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Chapter 521 DCT Gearbox
Chapter 521 DCT Gearbox
In the southeast, the city of the Three Wus, Qiantang has been prosperous since ancient times.
People from a small place like Quli are quite addicted to the water towns in the south of the Yangtze River. The houses with small bridges and flowing water were once their dream homes.
When they arrived in Hangzhou, SMIC had another unexpected incident that needed Zhang Yiwen to deal with. Qu Li drove to Ahli and surprised them.
"I am passing through Hangzhou on a self-driving tour." Qu Li explained...
Fortunately, Qu Li's face is not unfamiliar to Ahli. It's unknown how many people hate him. Anyway, we are all competitors.
The problem of counterfeit goods on Ali and Taobao is well-known around the world. However, because Jumei implements a legitimate counterfeiting strategy and directly enters the US market, netizens around the world know that the problem of "fake goods" is a corporate problem, not a national problem. Therefore, there is no more. Waiguo Papa doesn’t care about Chinese companies and consumers, it only cares about how to discredit you...
Ma Yun was away and went traveling somewhere. Qu Li stayed in Ahli for half a day, bragging, chatting and eating with a few people. The next day he went to Geely Automobile to meet Li Shufu.
Geely has a gearbox factory in Xingsha, which was established after they acquired the Australian DSI company. It has a 6AT gearbox, which is pretty good.
There are three types of gearboxes: AT, which has the highest technical complexity threshold, stable performance and high fuel consumption, CVT, which is simple in technology, low in fuel consumption, weak in power and poor in reliability, and dual-clutch DCT.Due to patent issues, the only domestic options are CVT and DCT. Before Geely acquired DSI, the company suffered a serious loss of employees and a decline in R&D capabilities.
Qiancheng Motor currently uses imported AT gearboxes. The ones from Kimchi are cheaper, while the products from Japan's Aisin and Germany's ZF are stronger.However, as a small company, it must be self-aware. Qiancheng Motors basically does not have much say.
Qu Li has always been criticized for not wanting to spend money on gearboxes. After all, no one knows when electric vehicles will replace fuel vehicles, and they now have to rely on fuel vehicles to make money.
If he doesn’t want to spend money to research on his own, he can find someone else. Geely, Chery, and JAC Motors are all doing research on their own, BYD is doing reverse engineering, and Great Wall Motor is doing procurement.
Geely's gearbox factory is located in Xingsha, so if we want to cooperate, we first think of Geely. Qiancheng Automobile considered using Geely DSI's 6AT gearbox, but due to comprehensive considerations such as brand influence, it chose foreign products.You don’t need Qiancheng, but Cheetah can use it. We have the basis for cooperation.
"Can we find more car companies to cooperate in developing DCT gearboxes?" Qu Li asked Li Shufu, an entrepreneur from Jiangsu and Zhejiang who looks a bit like a smiling tiger.
"Of course!" Li Shufu said with a smile.
Domestic enterprises generally lack cooperation. The research and development cycle of gearboxes is as long as 7 years. Cooperation is the best solution. However, in the beginning, no one has the strength and is reluctant to spend money. When they are rich, they look down on domestic products. Anyway, domestic products are independent. The brand has never cooperated on the three major components of engines, gearboxes and chassis.
"Geely DSI's 6AT gearbox is very suitable for Qiancheng Motor..." Li Shufu
"We need more convincing products." Qu Li didn't come to Hangzhou just to purchase his gearbox.
The "coupe" being developed by Qiancheng needs a DCT gearbox, Quli wants a cooperative development model to reduce costs, and Geely wants...
The first batch of 10C Future Geometry was sold in less than [-] cities including Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Xingsha, etc., all of which were directly operated stores. To say that no one bought such a famous electric car back for "research", Qu Li didn't believe it, so he didn't know. Li Shufu believed it or not.
Listening to him asking about Qiancheng's investment and technical roadmap for electric vehicles, Qu Li smiled "meaningfully" and did not criticize.
The two of them had a great time getting to know each other, but in the end nothing was settled. Qu Li was somewhat disappointed when they left Hangzhou.
There are only a few companies he wants to cooperate with. BYD has adhered to the technical route for more than ten years, but what they are best at is "reverse engineering". Their gearbox imitates Volkswagen.There is no shame in imitating and learning from others. This is what everyone has done. The key is to have your own ideas and a way forward.I won’t comment on BYD’s fuel vehicles, the market knows.
What about Chery, another company famous for its technology?They spent 7 years developing the CVT gearbox themselves, and later sold it to Wanliyang, and then "self-developed" 8AT and DCT.If it were a big manufacturer, it would certainly be "made" like this, but Chery is not even listed on the market.Research and development for the sake of research and development, no direction, chaotic product line, no attention to quality control, excessive marketing, the market teaches him how to be a human being...
