Back to the Song Dynasty as a tyrant

This kind of atmosphere reminded Zhao Ning of some interesting activities in the university in his previous life.

The Great Song Dynasty was still very good in terms of freedom of speech.

Not only people with fame like to discuss politics, but even scholars like to discuss.

Zhao Ning walked over and found a place to sit down.

I saw a young man in brocade clothes standing up at this time, he walked to the center of the field, bowed to the people around him, and said: "My servant is Chen Biqing, a native of Hongzhou on Jiangnan West Road, a student of Tokyo University, just now Brother Chicheng said that corrupt officials , should be severely punished, this statement is wrong."

As soon as he said this, the people around immediately started talking.

"Brother Chen, what do you mean by that?"

The person who spoke was Li Mengbo, whose name was Chicheng, and he was also a student at the University of Tokyo.

Chen Biqing said: "I want to ask Brother Li, what is a corrupt official?"

"Corrupt officials are naturally greedy for their own selfishness, greedy for money, or fish for the common people, filling their own pockets."

Chen Biqing added: "It is a crime to embezzle Mo's public funds for one's own selfishness, but corrupt officials must exploit the common people?"

Li Mengbo said: "Corrupt officials may not directly exploit the people, but the money embezzled by corrupt officials is money for the country and the people, and it is related to the livelihood of countless people. In this Jiangdong case, the magistrate of Lishui County knew that the money was reissued to Sang. Farmers, but they either hold all of them in their hands, or let their relatives forcefully buy farmland at a low price, and take the opportunity to get subsidies from the court, who is the victim of this?"

Chen Biqing said: "We don't know the reason. The magistrate of Lishui County just took the money for corruption and did not use the money to do harm to nature. They did not go to the farmers to search for the money. The grain robbery case was because the farmers were unwilling to change The rice is the mulberry, and the local government has made a bad policy, which is indeed harsh, but it has nothing to do with corruption."

Li Mengbo said: "You are making unreasonable words. If the magistrate of Lishui County distributed the money from the court to the people according to the rules, there would be no food robbery case."

"That's not necessarily the case." Chen Biqing continued, "How does Brother Chicheng know that after the people get the money, they will change rice into mulberry?"

"This is a matter of distributing subsidies, which can be verified after verification."

"Then will the people deceive the government?"

"Brother Chen, what we are discussing now is the issue of corruption."

"That's why I said that corruption is not murder. Corruption refers to the use of power for personal gain and money. Since there is no murder, the money is confiscated and the official is dismissed. Why must he be executed?" Chen Biqing said sonorously.

His aura suddenly became stronger, and some people around couldn't help applauding him.

"It's nonsense!" Li Mengbo said, "Corruption in this dynasty has not been punished by death. You are just confusing the public here. Corrupting huge sums of money has made people miserable and endangered the country. If you don't put to death, it's not enough to deter evil in the world!"

When he said this, some people around him applauded.

Chen Biqing continued: "Brother Chicheng, I have another question for you."

"Excuse me."

Chen Biqing asked, "Does the law prohibit murder?"

"Yes."

Chen Biqing said: "Since the law prohibits murder, why should the death penalty be imposed? It is inconsistent with legal principles."

As soon as he said these words, the people around him seemed to be thinking.

Then someone catered to him: "Yes! Brother Chen is right!"

"Yes! Since the law prohibits murder, why does the law stipulate the death penalty?"

"Before this dynasty, scholars and bureaucrats were never killed!"

Li Mengbo angrily reprimanded on the spot: "Nonsense!"

Only then did the people around quiet down.

Seeing this, Zhao Ning's interest has been completely aroused.

The question of whether to abolish the death penalty is actually being discussed here!

However, Zhao Ning, who plays politics, immediately sensed that this was not a purely academic debate.

He didn't intend to interfere, but hid in the crowd and continued to listen. He wanted to see what tricks these new youths from the Great Song Dynasty wanted to play.

"Brother Chicheng please enlighten me!"

"The law stipulates that killing people is not allowed, but since ancient times, people have killed people to pay for their lives. This is the law of heaven and justice, how can it be child's play!"

"Brother Chicheng misunderstood. I didn't just refer to murderers. Please pay attention to my question. Since the law prohibits killing, why does the law stipulate the death penalty?"

Li Mengbo was stunned for a moment, and said, "You mean, the death penalty should be abolished from the law?"

Chen Biqing replied positively, and then asked: "Let me ask you again, if the case is wrongly judged and a good person is killed, can the dead be brought back to life?"

PS: Guys, I'm not feeling well today, so I'm going to only have two chapters for the time being, I can't handle it anymore.

Chapter 851 Counterattack by interest groups? (first update)

Li Mengbo did not answer his question, but continued to ask: "Your Excellency, you mean that the death penalty should be abolished from the law?"

"What is the answer to this question is not important at the moment." Chen Biqing said, "Let me ask you, if the case is wrongly judged and a good person is killed, can the dead come back to life?"

"cannot!"

"Since you can't, why do you still have to kill?"

Some people around seemed to be woken up, and immediately said: "That's right! The case was wrongly judged, but he killed the person. Isn't it wrong to kill a good person!"

"Brother Chen is right!"

"It makes sense! Once the case is wrongly judged and a good person is killed by mistake, what is the law of heaven!"

People around shouted again.

"It's nonsense! It is the responsibility of judicial officials to make mistakes in judging the case! What does it have to do with the death penalty?" Li Mengbo replied on the spot, "According to what you said, if you violated the law, you should not sentence them at all. If you are not guilty, you will not be punished." There will be injustice!"

Chen Biqing said: "If there is no sentence at all, it will naturally be more chaotic, but if the death penalty is abolished, good people will not be massacred. This is a great merit!"

