Han Dao world

Liu Xie leaned on the voucher and listened to their argument.

This is a good opportunity to observe their character and potential.

Zhou Yu and Jiang Gan sat on the side, listening to the debate, while quietly looking at Liu Xie.

What Pang Tong, Cui Yan and others argued about had already been discussed on the road.The group in Beijiang realized that in order to maintain the stability of the Central Plains, they must push the front line northwards until Mobei.But how to achieve this goal, they also did not find the answer.

Too far.The consumption of transporting grain from the Central Plains to Mobei is too high.

Of course, those who have experienced the northern border are not without ideas, otherwise they would not be sitting here.

After a heated discussion for a while, Zhou Yu stood up.When everyone saw it, they immediately shut their mouths, and the big tent that was originally full of people fell silent.

Liu Xie's eyes turned to Zhou Yu, with a smile on his lips.

"What advice do you have?"

Zhou Yu cupped his hands and saluted. "Your Majesty, I'm not inconsiderate in listening to the opinions of the princes. It's just that they all overlooked one point. I dare to remind them to pay attention."

Liu Xie nodded and signaled Zhou Yu not to be polite, it's okay to speak up.

It was the first time for Zhou Yu to attend such a meeting, and he was still somewhat restrained.Pang Tong and others have long been old fritters, even if it is a debate in front of the imperial court, they will speak out when they are excited.

Zhou Yu turned to the crowd and cupped his hands again. "Your lords follow the example of the battle and don't defend Huo. Wei Huo ran rampant in Mobei, and his name is indeed immortal. But Wei Huo was 300 years ago after all. When discussing the war in Mobei, you seem to think more about You Yandu Protectorate and Yanran Protectorate, especially the wolf riders under Yanran Protectorate."

"Wolf rider...what's the matter?" Cui Yan asked puzzled.

"Yanran's Protectorate's Mansion only has [-] cavalry, and the consumption in the north is not as great as imagined. The harvest from the fields in Wuyuan and Shuofang is already enough to support the [-] cavalry."

Zhou Yu asked Liu Xie for instructions, walked to the map, pointed out the location of Wuyuan and Shuofang, and then changed the circle around it to include Yanran Mountain.

"There are excellent weapons, strong outside, loyal and strong inside, the battle of these [-] cavalry is not inferior to the army of Weihuo back then. The wolf cavalry has brought into play the essence of Huo Piao Yao's galloping thousands of miles, and ran wild in Mobei with a mere hundred cavalry , so that the voices of the barbarians in the north of Mobei changed, and the children stopped crying."

His finger moved forward, across the four Hexi counties, and finally landed in the west of the Western Regions.

"Although this area is not as good as the Central Plains, it is close to Wuyuan and Shuofang. If we can take the Yanran Dufu Mansion as an example, we can farm on the spot and support [-] elites so that the wolves can go far away. It is not impossible to protect the commercial road. Even if the local The output is slightly insufficient and needs the support of the Central Plains, and the quantity is extremely limited."

Zhou Yu smiled. "Therefore, it is neither possible nor necessary to transport grain from the East China Sea for dozens of minutes to one stone. The real key to the problem is how to make these [-] cavalry have enough combat power, so as not to be defeated by the lack of combat power. And gradually increase the number of troops, until the local farmland can no longer supply, and has to rely on the support of the Central Plains."

Someone asked: "Didn't you just say that having excellent military equipment strengthens the outside, while loyalty and righteousness strengthen the inside? Isn't that enough?"

Zhou Yu looked back at the man. "Whether the military equipment is superior or not depends on the gap between the two sides. With the opening of the frontier army and the widening of exchanges, the weapons and armor of the Central Plains will be spread to the Central Plains sooner or later. It is also inseparable from His Majesty's border patrols. If His Majesty hadn't come to Xiu Tuze in person, how could he have returned to his heart like this? But as time passed, as these soldiers who fought with His Majesty gradually aged, the loyalty of the frontier troops to the imperial court also fade away."

