that he was looking forward to winning the government.
Ying Zheng said with a smile: "Guess Qing's opinion is highly regarded by many people. I don't know what Ke Qing thinks about the current reform situation! Why do you think what Yu Shi and the prime minister said is inappropriate?"
Li Si came to the front of the hall.
Jishou said: "Because both the prime minister and the imperial censor believe that the Qin law cannot be deviated even for a moment, but why can't it be changed? That is because they regard the current Qin law as the way, but Li Si thinks that this statement is absurd."
Wang Wan said angrily: "What does Ke Qing mean, Qin Fa is a small way?"
Li Si shook his head, and then said: "There is nothing wrong with Qin's government protecting the law. However, the fundamental point of filial piety and Shang Jun governing Qin lies in changing the law in accordance with the times, not sticking to established laws. Li Si thinks that the theory of Shang Jun governing the country can be said To sum it up: Seeking change while trying to survive, in the final analysis, changing with the times, trying to survive is the way. If you regard the laws of Shang Jun as immutable, wouldn’t it be self-contradictory to use Shang Jun’s laws to attack Shang Jun’s way?”
When Ying Zheng heard about it, he suddenly became enlightened.
Said: "Continue talking."
Xiong Qi couldn't help taking a breath.
Secretly thought Li Si's words were powerful.
Why did Shangjun change?
Later generations took Shangjun's law as the golden rule, wouldn't this violate the original Shangjun's way!In other words, Mr. Shang himself believes that the law must change, and it must be changed in response to the times. The purpose is to preserve and strengthen.
Wang Wan and Feng Quji looked at each other in blank dismay.
"This??!!"
Even Su Jie secretly exclaimed, this Li Si is really amazing!What a talent!
Li Si said again: "Since the only thing is to seek change and preserve the law, why not make up for the shortcomings of the Qin law, correct the lack of the Qin law, and make the Qin legal system a model for all generations. The reason for this debate in the court today is not precisely because, in the minds of the courtiers and the king, the lack of the Shang monarch's legal system has gradually become apparent. In Li Si's view, the fundamental drawback lies in the severe punishment and the tolerance of morality. That's all."
Li Si's words undoubtedly pierced the hearts of many people.
However, at this moment, the Chu people from the clan and Xiong Qi's gang even jumped up and said: "Your words are excellent! That's right!!!"
Feng Jie couldn't bear it, walked out, and said: "Keqing's remarks are absurd. What Keqing said is not saying that Qin Fa lost his virtue. If Qin Fa lost his virtue, wouldn't it mean that the king lost his virtue, the previous kings lost his virtue, and the common people lost their virtue?" !"
Feng Jie's words made Xiong Qi and the others pale.
I dare not say this.
Li Si didn't take it seriously, and said: "The law does not tolerate virtue, and the law's faults. Virtue does not combine with the law, and the lack of virtue. Both virtue and law, lenient government and suspended sentences are the best way to govern the country. What is the virtue of the law? In being close to the people, In terms of protecting the people, today's Qin law is the most important, the punishment is too strict, the people have small faults, they often have tattoos on their faces and noses, and hard labor in ocher clothes. Despite the harshness, there is still humiliation. Therefore, the people of Yingchuan did not oppose the legal system, but opposed it. It's just a punishment of humiliation."
Li Si went on to say: "For example, if a person who abandons ashes to Taoism gets tattooed, it is a violation of the law and virtue. Therefore, the people complain. Li Si thought that if the king changed this punishment, it would be enough for the common people to throw away ashes and punish the city for three days. Why? It must be baked noodles, at this time, isn't the law to accommodate virtue, the king has both morality and law, and the law of the Shang Lord is not lost."
Li Sidao: "Your Majesty, the six kingdoms of Shandong talk a lot, and the people of Qin don't realize that they are ugly. From this, it can be seen that if Qin's law is applied to the former subjects of Shandong, there will inevitably be chaos. The lack of Qin law is not exactly the case, the lack of Qin law is too strict, it can be used for a short time, but not for a long time, only by maintaining the law and virtue, and using the law to rule the king, can the long-term great cause of the Great Qin be achieved."
