He has also considered this issue.

Although he is also a party member, he does not agree with Zhang Jian's approach.One is that the murder was too rash, and the other is that the escape involved too much, which not only caused too much loss to the Confucianism, but also aroused the vigilance of the emperor.

The rise of the party has a great relationship with this matter.

Emperor Xiaohuan, who was originally tolerant of the scholars' discussion of politics, found that the scholars formed a clique and could ignore the laws of the court, regardless of his own safety, and cover a murderer who fled from the fortress thousands of miles away. He felt deep fear and turned to the party members. Crack down hard.

When the party was imprisoned, the hatred between the emperor and the party members became deeper and deeper, gradually becoming incompatible.

Realizing that the conversation between himself and the Son of Heaven might intensify at the very beginning, Xun Yu swallowed the insulting words and deliberately softened his tone. "So Your Majesty insists on ruling the country by law, and every law must be obeyed?"

"Of course." Liu Xie lowered his head slightly and softened his tone. "What is the law? The law is an agreement between the imperial court and the subjects of the world. Since it is an agreement, it should be abided by and cannot be easily broken. If people have no faith and cannot stand, how can the country be safe? It is not impossible to use the law to respond to the law. But it’s probably unrealistic for you to expect that there will be no price at all.”

He paused for a moment, giving his attitude clearly. "So, as far as this matter is concerned, I respect Li Ying, but I don't agree with Zhang Jian."

Xun Yu breathed a sigh of relief.

Li Ying is the leader of the Ruying party, and the emperor expressed his approval of Li Ying in front of him, which is to show his attitude.

Although his recognition of Li Ying only refers to this matter.

"What if there is a law that is not followed, or there is a bad law?"

"These are two problems: if there are laws that are not followed, it is enough to deal with those who do not follow the laws according to the law. If there are bad laws, it will be more troublesome."

"How troublesome?"

"The first problem is how to define the law as an evil law? The second problem is how to correct the evil law so that the old evil can be eliminated and no new evil can be created. There is no way to govern the country if there are laws that are not followed.”

Xun Yu blushed, but pretended not to hear.

The words of the Son of Heaven are obviously a variation of "The records of states and counties are like thunderbolts. The imperial edict is obtained, but it is hung on the wall".

It is also one of the vices of party members that the emperor hates that local officials exercise power and ignore imperial edicts.Zong Cheng was implicated in the escape and returned to the case, and was severely punished by being exiled to the Western Regions. This is a manifestation of the will of the emperor and a warning to the party members.

It should be said that this warning played a role.Situ and Sikong jointly convened relevant personnel to discuss the matter, which was triggered by this case.

The Son of Heaven knew his intentions, so he spoke bluntly, and hoped that he could convey this meaning to everyone, so that they would not have unrealistic fantasies.

But not without saying, the emperor's point of view is cautious.

The state owns the state law, and the family has family rules.The family rules cannot be changed easily, how can the laws of the country be trifled with, and changed as soon as they are said?

Whether it is a bad law or not cannot be easily concluded.Be more cautious when amending the law.

"Dare to ask Your Majesty, how can we avoid evil laws?"

"In my opinion, evil laws cannot be generalized." Liu Xie relaxed his body, leaned on the back of the seat, and rested his forehead with his hands. "Some laws are inherently evil, and they were enacted to do evil. Such laws should not exist. Even if it is a matter of urgency, it should be dismissed as soon as the mission is completed, otherwise it will definitely backfire."

"for example?"

"For example, Shang Yang's farming war."

Xun Yu held his breath, and after a while, he let it out gently, with a smile on his face.

It is undoubtedly good news that the Son of Heaven does not approve of Legalism.

In any case, no one wants the great Han to repeat the same mistakes as the Qin Dynasty.Many people oppose the rule of law, not against the law in essence, but against the Qin law.

If what the Son of Heaven said about ruling the country by law was ruling the country by Qin law, then he would fight for it even if he was desperate.

"Other than that, what kind of evil law is there?"