Hearing this, Zhao Ning has no interest in listening anymore.

Trivial nonsense.

In official history, the earliest representatives of the abolitionists were Montesquieu in France and Becarlia in Italy.

Zhao Ning didn't care what Montesquieu and Becarlia thought.

But this Chen Biqing style, he has a strong interest.

The birth of the Abolitionists in the Song Dynasty?

Of course it is possible!

Don't forget, since Zhao Guangyi, Zhao officials have never killed civil officials.

What Chen Biqing said here is to stop the killing, most likely means to restore the previous rules and stop killing civil servants and scholars.

In the past few years, no one dared to say this, because everyone could see the situation clearly. In order to fight against the gold, the imperial court severely rectified the administration of officials.

However, with the end of the Fifth Song-Jin War, the lost land in Hedong and Hebei came back, and even the imperial court deployed troops to Liaodong.

So some people saw the big change in the situation.

It is believed that the Jin people will not go south easily in the future.

There are also some voices from the people that the situation in Song and Jin Dynasties is really developing towards the situation in Song and Liao.

Under this trend, some people also suggested that the internal governance method should be changed.

How to change it?

Some people began to advocate that governing the world should be governed by benevolence, and that benevolent governance should be implemented.

Some people dug up the political achievements and humanities of the past Renzong era, saying that the Renzong era was an era that embraced all rivers.

These voices, Zhao Ning more or less heard some.

As Zhao Guan's family, he naturally wouldn't be furious when he heard these voices.

Not only can't even be furious, but also show affirmation and appreciation from time to time.

After all, governing the country with benevolence and being inclusive of all rivers is indeed the righteousness of governing the country.

However, today's debate really made Zhao Ning smell something extraordinary.

Next, people from both sides began to debate on this point.

It is polite to say that the debate has actually reached the stage of confrontation.

After a while, the crowd slowly dispersed.

He was not in a hurry to leave, but was playing in the garden.

Although the weather is cold, the garden scenery under the light snow is particularly beautiful.

Chen Biqing was between a pavilion in front, surrounded by some young people, and several old and middle-aged people.

Of course, young talents like him never lack women to admire.

In the Song Dynasty, there was no rule that women could not leave the house.

"I found out, that young man is called Chen Biqing, a student of the Judicial College of the University of Tokyo, and his grades in all subjects are the first in the school. He is a veritable excellent student." Jing Chao said, "It is worth noting that he has another identity."

"What identity?"

"His father is Chen Zhengxian, the chief secretary of Hebei West Road, and his eldest father is Chen Yuru, the transfer envoy of Jiangnan West Road."

It turned out to be the third generation of officials!

No wonder he can show his talents in Tokyo City.

Not to mention that he is No.1 in every subject in the university, with this status, even if he is not No.1, he can be No.1.

What are literati best at?

It's telling the truth, it's the spring and autumn style of writing!

Especially people from this kind of scholarly family, they can explain the same thing into more than a dozen different meanings.

Their ability to tell stories can easily penetrate the brains of young people without systematic thinking, allowing those people to immediately find the true meaning of life.

Moreover, they skilfully avoided the law.

As for what Chen Biqing said just now, you can’t find any crimes in the laws of the Song Dynasty. Even if you move out the laws of the 21st century and interpret every word, you can’t find him suspected of breaking the law.

There were many such people in the Song Dynasty.

Chen Biqing was talking eloquently, and Zhao Ning led the people there.

Chen Biqing seemed to have noticed Zhao Ning as well, his eyes shifted, and seeing the extraordinary temperament of this young man who walked over, he couldn't help but take a few more glances.

"I heard Brother Chen's debate just now, it was very exciting." Zhao Ning said.

Chen Biqing hurriedly bowed and said, "Your Excellency has won the prize, but I don't know your surname?"

"My surname is Zhao, and my single name is Ning."

"Zhao Ning?" Chen Biqing was stunned for a moment, feeling that the name was somewhat familiar, but couldn't recall it for a while.

But seeing that Zhao Ning was dressed in clothes, he was either rich or expensive, so he didn't dare to neglect.

Moreover, one more person has more power.

Zhao Ning asked: "However, I have a doubt. Nowadays, the Zhao family is famous for severely punishing corrupt officials. If you said this in the capital, are you afraid of being sued in the court?"

Chen Biqing said: "Next time, I didn't criticize the government, and secondly, I didn't violate the law. I just discussed the way of governing. Today, I am the No. 1 wise emperor in the ages. All the insightful people in the world return their hearts. How can I embarrass a mere student?"

What he meant was that the Zhao official family is the ruler of the world, the father of all the people, the virtues will last through the ages, and the benevolence and righteousness will last forever.

What he said was impeccable.

If it is really because of his few words that people are arrested, it will definitely cause panic among those righteous people who are really dedicated to the country.

People are like water!

Zhao Ning said: "Your Excellency's words are indeed reasonable. The Great Song Dynasty should have more outstanding people who can speak up for righteousness, so that the society can be safe for a long time."

"Does Zhao Guanren also agree that benevolent governance is needed today?"

Zhao Ning said: "I have always believed that government should be benevolent, that people should be sympathetic to the power of the people, and that the judiciary should be measured. Only in this way can the people live and work in peace and contentment."

"This is a subject of great learning. It would be great to have someone like Officer Zhao join in." Chen Biqing said, "We have set up a Fushe in the capital. , you can also join us."

"Oh, Fushe?" Zhao Ning was puzzled.

Wasn't Fushe created by those people in Jiangnan in the late Ming Dynasty?

Chapter 852 Tyrant and Benevolent Government? (Second more)

Maybe it's just the same name, purely coincidental.