After Su Jie heard Li Si's words, he couldn't help agreeing.
In history, many later generations have nostalgia for Qin's punishment.
That's why there was later the reuse of Confucianism.
This is all to avoid the same ending as Qin.
Li Si proposed the system of prefectures and counties, which has been in use for more than 2000 years. At this time, the legal system to govern the king is more like a national policy after a thousand years, and it is a policy for long-term prosperity.
However, Xiong Qi also changed color.
Didn't you say before that the king's way is lenient and the king's way is imperial? Why has it changed now?
However, this is not the time to be entangled, no matter what he is, as long as the state of Qin reforms, the state of Chu will have time.
Ying Zheng suddenly became thoughtful.
Although such a major event cannot be said with certainty, it is not difficult for him to feel the Shang Jun Dao contained in it.
Ying Zheng suddenly glanced at Su Jie, as if realizing something.
Wang Wan said loudly: "The veteran doesn't think so."
Li Si looked at Wang Wan and said, "This is an academic theory, but the prime minister just said it."
Wang Wandao: "Although the laws of Qin are strict, they do not lose their great virtue. The most important point is that princes and common people have the same law. The country has no laws outside the law, and the whole body has the same law. Therefore, there is no such thing as favoring the people, belittling the people, or not being close to the people." In fact, if the Qin law were to injure the common people alone, they would naturally lose their morality. Unfortunately, it is not true. Let’s talk about corporal punishment. Most of the Qin people cut their noses and tattooed their faces. But people have no complaints and fear the law. Besides, those who abandon ashes to Taoism have tattooed. Why did Chuan use punishment? If, as Ke Qing said, the punishment for dumping ashes is changed to three days in Chengdan, how can you know that the streets of Qin State will not be filthy?"
Feng Quji said: "Your Majesty, I agree with the Prime Minister's words, the legal system that Li Si said is the way of controlling the king, or the Confucianist saying that the rule of law is kingly and lenient, both have their roots, and they all have the way of kingship. However, the six kingdoms of Shandong once practiced it The kingly way, but what is the ending? Bribery, law enforcement favoritism, nobles escape the law, princes lynch, people dare not go to court, officials dare not enter the court to practice law, such a kingly way can only make the nobles have extrajudicial privileges, and the people are full. Being exploited by the law, what will happen in the end? In the countries of Shandong, the people are violent, and the people are like fire and water. If this is the case, where is the law and virtue? On the other hand, in the Qin state, the punishment is heavy and the law is the same.
Li Dun said immediately: "What you two said is different from what Li Si said!"
Wang Wan and Wang Wan looked at each other and asked, "What's the difference? Both are kings!"
Li Si said: "What you two said is kingly rule of the country, what Li Si said is kingly rule of law, only for Qin."
Wang Wan said: "Even for Qin, it doesn't make sense. Shang Jun's reforms were originally against thousands of years of kingly ways, and they became a paradigm for a strong country. If they ruled with a little bit of kingly ways, they would erode the foundation of Qin law, and Qin law will gradually disappear. invisible."
Pang Yi listened to the debate.
Suddenly, he winked at Yingxin.
Seeing this, Ying Xin walked out immediately and said, "Your Majesty, I don't understand the Qin government, but I know that if you practice the kingly way, it will be harmful to the soldiers of the Qin State."
"what?"
The most important part of the Qin State is the soldiers.
Ying Zheng was shocked when he heard the words, and asked, "What is the general referring to?"
Ying Xin went on to say: "Once the kingly way is practiced, then Qin's army of tigers and wolves will be the righteous soldiers mentioned by the kingly way. Whether it is the king or not the king, the law is not the law."
Ying Xin went on to say: "Although the royal way spoken by Ke Qing is only to rectify the strict laws of the Qin State, the laws of the Qin State run through the government and the public, and no one is out of the world. The strictness of the army is especially stricter than that of the common people. So according to what Ke Qing said, should I change it or not?"
Ying Zheng frowned suddenly.
He never thought of this link.
Pang Yi and the others glanced at Wang Wan, and when they saw Wang Wan, their expression relaxed a little.