"Times have changed, things have changed, and the law no longer adapts to the situation." Liu Xie turned to look at Xun Yu, with a smile on the corner of his mouth. "For example, the punishment should not be punished by a doctor, and the courtesy should not be given to an ordinary person. Such a rule may have its value in the Spring and Autumn Period of Shiqing Shilu, but now it is not the Spring and Autumn Period. The prince broke the law and committed the same crime as the common people, let alone a doctor."

Xun Yu reminded embarrassingly: "Your Majesty, not being punished by a doctor is not the privilege of a doctor, but a manifestation of the courtesy of the monarch and his ministers. A scholar can be killed but not humiliated. If a scholar breaks the law, the king can give him death, but not humiliation."

"I agree that scholars can be killed but not humiliated. But it is not only scholars who cannot be humiliated, but also ordinary people. The four peoples are all scholars, and the world is a public. How can we divide officials and ordinary people and treat them differently? Naturally, they should be treated equally. Mr. Xun When discussing matters with the princes of the Second Mansion, you may wish to present my point of view for discussion."

He paused for a moment, emphasizing his tone. "I think Mr. Xun also understands the result of Wang Mang's reversion to the past. We should not repeat the same mistakes. If we want to discuss new laws, we should open up the pattern, get rid of prejudices, and not be self-indulgent. We should go around in the small circle designated by the sages and come up with a set of rules." It seems to be high-sounding, but in fact it cannot be enforced."

"Wei." Xun Yu bowed to accept the order.

Chapter 1151

While the two were talking, someone tapped on the wall of the car.

Liu Xie opened the car window a slit, revealing half of the boy boy He Yan's face.

"Your Majesty, the Yinfang is coming soon."

"Understood." Liu Xie closed the car window and said to Xun Yu, "We'll get out of the car earlier and enter through the side door, trying not to disturb other people. The Yinfang is expanding recently, and the side door cannot be used for driving."

Xun Yu nodded and temporarily interrupted the topic.

The car stopped, and the two got out of the car. Guided by two maids who came to welcome them, they passed the side door and entered the backyard of Yinfang.Except for Xun Wenqian's mother and daughter, only Shi A and another swordsman on scattered horses followed, and the others and their chariots and horses all left far away.

Mrs. Tang was waiting in the backyard. When they met, she bowed and pleaded guilty to Liu Xie.

Liu Xie waved his hand. "Sister-in-law is the owner of the Yinfang, so guests can do whatever they want, as it should be."

Mrs. Tang was a little embarrassed.No matter how you listen to it, Liu Xie's words are a bit angry.

Others can be guests as they please, but the emperor is no ordinary guest.Even if it does not rise to the height of "Under the Putian, could it be the land of the king", as far as Yinfang is concerned, the emperor is the real master.

From the original proposal to the subsequent operation, the emperor is the driving force behind it.

Among other things, without the two stable businesses of Dibao and textbooks, she may not be able to run better than other printing workshops.Without the backing of the emperor, she would not be able to invite Wang Can and others to hold a book recommendation meeting.

"Your Majesty's words make my concubines ashamed."

Just as Liu Xie was about to say more, Xun Wenqian smiled and said, "Sister-in-law, don't worry about these things, and arrange a seat as soon as possible. The guests will come later, and it's inappropriate for you to not show up."

Madam Tang blushed.

When Xun Wenqian gets along with her, she has always been called her aunt by the relationship of the mother's family, but now she is called sister-in-law by the relationship of the husband's family. Of course, it is to put the emperor before the father's family, but also to remind her that the emperor treats her not only It is the relationship between the monarch and his ministers, and there are family factors.

"Your Majesty, please."

Mrs. Tang walked sideways and led Liu Xie and others to the prepared private room upstairs.There are carved window ribs here, so you can overlook the entire hall without worrying about being seen by people downstairs.

Mrs. Tang also said that in order to deceive people and prevent people from guessing that the emperor was here, she invited the female relatives of several families and arranged them in the opposite room.The two rooms are far apart, so as long as you don't speak loudly, no one can hear what's going on inside.

"Whose family do they all belong to?" Xun Wenqian asked.