What about the Great Wall?Their development route is relatively stable, and they are also "self-researched." Haval has become the king of domestic SUVs, and its technology integration capabilities are certainly not bad.But there is really no need to cooperate. It is better to directly contact Fangtrac, their transmission technology provider, for joint development with this German transmission company.
"Aren't you going to cooperate with Geely?" Lu Tao of Qiancheng Automobile was a little puzzled when he received Qu Li's call. Did he make such a simple decision?
"Forget it, it's better to ask for others than to ask for yourself. Let's purchase Getrag first, and at the same time cooperate to develop a 6-speed wet dual-clutch..." Qu Li chose DCT in the transmission technology route, because this kind of transmission can take into account both fuel consumption and sports performance. It is suitable for the development direction of Qiancheng fuel vehicles.Chery Getrag's 7-speed wet dual-clutch has a service life of more than 10 kilometers. The 7-speed DCT developed by Great Wall on this basis can reach 30 kilometers without major repairs.
Getrag built a factory in Jiangxi in 2007 and a factory in Wuhan this year. It previously cooperated with Volkswagen and Ford to develop DCT gearboxes and was not very conservative about technology diffusion. Therefore, independent brands such as Great Wall and Chery later "self-developed" DCTs. .
Chery's insistence on self-research is definitely not wrong, but the self-developed technology is not to "go from scratch to something", but to compete with the world's top companies and gain an advantage. No one believes that Chery can do it, possibly including themselves. .
But BYD has done it. Most people in China recognize that BYD's electric vehicles have a leading advantage in the world. This is more reliable than any advertisement. They already have a fundamental base that is difficult to shake.In the foreseeable future, BYD will encounter many problems with "quality control", but as long as the electric vehicle industry does not boom, they will not become a "front wave".
A large amount of technology for Qu Li's Qiancheng Motors' two SUVs came from Mitsubishi, but he also disliked Mitsubishi's limited imagination, so on the basis of mastering Ford's old engines, he cooperated with German FEV to ensure that the engines would not fall behind in the international market.The current cooperation with Getrag ensures that DCT gearboxes are competitive on a global scale.
"Of the three major components of a fuel vehicle, we only have one shortcoming: the chassis." Qu Li hung up the phone with Lu Tao and sighed. The chassis and active suspension really cannot be operated, and there are no shortcuts.
Just as Qu Li was on his way to the Magic City, after Saab Automobile went bankrupt, the asset custodian quickly launched an auction, and Xia Mingfei of Qiancheng Automobile appeared at the venue.
In the southeast, the city of the Three Wus, Qiantang has been prosperous since ancient times.
People from a small place like Quli are quite addicted to the water towns in the south of the Yangtze River. The houses with small bridges and flowing water were once their dream homes.
When they arrived in Hangzhou, SMIC had another unexpected incident that needed Zhang Yiwen to deal with. Qu Li drove to Ahli and surprised them.
"I am passing through Hangzhou on a self-driving tour." Qu Li explained...
Fortunately, Qu Li's face is not unfamiliar to Ahli. It's unknown how many people hate him. Anyway, we are all competitors.
The problem of counterfeit goods on Ali and Taobao is well-known around the world. However, because Jumei implements a legitimate counterfeiting strategy and directly enters the US market, netizens around the world know that the problem of "fake goods" is a corporate problem, not a national problem. Therefore, there is no more. Waiguo Papa doesn’t care about Chinese companies and consumers, it only cares about how to discredit you...
Ma Yun was away and went traveling somewhere. Qu Li stayed in Ahli for half a day, bragging, chatting and eating with a few people. The next day he went to Geely Automobile to meet Li Shufu.
Geely has a gearbox factory in Xingsha, which was established after they acquired the Australian DSI company. It has a 6AT gearbox, which is pretty good.
There are three types of gearboxes: AT, which has the highest technical complexity threshold, stable performance and high fuel consumption, CVT, which is simple in technology, low in fuel consumption, weak in power and poor in reliability, and dual-clutch DCT.Due to patent issues, the only domestic options are CVT and DCT. Before Geely acquired DSI, the company suffered a serious loss of employees and a decline in R&D capabilities.
Qiancheng Motor currently uses imported AT gearboxes. The ones from Kimchi are cheaper, while the products from Japan's Aisin and Germany's ZF are stronger.However, as a small company, it must be self-aware. Qiancheng Motors basically does not have much say.
Qu Li has always been criticized for not wanting to spend money on gearboxes. After all, no one knows when electric vehicles will replace fuel vehicles, and they now have to rely on fuel vehicles to make money.
If he doesn’t want to spend money to research on his own, he can find someone else. Geely, Chery, and JAC Motors are all doing research on their own, BYD is doing reverse engineering, and Great Wall Motor is doing procurement.
