Although he had said this before coming here, Zhou Yi could clearly see that Grandma Liu was frightened.

"That...expert, what should I do now? Surgery won't work, should I take medicine?"

"It can't be said that taking medicine can really cure it, but now, I can just recommend our set of medicine to you. It contains ginseng, antler, cordyceps and many other precious Chinese medicines. It is very effective for your symptoms. Well, if you eat a few sets like this, you won't need surgery."

Expert Shen took out a set of products while he was talking, and someone from Zhou took a look, and found that it was similar to Grandma Liu's previous set, and the design seemed to have changed a little.

Seeing that Grandma Liu seemed to want to buy it again, Zhou Yi shook his head, and was about to say something when he saw Fang Dazhuang stepping forward to stop her.

"Wait, this expert Shen, you just said that as long as you take your... medicine, you can cure the disease, so you don't need surgery, right?" Fang Dazhang stepped forward with a smile on his face.

Expert Shen on the opposite side frowned, looked at the sudden bald man, and said vaguely: "Strictly speaking, we can't call it a medicine. It is really good for the body after taking it."

"Hey, Expert Shen, didn't you just say that it's a medicine, why is it not a medicine now, and you said that you don't need surgery after taking it, so it means it can cure diseases, why has it changed again?" Fang Da said His face was full of puzzlement.

Zhou Yi almost couldn't hold back his laughter. Whether he should talk or not, Fang Daxiang's acting skills can really kill those stars in seconds.

Looking at the expression on his face now, it seems that someone who has heard the inconsistency is asking a question.

So Expert Shen didn't get angry directly, but said in a louder voice: "Look, these are all professional things, you don't understand, we are not medicine in the strict sense, but it has the effect of medicine, you know?"

"But you just said clearly that this is medicine, everyone heard it!"

The voice of Fang Dazhuang's words was very loud, and many old people had noticed it, and they all nodded when they heard the words.

One of the old people said, "Yes, expert, I also heard you say that this is medicine, so after taking this, do you need to have surgery?"

"You don't even understand..."

But before the expert finished speaking, he was interrupted by Fang Dazhuang: "Then you can talk first, if you don't say anything, just say that we don't understand, that must be unreasonable."

There was a quarrel here, and the other experts beside him and Mr. Zhao of the company had noticed it and hurried over.

"Wang Rui, is this the client you brought? What's the matter?" Mr. Zhao asked in a low voice.

In the front, the expert Shen was obviously angry.

"Are you a doctor or am I a doctor? I'm here for a free clinic. If you ask me any more, I won't read it!"

After a pause, he said to the other old people: "Be kind as a donkey's liver and lungs. I'm here to help you see a doctor. Why do you support these people? Just keep asking? Let me talk first, I'll just stay here for a few hours. When it's over, go back to Shanghai, and when you don't have a doctor, don't look for me again!"

After saying this, the other old people became anxious immediately, and some old people shouted directly: "What are you young people doing, you don't see a doctor and avoid it, we still need to see it, and you will show me if you leave the expert? "

"That's right, get out of here!"

Wang Rui also stepped forward and hurriedly said, "Mr. Shen, please don't be angry."

After finishing speaking, he turned to Zhou Yi and said, "Mr. Zhou, and Mr. Fang, what are you doing? The experts provide free medical treatment, and they are senior experts from UBS Hospital..."

Wang Rui was interrupted by Fang Dazhang before he finished speaking. He didn't talk to those old people at all, but said, "So it's an expert from Ruixi Hospital, which is the top hospital in our country!"

Expert Shen said with a strange tone in his mouth: "You still know."

Mr. Zhao who was next to him also came up and said, "What are you doing? The experts here are kind and well-intentioned, and they are still asking here and there, wasting everyone's time. If we do this again, we will call the police!"

Fang Dazhuang smiled, and then hurriedly said: "I'm sorry, sorry, I'm really sorry, occupational disease, let's get out of the way."

Zhou Yi and Grandma Liu were in a daze when they saw the sincere attitude.

Fortunately, with this obstruction, Grandma Liu finally did not buy the so-called "medicine".

As soon as they got out of the way, the people behind couldn't wait to step forward and let him start seeing a doctor.

"Fang Dazhuang, what shall we do now?"

"Continue to collect evidence. I thought they should be just civil fraud, but after this contact, the situation is a bit serious!"

"You mean...they might be involved in fraud?"

Fang Dazhuang didn't answer directly, but just turned his head and looked around, and said in an inexplicable tone: "When I was in Shanghai, I did similar criminal defense for related health care products companies. At that time... I did it for them It was a defense of innocence, and in the end it was indeed not guilty."

"During that time, I was a bit like the pure legal creature we talked about when we chatted, digging out all the laws, picking out all the words, looking for arguments in many ways, and firmly believed that what I did was everything. That's right!"