"The widow of the former Taiwei Zhang Wen, the wives of the Lou Chuan school captain Lou Gui and the false school captain Huang Zhong, the wife of Zhang Ji, a famous doctor in Nanyang Herbal Medicine Hall, and the wife of He Xian, the treasurer of Baicao Hall..."

Mrs. Tang gave several names in one go, all of them were either rich or noble, and they were all representatives of the big Nanyang family.

Liu Xie nodded and took his seat calmly. "Sister-in-law, go get busy, don't worry about me. Mr. Xun and I still have something to talk about."

Mrs. Tang smiled, served tea with her own hands, and then withdrew.

Liu Xie picked up the teacup, took a sip, and said to Xun Yu, "Taste this tea, Mr. Xun. It's your Yingchuan tea. It's roasted with a new method, and you can't see it outside."

Xun Yu listened, smiled slightly, and picked up the teacup.

Since the popularity of tea, various drinking methods have emerged one after another, making people dizzy.First there was milk tea, then ginger tea, scented tea, sugar tea, and more recently clear tea and bitter tea without any condiments added.Some are boiled, some are brewed, some are soaked, and each has its own advantages.Tea trees have been discovered all over the place. Although there are mountains in Yingchuan, it is not heard that there is good tea.

Otherwise he would have known.

He is not in Yingchuan, but he has always been in contact with his hometown, and he is very well informed.

What's more, Mrs. Tang also kept close contact with him, and often sent people to send him some novelties, including tea from various places.If there is good tea, there is no reason for him not to know it.

After tasting it carefully, Xun Yu had to admit that he had never drunk the tea.

"What kind of tea is this?"

Xun Wenqian said: "The tea my sister-in-law grows herself has just been cultivated. There is only one tea tree, and the yield is only two taels. I don't give it away, I keep it for myself to drink."

"When did she return to Yingchuan to grow tea?"

"When I visited relatives last time, I found the tea species in Songshan."

Xun Yu was puzzled and didn't dare to say more.

Mrs. Tang's home is in Yancheng, which is in a balanced location, not close to Songshan Mountain.What did she go to Songshan for?It is definitely not as simple as just wandering around the foot of the mountain to find tea trees.

"Your Majesty, it seems to be Wang Can's voice." Xun Wenqian said in a low voice.

Liu Xie listened intently, and sure enough, he heard Wang Can's voice.

In fact, Wang Can is not suitable for talking too much. He has a slight stutter, and he can't hear it normally. Once the voice is loud or the debate is heated, it will be more obvious.

He was obviously a little excited today, and he could hear it clearly on the second floor.

"Gentlemen, the purpose of getting together today is not to let you taste the fragrant tea and snacks of Yinfang. Although I admit that the fragrant tea and snacks of Yinfang are unforgettable, I am afraid that you will still be there after you go back. It takes a few days. However, we cannot be satisfied with our appetites, and there are more important things to discuss. This is the karma of a sage.”

The originally noisy downstairs quieted down, only the sound of "papa", which should be the sound of Wang Can slapping the pages of the book.

Liu Xie glanced at the manuscript prepared on the case, and couldn't help laughing.

Mrs. Tang is very careful in her work. She has prepared a copy of the selected articles and books, which are placed in front of them and can be read at any time.The same is true in front of the guests who come downstairs, Wang Can slapped them.

"A sage has three immortalities, one is to make virtue and make meritorious deeds. We, the scholars, dare not speak falsely and make meritorious deeds. We can only make contributions in establishing words. Most of you present here are enlightened with long hair. "As for the Five Classics, I have been involved with hundreds of schools of thought, and have worked hard for more than ten years. Even if the books I have read are not as rich as five carts, I still have one or two carts."

Someone said loudly: "In terms of reading, who can compare with you, Wang Zhongxuan. Before there was a book donated by Cai Bojie, and later there was a collection of Lantai. Those who have read the eyes may be so huge that a hundred carts can't fit it." Bar?"

Everyone laughed, there was no lack of admiration for Wang Can in their words, but there was a sense of banter when they read carefully.

No matter how much you read a book, if you can't grasp its meaning, it is just a mobile library.For Wang Can, who has a photographic memory, this is not so much flattery as ridicule.

"Who was that person just now?" Liu Xie asked softly.