Ying Xin said again: "Xunzi's kingly way, kingly way of righteous soldiers, righteous soldiers are known as the best medicine in the world, with the purpose of killing tyrants and invigorating the suffering people. However, it is righteous soldiers to punish tyranny without destroying the country. It is also a righteous soldier who destroys his country by conquering crimes. For example, Shang, Tang and Zhou Wu were also righteous soldiers. Then what was the destination of the soldiers in Daqin at that time? Was it just like Duke Huan of Qi who was only the overlord of the world's princes and allowed the king to abuse the law and torture the common people in Guanzhong? Let the division of the world remain the same, and never destroy a country? If the Great Qin raises troops to rule China, what kind of righteous soldiers and kingly way is this?"
Li Si listened to everyone's words.
At this moment, it is also in jeopardy.
When he was in the hall, no one spoke, but he saw that everyone was still looking at him.
Li Si couldn't help chuckling, and then said calmly and calmly: "The theory of righteous soldiers, one of the ways of warfare, is different from the general's talk about raising troops to seek the country. The Jin Dynasty and the transformation of the three Jin Dynasties are also righteous soldiers. Therefore, the theory of righteous soldiers does not involve the size of the military plan, but only the purpose of using the military. Looking at the Qin State, it is said that it is rich and powerful. Who in the world can be an enemy? , Li Si thinks that worrying about the sky is unfounded, and it is far-fetched, and it is not enough to care about it. If you are old-fashioned and seek the country, you can only use the current method, the superior method, to make the Qin country rich and powerful, and then everything can be discussed. Otherwise, the ambition of panic , to correct the old saying, suddenly Zhuang Zhou dreamed of a butterfly."
Immediately.
The hall was silent, and the sound of breathing was clearly audible.
Suddenly, a person came out from the crowd and said: "Could it be that Ke Qing's heart is to take Shang Jun and replace him?"
Chapter 675 Studying the book first and then the book of the law is a preparation for the law
Surprised at every word.
Even Ying Zheng couldn't help but look over in awe.
Xiong Qi and the others couldn't help looking over, only to see that the person who spoke was actually Marquis Wu.
All of a sudden, they felt uneasy.
But thinking about the attitude of Marquis Wu towards Confucianism before, it makes sense. At the beginning, this Li Si was Lu Buwei's disciple, and he was expelled from the mansion by Lu Buwei later. Lu Buwei reprimanded this person face to face, and then Lu Buwei chased Li Si angrily.
Later, everyone knew that Li Si seemed to have voted for Marquis Wu.
However, Marquis Wu did not reuse this person. It can even be said that he was useless at all. Instead, he was left idle. Later, when the king visited Marquis Wu, he took a fancy to Li Si, so Marquis Wu would leave him idle. Li Si brought it into the palace.
However, this is not the case in the eyes of everyone and in the eyes of Ying Zheng.
Although the Taifu didn't use Li Si, but the Taifu gave Li Si to himself, and said that he is a great talent, who can be reused after hardening.
Ying Zheng shrank suddenly.
Instinctively feel that there is a problem.
As soon as Su Jie opened his mouth, the rest of the people naturally stopped talking.
Xiong Qi and the others were even more terrified, fearing that Li Si would be scolded by Marquis Wu for vomiting blood again.
Because of Li Si's words, it is obvious that the king has already been tempted. As long as the king agrees, the big thing will be done.
How can Wuhou ruin the good things of Chu State.
Xiong Qi suddenly said: "Marquis Wu, Li Si thinks of Qin every word, is this too harsh?"
Li Si's face turned red as well, as if he was a little afraid, then he gritted his teeth and said, "Marquis Wu, Li Si definitely has no such intentions!"
Su Jie laughed and said, "You want to change Qin's laws, why do you say you have no intention of doing so?"
Li Si said: "Li Si never intends to replace Shang Jun, and no one intends to abolish Shang Jun's laws. Li Si's proposition is only to make Da Qin's rule of law more in line with the people's hearts, and more beneficial to long-term plans. That's all, please be careful with Wuhou."