"Law, yes, at that time, I thought that if you don't violate the law, you are a good person. For example, this kind of health care product fraud, I would not consider other things at that time. I only think that this kind of defense is a good opportunity to show what I have learned. !"

"Every time I get an acquittal, I'm happy for a long time."

Following Fang Dazhuang's narration, Zhou Yi finally understood why Fang Dazhuang would do this for free.

Is Fang Dazhuang a good person?Not necessarily, he was able to achieve such a big name in Shanghai when he was young, and he was still famous for his criminal defense. If he said he was a good guy, he probably didn't believe Fang Dazhuang himself.

Fang Dazhuang said before that there is nothing wrong with calling him a "litigation stick". He is the purest legal creature, and everything is measured by the law.

Until now, Fang Dazhuang is not a normal person, he is still so paranoid, but he uses this energy in another direction.

"The law, especially the criminal law, protects the majority of people by punishing a group of people. It's a pity...forget it, let's not talk about these useless things, I will tell you how to fix the evidence now!"

"In the past, I have studied for a long time how the case-handling agency would define civil fraud and criminal fraud of health products, and studied their conviction ideas. There are many, many studies..."

"So now, I just need to reverse that process, and fix all the arguments I thought of at the time, and I can be convicted without their confession!"

For Fang Dazhuang, the evidence is already sufficient to simply determine civil fraud.

But it is not enough to be identified as criminal fraud.

In his words, civil fraud and criminal fraud of health products have many things in common.

For example, they all committed deceit, which caused misunderstandings and misunderstandings to the other party, and then caused economic losses to the other party.

These can actually be called "transactional fraud"!

And how to distinguish it depends on the foothold. The foothold of civil fraud is to "make money", while the foothold of criminal fraud is "to cheat money"!

"So, we need to find out the evidence that the other party hired a fake famous doctor, made a false diagnosis, exaggerated his condition, and sold health care products at a high price. The law will not wrong a good person, but we can't let a bad person go!"

"I'll see who else can argue this case!"

Chapter 321 Hey, hey, it was a flop

Fang Dazhuang was slowly talking about the difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud in health care products. This difference is not something you can see simply by looking at the article, but a top-notch senior who has been in the industry for many years. Summed up the experience.

Why is a criminal offense a criminal offense? It is very harmful and malicious. These are the reasons.

Therefore, at this time, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between civil fraud and criminal fraud, and the main regulations in this regard are the fraud clauses in the Criminal Law, the fraud clauses in the Civil Code, and the "On Handling Fraud" issued by the Supreme Law. Interpretation of Several Issues Concerning the Specific Application of Law in Criminal Cases".

In the judicial interpretation of the Supreme Law, it mainly focuses on the amount of the crime of fraud, the specific situation of each place, and the aggravating circumstances and other issues.

Therefore, when it comes to "transactional fraud" such as health product fraud, it is necessary to analyze specific cases to analyze whether these behaviors meet the constituent elements of the crime of fraud.

Zhou Yi has already started to collect relevant evidence according to Fang Dazhuang's instructions. According to Fang Dazhuang's classification, the first thing is to ask whether these relevant personnel will pretend to be authoritative experts from authoritative hospitals, research institutes, etc.!

This is a key behavior that constitutes the crime of health product fraud. Fraud and fraud, as far as we ordinary people think, you must have deceptive behavior, and this behavior is directly trying to cheat your money!

It must be an expert from these hospitals, otherwise some health consultants, or something else, in this case it is difficult for you to identify them as frauds.

Zhou Yi still remembered that he asked Fang Dazhang just now, why the identification was different because of the different identities.

Fang Dazhang spread his hands: "Why? Think about it carefully, the former is a fraud!"

Zhou suddenly understood...it was really simple.

Then there is whether these people have exaggerated during the inspection process!

No exaggeration, that's a normal behavior, it can't be considered a scam, but, you just cut the skin on your finger, and it might be healed if you go to the hospital later, he said that your injury is going to be amputated, you have to eat me Things, otherwise the problem is big, you say this is not a lie.

The next step is to exaggerate the efficacy of your own health care products. Of course, this may coincide with false publicity in civil affairs.

But in Fang Dazhuang's words, if he defends the health care product company, as long as what the other party says is ambiguous, he can defend it.

For example, words such as "radical cure" or "completely get rid of", this is a very typical death.

Of course, it doesn't necessarily need to be so strict. Now health care products companies have done a good job in speech training. No one dares to say that unless they have a brain problem.

The last two aspects are also common in civil fraud, such as creating a fake corporate reputation, saying that a certain official organization issued this to us, and using the official organization to endorse it.

What's more, it's selling this product many times more than the cost... In fact, this is the easiest way. These days, selling health care products does not have a gross profit of more than ten times. Who would do it.

It can be said that Fang Dazhuang directly dismantled and crushed the crime of fraud in health care products, but this does not mean that there are no subjective and objective elements that make people worry.

It really depends on the criminal law. The crime of fraud is such a sentence: the act of defrauding a large amount of public and private property by using deception for the purpose of illegal possession.