Xun Wenqian frowned, unable to guess for a moment.

He Yan came over and said softly: "If my guess is right, it should be Pan Jun. Pan Jun, whose name is Chengming, was born in Wuling Hanshou. , was a little dissatisfied with Wang Can, and argued with Wang Can many times. There is no reason for him not to come to such a grand event today. It's just that it was so fierce at the beginning, which is a bit unusual."

"Why is it unusual?"

"Although Pan Jun is a scholar, he is good at the art of war. He often said that a battle is like using a soldier. You should stop it with silence and strike later. It's not like his style to be aggressive as soon as you open your mouth like this."

He Yan thought for a while, and a little excitement appeared in his eyes. "Unless... there are reinforcements."

Xun Yu listened from the side, glanced at He Yan out of the corner of his eye, and frowned inadvertently.

He Yan showed aggressive habits before he was an adult, and he was probably influenced by the emperor.

Chapter 1152

Liu Xie leaned against the edge of the window, looked through the pane and looked at the venue downstairs.

Unknowingly, the spacious hall was already full of people, many people crowded together, whispering and discussing.

Pan Jun, who challenged Wang Can, was not in the hall, but in the corridor.He is not considered tall, but he does have the bearing of a military strategist when described as resolute.In other words, there is a bit of domineering spirit.

The four counties in the south of the Yangtze River belonged to Jingzhou, but they were often regarded as barbarians by the three counties in the north of the Yangtze River, especially Nanyang and Nanyang.Changsha and Guiyang are slightly better, Lingling and Wuling are more mountainous, especially so.

Pan Jun's aggression in front of him is more reminiscent of the tyranny of the Jiangnan people, but in Liu Xie's view, this is a kind of vitality.

No wonder Pan Jun later became a famous general of Sun Wu.

Of course, this also made him think of another problem: developing Jiangnan is by no means an easy task.

If the scholars in Jiangnan cannot be dealt with first, it will be difficult to achieve in-depth control over Jiangnan, let alone develop it.

Maybe this time we should take advantage of Liu Ba's visit to participate in the discussions of the Second House and discuss this issue.

Liu Xie looked at Xun Yu out of the corner of his eye.

He knew that Liu Ba had cooperated with Xun Yu when he first became an official, but later Liu Ba separated from Xun Yu when he went to Guanzhong to serve as the chief minister.Judging from the performance of the two, it is difficult to say whether they are still as like-minded as before.

And Liu Ba himself has a lot of celebrity habits.

In the hall, Wang Can laughed loudly. "Chengming, you are exaggerating. Although there are many books in Lantai, they are not as huge as ten thousand volumes. Lantai collects books for the emperor, and not all books are eligible to be included in the collection. We recommend books here today. It is necessary to select works that are worthy of more people's reading and appreciation, and are worthy of governance. If Cheng Ming has a good opinion, he may as well say it bluntly. It's not too late to talk."

The corner of Liu Xie's mouth twitched slightly.

Wang Can hides needles in the cotton and uses offense as defense. It seems that his recent study of Western learning has made great progress.

A large part of the ancient Greek philosophy advocated by the West lives for debate, such as logic.

There is actually no difference between the East and the West in terms of liking to talk.If there is a difference, it may be that Easterners are deeply influenced by Confucianism, and it is difficult to break out of the circle of the Five Classics of Confucianism.Westerners are more simple, and their arguments and arguments are closer to nature.

Of course, there are similar studies in the East, such as "Mozi" and the recently popular "Lunheng", which are different from the simple debates within Confucianism, and pay more attention to natural phenomena.

Cai Yong was one of the earlier scholars who studied "Lunheng". Wang Can is not only his disciple, but also has his collection of books, so he must have put a lot of effort into this aspect.

As expected, although Pan Jun came aggressively, he was deflected by Wang Can's move with softness over rigidity, and the atmosphere was stagnant.

However, he did not stop there, and immediately said: "From Ling Shi's point of view, what kind of articles and works are considered valuable? What kind of standard is worthy of governance? Does the Five Classics count?"

"The Five Classics are counted naturally." Wang Can's voice revealed a little displeasure.

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