Zhou Yu paused, and then said: "Yes, I think the key is how to ensure that these two advantages do not diminish over time. For now, this problem has not yet become prominent. But a gentleman must have If you are prepared, it may be too late when the problem arises and is resolved.”

Yu Fan stroked his beard and smiled slightly. "Zhou Lang is worthy of being Zhou Lang. The group outside the Great Wall saw the world, and this knowledge has also advanced to another level. I said that although there are hundreds of disciples in the martial arts hall, such talents are rare. After much deliberation, only the first The expected Huang Zimei Shu is almost the same."

Lu Yi looked at Zhou Yu with a strange look in his eyes.

Liu Xie clapped his hands and smiled. "Jijiu is right. Whether it is Zhou Gongjin or Huang Zimei, they are all rare talents. Intelligence is rare, but hard work is even more difficult. Just as a sword needs a lot of training, so is talent. I think there should be a rule in the martial arts hall. After graduating in the future, they should go to the frontier army to train for three years."

"Wei." Yu Fan bowed and said, "It's better to start from this session. After ten years, maybe someone will be available."

Liu Xie turned his attention to Cui Yan. "Cui Jigui, do you think so?"

Cui Yan thought for a while, then cupped his hands and said, "I agree, and I am willing to serve in the frontier army."

Liu Xie nodded. "Very good. After you have completed the relevant theoretical courses, you will go to the Yanran Dufu Mansion as a trainee."

"Wei!" Cui Yan bowed again and returned to his seat with a calm expression.

Everyone looked at each other.

This is to dislike Cui Yan and drive him to the frontier army.Or did he value him so much that he was hand-picked as a trainee in the frontier army?

Liu Xie tapped his finger on the case a few times. "Gentlemen, if you have any opinions on what Gongjin just said, you may wish to speak freely."

Chapter 866 different opinions

Zhou Yu's problem is actually two problems: one is how to maintain the technical advantage, and the other is how to maintain the spiritual advantage.

The former problem is relatively easy to solve. Although the scale of the Taixue halls and lecture halls is not large, the trend has already formed. As the efficiency brought by technology gradually appears, more and more scholars will inevitably give up Confucianism. If you switch to practical studies such as wood science and agronomy, your advantages will become greater and greater.

The latter problem is more difficult to solve.

Matters such as spirit and will are invisible and intangible, and the scale is difficult to grasp.It is impossible to define how much enlightenment can play.You say it works, and he says it doesn't work, both seem to make sense.

The only visible way seems to be to let the emperor go to the frontier every few years.

Not to mention whether it is feasible or not, and how effective it will be, no one can say for sure.

Liu Xie watched the crowd arguing with a calm expression.

He knew that there would be no results in the short-term discussion, but as long as the discussion started, it was a good start.

These people will all be sent out in the future.They are the seeds he sowed, and one day they will germinate, and some will even grow into towering trees.

Just like Yang Xiu back then.

"Hmm." A slightly exaggerated voice sounded from the corner, which immediately attracted all the attention. Countless eyes turned to the corner and landed on a young man's face.

The young man stood up, flicked his big sleeves, lazily, as if he had just woken up.

Liu Xie glanced at it and cheered up.

Mi Heng is outstanding in talent and learning, but he was unlucky and missed the opportunity when the servant of Sanqi didn't take the martial arts test, so he missed the opportunity of Sanqi.Now he is just an ordinary Shang Shulang, responsible for the handover of official documents with Situ Mansion and the publication of mansion newspapers.On such occasions, he generally does not speak.

I actually got interested today, and it is rare to take the initiative to speak.

"Education is difficult to say. This dynasty has raised scholars for a hundred years, and everyone knows what they have raised. It is easy to say. Yang Dezu is in Hanyang, and Qianghu is active in the army. They are not far behind my Han people. The key is where?"

Mi Heng looked around and asked another question. "Where is the key?"

"It's where you say it is." A person whispered.

Mi Heng turned his head in an instant and followed the prestige, but he couldn't find anyone.

Everyone looked at him seriously.

Apparently that person also knew that Mi Heng was not easy to mess with, so he hid after complaining.