Don't say that ordinary people can't see anything about this sentence, even for a person with rich theoretical knowledge like Zhou Cainiao, it is not easy to understand.

Lawyers and doctors, these are professions that require a lot of experience.

So Zhou Yi made it important to collect and fix evidence in these areas.

In fact, it is also possible to call the police now, and the public security organs are naturally responsible for the investigation, but Fang Dazhuang will not do this.

Since he decided to let the other party eat prison food, he must eat it, and there must be no accidents!

Just as evidence was being collected, something happened next to it.

Walking over, I saw an old man with an egg in his hand, and said there: "Well, I really don't have any money. If you don't believe me, go and see my bank card. I can't afford it anymore. Don't tell me."

And there are two or three salesmen around the old man, and Mr. Zhao is also inside.

"It's okay, sir, it's okay if you don't have money. You see, we have loan companies here, all of which are low-interest loans. As long as you have decent collateral, you can get the loan soon. Then you can buy as much as you want." !” Mr. Zhao said with a chuckle.

Zhou Yi's fist hardened immediately when he heard that, health product loan... It's thanks to these people that they can really be ruthless.

They want to squeeze these old people dry!

Fang Dazhuang also had a very serious face, and said in a low voice: "The people I met before were not so conscientious, but now they are all starting to get loans for health care products, and let the elderly use their houses as mortgages!"

Zhou Yi couldn't help but stepped forward and said, "Mr. Zhao, I don't think you need a loan to buy health care products, just do what you can."

Mr. Zhao glanced at Zhou Yi when he heard the words, and his face suddenly showed displeasure: "Who are you, who is that, Wang Rui, let this person go out, we are also persuading the uncle to do what we can, and it is all voluntary." Well."

Zhou Yi looked at the old man and asked, "You always want to buy those health care products?"

The old man said: "I don't really want to buy it, mainly because I don't have the money. A loan is just a loan. I definitely can't borrow it. They won't let me go if I want to go."

Many people of the older generation are unwilling to borrow money, and they will hide away when they hear that they will give you a loan.

"Hey Mr. Zhao, look, they don't want to buy it, so why don't you let it go?"

Mr. Zhao's face sank immediately: "I didn't let you go, anyone can leave if they want, but they will be on our credit list, so don't even think about enjoying our free expert consultation and free travel in the future!"

"Wang Rui, let them go!"

Wang Rui and several salesmen came over, and Wang Rui said, "Mr. Zhou, you should go first."

Zhou Yi didn't speak, and Fang Dazhuang next to him suddenly said: "We can go, Wang Rui, right, and you salesmen, do you really think it's okay for them to do this?"

A salesman next to him said, "Then what's the matter? We are just part-time workers. We are salesmen. If the boss asks us to sell things, we will sell them. If there is something wrong with it, then all the salesmen in the world will have something to do."

Wang Rui also nodded and said, "That's right, what's the matter, it's just sales. Are you two leaving or not? If you don't, we'll call security!"

Fang Dazhuang smiled: "Let's go, we'll leave right away."

Immediately, Zhou Yi left the venue with a confused head.

The lecture was over, and it was a complete success. Mr. Zhao looked at the old ladies and old men carrying big and small bags of health care products, and the corners of his mouth burst into laughter.

"Let me tell you, it's better to earn money from old people. Look at these old people. They say they are not afraid of death. In fact, they are most afraid of death. You just need to tell them that you are sick and don't eat our food." If you can’t survive, they are more active than you!”

Sitting in the office, Mr. Zhao laughed loudly.

Next to them are those who pretend to be experts from UBS Hospital, who have already dragged on their white coats, laughing with them.

They also make money according to the share, otherwise why do you think they are so active.

"Old Zhao, you did a good job this time. Then the next focus of the sales department is to let our customers recommend the product to other elderly people. Be careful, try not to let them talk to young people."

On the chief seat of the office, another man in his 40s spoke.

He is the boss of Tiancheng Company, Huang Tiancheng.

"Our customer base is still too small, and we must continue to expand. For the elderly, the little money in your hand is saved anyway, so it is better to buy our products."

In a word, the office is full of joy again.

Shen Daxing, the previous expert Shen, said a little worriedly: "Mr. Zhao, and Mr. Huang, those two people who argued with me today, I don't think they are good people."

"Could something go wrong?"

Mr. Zhao shook his head and said: "Then what's the problem? We are a regular health care product company. Our products are all certified and we pay taxes. Is there any problem?"

"Which health care product company here in Jingzhou is not like this? Their operation is more daring than ours, and they are not afraid of it. What are we afraid of? At most, they will be fined a little money or need to lose money, and the company will go bankrupt."

This is not a problem for them at all.

These days, there are many people who go bankrupt and still enjoy themselves. The classics are like nweilou. Look at the developer company going bankrupt, what kind of life the boss lives, and what kind of life you live.

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