Xiong Qi turned to Ying Zheng and said, "Your Majesty, Li Si once told the ministers that this time it cannot be called a reform, let alone amend the Qin Law, but if it supplements disaster relief, promotes literature, promotes business, and filial piety, If Your Majesty relaxes all criminal laws by three points, the law of strengthening Qin created by Lord Shang can be perfected, and the law of Qin can become a paradigm for strengthening the country. This is based on Lord Shang, so how can it replace Lord Shang?"
After hearing this, Su Jie snorted coldly and said, "So that's the case! Since that's the case, I won't say much."
Everyone also saw that Su Jie was very dissatisfied with Li Si, but Li Si's words couldn't find any thorns.
and.
At this time, when everyone heard Xiong Qi's supplement, they immediately looked at each other!
added.
And it is above disaster relief, prosperity, merchants, and filial piety.
Ying Zheng waved his hand and said: "You don't need to talk about it anymore. The disadvantages of the Qin law are gradually revealed. This is true. However, I also think that the way of Shang Jun is indeed to change. However, when Qin is weak , can become stronger. Nowadays, when a country is strong, strong reforms will turn it from strong to weak. This is what I deeply believe. From this point of view, then Li Si, how can you eliminate my worries? If you don’t get rid of this concern, Never change."
Ying Zheng finished speaking.
The local courtiers of Qin State nodded and said, "Your Majesty is wise!"
Xiong Qi's face suddenly became extremely embarrassed.
How to eliminate their worries, if it can be done, they don't have to argue here with red faces.
But Li Si took a step forward and said, "Your Majesty, I have a solution."
"hiss……"
Xiong Qi asked in a low voice in shock but excitedly, "Li Si!"
Including Su Jie, everyone looked at Li Si, even Ying Zheng couldn't help but look sideways. Is Li Si really determined to fight against Marquis Wu?
Ying Zheng immediately asked, "Speak!"
Li Sidao: "For many days, the princes have been arguing for a long time about whether to reform the law, but from Li Si's point of view, they all hit the point."
Wang Wan said: "Hmph, Ke Qing thinks, Marquis Wu, we are not as good as you?"
Not to be outdone, Xiong Qi said: "Your Majesty has something to say, and there is nothing you can't talk about. The Prime Minister's words may be suspected of jealousy."
"you!!?"
Li Dun immediately said: "Your Majesty, according to the facts, the laws of Qin should be changed. Your Majesty is well aware of this. Moreover, the princes also said that the mistakes of the Shang Lord should not be corrected. Now that all the princes know When Shangjun also made mistakes, why can’t those mistakes be corrected? However, as the king said, the current situation of the world will not tolerate the prosperity of the purpose and forceful reform! When you are filial to the public and the Shangjun, the great powers stand side by side and restrict each other. Gaining time for reform can not only use force internally, but also prevent other countries from interfering."
"However, today's situation is very different from that at that time. Qin is a strong and dominant country. It can be said that it is already the target of public criticism. Once there is chaos in the forceful reform, Yan Qichu, who is still alive, will inevitably come to kill him. At that time, he will be the Qin in the mouth of the public. A century of prosperity and strength will be destroyed in one day."
Ying Zheng and the officials nodded their heads!
Ying Zheng said: "What the guest said is true."
Li Si said again: "Since this is the case, if you can't be strong, and you must avoid Qin Fa's own mistakes, why not consider detours and gradual changes?"
"Backward gradient?"
Xiong Qi's heart skipped a beat, Li Si's words now changed in a roundabout way.
Isn't it the reform and probation that the negative cud talked about.
The two are almost the same! !
Li Si continued: "The so-called roundabout and gradual change is to start with the addition and revision of laws and regulations, and make a long-term plan for reform. Such practical difficulties cannot be solved by vain high-level theory. Only by observing the current situation can we see the shortcomings of Qin law. "
now.
Li Si's words, so that the local ministers of Qin did not come out to stop him.
Li Si's words are very clear, how to reform, look at the current situation, for example, Yingchuan is the current situation, something bad happened, and Qin Fa's mistakes were exposed.
On the basis of not violating Qin law, it should be amended.
Ying Zheng asked: "This statement is reasonable, but with the current state of Qin, Ke Qing dares to list the actions to delay the revision of the law, let you listen to it."
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