Geely's gearbox factory is located in Xingsha, so if we want to cooperate, we first think of Geely. Qiancheng Automobile considered using Geely DSI's 6AT gearbox, but due to comprehensive considerations such as brand influence, it chose foreign products.You don’t need Qiancheng, but Cheetah can use it. We have the basis for cooperation.
"Can we find more car companies to cooperate in developing DCT gearboxes?" Qu Li asked Li Shufu, an entrepreneur from Jiangsu and Zhejiang who looks a bit like a smiling tiger.
"Of course!" Li Shufu said with a smile.
Domestic enterprises generally lack cooperation. The research and development cycle of gearboxes is as long as 7 years. Cooperation is the best solution. However, in the beginning, no one has the strength and is reluctant to spend money. When they are rich, they look down on domestic products. Anyway, domestic products are independent. The brand has never cooperated on the three major components of engines, gearboxes and chassis.
"Geely DSI's 6AT gearbox is very suitable for Qiancheng Motor..." Li Shufu
"We need more convincing products." Qu Li didn't come to Hangzhou just to purchase his gearbox.
The "coupe" being developed by Qiancheng needs a DCT gearbox, Quli wants a cooperative development model to reduce costs, and Geely wants...
The first batch of 10C Future Geometry was sold in less than [-] cities including Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Xingsha, etc., all of which were directly operated stores. To say that no one bought such a famous electric car back for "research", Qu Li didn't believe it, so he didn't know. Li Shufu believed it or not.
Listening to him asking about Qiancheng's investment and technical roadmap for electric vehicles, Qu Li smiled "meaningfully" and did not criticize.
The two of them had a great time getting to know each other, but in the end nothing was settled. Qu Li was somewhat disappointed when they left Hangzhou.
There are only a few companies he wants to cooperate with. BYD has adhered to the technical route for more than ten years, but what they are best at is "reverse engineering". Their gearbox imitates Volkswagen.There is no shame in imitating and learning from others. This is what everyone has done. The key is to have your own ideas and a way forward.I won’t comment on BYD’s fuel vehicles, the market knows.
What about Chery, another company famous for its technology?They spent 7 years developing the CVT gearbox themselves, and later sold it to Wanliyang, and then "self-developed" 8AT and DCT.If it were a big manufacturer, it would certainly be "made" like this, but Chery is not even listed on the market.Research and development for the sake of research and development, no direction, chaotic product line, no attention to quality control, excessive marketing, the market teaches him how to be a human being...
What about the Great Wall?Their development route is relatively stable, and they are also "self-researched." Haval has become the king of domestic SUVs, and its technology integration capabilities are certainly not bad.But there is really no need to cooperate. It is better to directly contact Fangtrac, their transmission technology provider, for joint development with this German transmission company.
"Aren't you going to cooperate with Geely?" Lu Tao of Qiancheng Automobile was a little puzzled when he received Qu Li's call. Did he make such a simple decision?
"Forget it, it's better to ask for others than to ask for yourself. Let's purchase Getrag first, and at the same time cooperate to develop a 6-speed wet dual-clutch..." Qu Li chose DCT in the transmission technology route, because this kind of transmission can take into account both fuel consumption and sports performance. It is suitable for the development direction of Qiancheng fuel vehicles.Chery Getrag's 7-speed wet dual-clutch has a service life of more than 10 kilometers. The 7-speed DCT developed by Great Wall on this basis can reach 30 kilometers without major repairs.
Getrag built a factory in Jiangxi in 2007 and a factory in Wuhan this year. It previously cooperated with Volkswagen and Ford to develop DCT gearboxes and was not very conservative about technology diffusion. Therefore, independent brands such as Great Wall and Chery later "self-developed" DCTs. .
Chery's insistence on self-research is definitely not wrong, but the self-developed technology is not to "go from scratch to something", but to compete with the world's top companies and gain an advantage. No one believes that Chery can do it, possibly including themselves. .
But BYD has done it. Most people in China recognize that BYD's electric vehicles have a leading advantage in the world. This is more reliable than any advertisement. They already have a fundamental base that is difficult to shake.In the foreseeable future, BYD will encounter many problems with "quality control", but as long as the electric vehicle industry does not boom, they will not become a "front wave".
A large amount of technology for Qu Li's Qiancheng Motors' two SUVs came from Mitsubishi, but he also disliked Mitsubishi's limited imagination, so on the basis of mastering Ford's old engines, he cooperated with German FEV to ensure that the engines would not fall behind in the international market.The current cooperation with Getrag ensures that DCT gearboxes are competitive on a global scale.
"Of the three major components of a fuel vehicle, we only have one shortcoming: the chassis." Qu Li hung up the phone with Lu Tao and sighed. The chassis and active suspension really cannot be operated, and there are no shortcuts.
Just as Qu Li was on his way to the Magic City, after Saab Automobile went bankrupt, the asset custodian quickly launched an auction, and Xia Mingfei of Qiancheng Automobile appeared at the venue.
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