"Fame and profit." Mi Heng said word by word: "Expedition to Mobei, thousands of miles to attack, do you think you are sitting here bragging, and then go home to eat after bragging? That is very hard, and you will die. There is no fame and fortune. , who is willing to take this risk? Are you willing? Are you willing?"

Mi Heng pointed at a few people.Although those people were flushed and looked disdainful to argue with Mi Heng, they had to admit that not everyone had the courage.

"You all talk about Wei Huo, but you sneer at today's Wei Huo." You Heng sneered: "If Marquis Wen was here, would you regard him as a pillar of the imperial court and respect him from the bottom of your heart? Would you invite him to visit?" Yan, will you make friends with him? No, you won’t. In your eyes, he will always be a rebellious official like Dong Zhuo, even if he has made atonement for his crimes and has been pardoned by the court.”

Mi Heng turned around and pointed at Zhou Yu and Jiang Gan. "They traveled thousands of miles and came back day and night. After taking a bath, you didn't have time to tie your hair. You look at them with disdain and treat them as barbarians. If they return from the battle, covered in blood, with lice in their hair, and fleas on their bodies, you Can you still sit with them and have a drink and chat? You can't do it."

You Heng sneered. "There is no respect for generals, let alone ordinary soldiers. Do you think that the court won the hearts of Bingliang soldiers because the emperor patrolled the border? Wrong. If you don't spend the land, let Bingliang soldiers have a place to stand, even if It doesn't help that the Son of Heaven has been living in Xiu Tuze."

Mi Heng finally looked at Cui Yan and snorted disdainfully. "You still want to serve in the frontier army? You can farm a beautiful house after reading a few books, but they are born and die but have no place to stand, and you still expect them to protect you? What a whimsical idea."

After Mi Heng finished speaking, he shook his sleeves, sat down again, and closed his eyes again.

Everyone looked at each other, embarrassed.

Especially Cui Yan.

Everyone knows that he actually opposed the emperor's use of force to pacify Jizhou and force the land to be saved.He is willing to serve in the frontier army, not only for the self-interest of the family, but also to speak out for Jizhou.

But Mi Heng's words punctured his little thoughts and unrealistic fantasies.

Dutian is the basis for Bingliang soldiers to return to their hearts.You are a person who opposes Dutian, and you still want to get the support of the frontier soldiers?

Liu Xie coughed, breaking the embarrassment. "You Zhengping, although your point of view is biased, it has some new ideas. You might as well write it into an article so that more people can participate in the discussion."

"Wei." You Heng cupped his hands, without even opening his eyes.

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The meeting didn't end until the beginning of the Xu hour.

Cai Yan withdrew, took Yuan Heng and others back to the account, and sorted out the records overnight.

Liu Xie was a little excited and left Zhuge Liang behind.

He wanted to chat with Mi Heng, but before the meeting was over, Mi Heng left on the pretext of changing clothes and never came back.It is estimated that the discussion of these people is not new, and I am too lazy to listen.

"Kong Ming, why didn't you speak today?"

Zhuge Liang smiled. "Everything I can think of has already been said, so why bother repeating it."

"for example?"

"For example, what You Zhengping said is that land-saving is the foundation. Generals still have the hope of becoming marquises and worshiping generals, but ordinary soldiers have no such possibility. If you can't implement land-duty, trying to get soldiers to return to their hearts is tantamount to asking for fish after a tree."

Liu Xie nodded.

Zhuge Liang is a sensible person, but he is too good at being a man, not as unscrupulous as Mi Heng.

He should have realized this earlier, but he never said it.If it wasn't for Mi Heng to speak out today, and he expressed his approval of Mi Heng in public, Zhuge Liang would still not have said it.

This is not necessarily his objection to Du Tian, ​​but more likely to avoid being the target of public criticism.

After all, there are many scholar-officials who oppose Dutian, and for a long time to come, the main body of officials will still be scholar-bureaucrats.He has become the public enemy of scholar-bureaucrats, and he will struggle in officialdom.

Mi Heng doesn't want to be an official, at least he doesn't want to be a political official like the prefect, so he has no scruples.

Zhuge Liang can't.If he wanted to become a pillar, he had to start with a political official like the county magistrate and work his way up to Situ and Sikong step by step.

Liu Xie pondered: "Kong Ming, I have never heard you say a similar point of view."

Zhuge Liangliang nodded. "Your Majesty, I have a slightly different point of view from Mi Heng."

Liu Xie's eyes flashed. "tell me the story."

Zhuge Liangliang nodded. "I agree that saving land is the basis for returning home, but I don't think saving land can solve all problems. The output of farming is limited, and even though the people work hard, the savings are still not much. Once there is a natural or man-made disaster, they can only sell their land to survive. Dutian can only solve a temporary emergency, but cannot maintain long-term stability."

Liu Xie stared at Zhuge Liang's eyes. "How can we achieve long-term peace and stability?"

Zhuge Liang was silent for a long time. "Land trading is prohibited. If you want to sell it, you can only sell it to the imperial court."

Chapter 867 Handan toddler

Liu Xie looked at Zhuge Liang, and didn't speak for a long time, unable to tell whether he was excited or uneasy.

It is good to recognize the flaws of the New Deal, but this solution is too radical.

He also knows that Du Tian treats the symptoms but not the root cause.Without the basis of state ownership of land, land mergers will happen sooner or later.But prohibiting the sale of land, or only selling it to the court, will not solve the problem either.

One is that doing so is too risky.

Wang Mang once thought about state-owned land, and he used the restoration of the well field system as an excuse, but he failed in the end.No reason is good enough if you can't balance the pros and cons.The aristocratic family will never willingly hand over the land in their hands just because the well field system is an ancient system.

The second is not necessary.

Even though the current big man has many problems, he is still a well-deserved powerful country in this era. There is no danger of being surrounded by powerful enemies and subjugating the country and species.

Just as the refusal of the Hedong family to hand over the land is really unpleasant, but Hedong is still developing, but the speed is not as expected.

If there is no accident, in another two to three decades, this problem may disappear on its own.

Liu Xie thought about it and calmed down. "When did you have this idea? I haven't heard you say it."

Zhuge Liang bowed and said: "I recently read "Wang Mang Biography" and reflected on his gains and losses. I feel that although his actions are absurd, some of his ideas are still reasonable, especially resisting mergers. Mergers are the source of disaster. It is difficult to achieve long-term stability. However, there is too much resistance to directly returning the land to the imperial court. A few days ago, after reviewing Chen Liuren’s government strategy, I suddenly thought that since land transactions are inevitable, it is better to prohibit private transactions and let the imperial court buy them.”

Liu Xie was stunned. "Then like Cao Cao farming the fields?"

"Yes. But the tax can't be so high, otherwise the people will not be willing to farm. I think that it should be within eleven, which is slightly higher than the tax, and far lower than the exploitation of the big clan, so that the people have a choice."

Liu Xie nodded slightly.

Speaking carefully, Zhuge Liang considered it very carefully, and it was not a whim.

The land was sold to the imperial court and then handed over to the common people for cultivation. In fact, it was contracted to households in later generations.

Set the rent at [-]%, which is higher than the [-]% of the self-owned land tax and [-]% lower than the [-]% of the rich family. Unable to compete for labor.

If it can persist for decades, perhaps most of the land will be owned by the state.

"Where did the court get so much money?" Liu Xie asked a fundamental question.

Redemption requires money, and a lot of money at that.

"Your Majesty, most of the people who want to sell the land are poor people, and they have probably owed taxes to the court for many years. Exempting them from taxes is enough to pay for the value of the land. Even if it costs money, it won't be much, and the money must be used The purchase of necessary materials such as grain, salt and iron will soon be returned to the imperial court. The imperial court can even exchange grain, salt and iron directly."

Looking at Zhuge Liang who was talking eloquently, Liu Xie smiled.

Zhuge Liang made this suggestion to him after careful preparation.Zhuge Liang should be prepared for the questions he thought of.Whether it can be done, I dare not guarantee it, at least it will work on paper.

Otherwise Zhuge Liang wouldn't say it.

"Kong Ming, choose a county to try?"