[Witch Gavin]: The freedom to wear makeup is a kind of freedom, but it is not a rigid need to gain power and break the gaze of the patriarchal society. In my opinion, this kind of freedom is dispensable.

Li Zhao wanted to laugh, but she held back: "It's really funny. The main purpose of women's rights is to pursue women to have the same freedom and rights as men."

"She thinks the freedom to wear makeup is optional, because makeup cannot gain power and is not a necessity to break the gaze of a patriarchal society?"

Li Zhaodao said: "Makeup cannot gain power, and its existence is not a rigid need to break the male chauvinism, but its existence is the greatest significance, because it itself is a symbol of freedom and power."

“Since the freedom to wear makeup is optional, why can’t it be allowed to exist?”

"What can you gain by giving up the freedom to wear makeup? The freedom to not wear makeup? Isn't the freedom to not wear makeup in women's hands from the beginning?"

"If you want to get rid of the beauty service, you don't need to give up the freedom to wear makeup. You just need to change your thoughts and behaviors and give up the [service]. You can have the freedom to wear makeup and not wear makeup at the same time."

"Before we get the real freedom and power, we give up a kind of freedom and power, just because it is irrelevant to the real freedom and power?"

"Since it doesn't matter, why bother giving it up?"

“The freedom and power to wear makeup is no matter how insignificant it is, it is still a kind of freedom and power.”

"It won't do you any good to throw it away, but if you don't use it, there won't be any harm. Can't you just keep it?"

[Witch Gavin]: We can make our voices heard and safeguard our rights by opposing the ban on wearing makeup on high-speed trains, but there is no need to over-escalate the act of wearing makeup itself, because it does not do much to help us win true freedom and rights, and it is even an act that caters to the patriarchal society.

Li Zhao couldn't help but laugh: "Putting on makeup doesn't help much in gaining true freedom and power, but it doesn't do much harm either."

"As for what you said, putting on makeup itself is a way of catering to the patriarchal society?"

"In the last century, Western patriarchs thought it was shameful for women to wear makeup, and only frivolous prostitutes would wear makeup."

"And in 1912, Elizabeth Arden and more than 1 feminists in New York wore big white dresses and put on makeup to march and protest. Which male power did they cater to with their makeup?"

Li Zhao was really speechless: "The only person who can decide the meaning of the act of putting on makeup is the one who puts it on."

"Whether you wear makeup to cater to the patriarchal society or to please yourself, only you can decide, not others or society."

“Even makeup itself cannot determine its own meaning, because it is just an objective thing, a tool, and all kinds of meanings attached to it are added by people.”

"What makeup is is not up to it."

[Witch Gavin]: Perhaps labeling makeup as a form of beauty service is an overreaction, but in this age where girls are overly demanded to be beautiful, this may be a solution.

Li Zhao burst into laughter: "And then?"

"You label wearing makeup as beauty service, and label sisters who wear makeup as beauty service members, and abuse and criticize them, saying that they are enslaved by beauty by wearing makeup, and teach them, make them more sober, and ask them not to wear makeup? Is this your idea to solve the problem of beauty service?"

"Everyone, do you think this idea is crazy?"

"The times are overly demanding that girls be beautiful. Who is making the demands? Is it makeup that has become sophisticated and is demanding that girls be beautiful? It's the ubiquitous male power and the capital that wants to sell goods!"

“Whether a woman wears makeup or not is just an appearance, it’s a result.”

"Asking women not to wear makeup will not eliminate the phenomenon of women wearing makeup, nor will it solve the problem. Instead, it will put a shackle on women that prohibits them from wearing makeup, you idiot!"

"Asking women to wear makeup or not to wear makeup, the point is not about makeup or not to wear makeup, but about [the request]."

"Who is asking women to pursue beauty excessively? It's not makeup, nor the women who wear makeup, but patriarchy and capital!"

"The fists of extreme feminism are not aimed at them, but at makeup, at women who wear makeup, and they beat makeup into beauty service, and then beat sisters who wear makeup into beauty service, and criticize and teach?!"

Li Zhao taunted, "[Witch Gavin], look at what stupid things you are saying."

"Patriarchy requires women to wear makeup, while feminism requires women not to wear makeup. It's just going from one extreme to another."

The barrage was collectively speechless.

[Ping Huan]: You are so crazy, really sick. Isn't this just bullying the weak and fearing the strong?

[Qingti Xingzi]: Now I understand what those radical girls are.

[Sikongzhu who loves potato cakes]: According to the radical women, requiring women not to wear makeup, or completely prohibiting women from wearing makeup, is also military service. Because military service is something that people do not want to do, but are required to do by society and other things.

Li Zhao smiled and clapped his hands: "That's right, [Sikong Zhu who loves potato cakes], Baozi, you are right."

Li Zhaodao: "Real feminism cares about women's rights, employment discrimination, and domestic violence."

Qing Luan also snorted: "Fake feminism, women are not allowed to wear makeup, have children, or get married."

Li Zhao also said: "Real women's rights are to liberate women, allowing women to boldly do whatever they want to do, and not to do what they don't want to do."

Qing Luan followed up by saying, “Fake feminism only defines women and strictly prohibits women from doing things that feminism dislikes.”

"Feminism exists to allow women to enjoy the greatest possible freedom, but fake feminism... hehe."

"Do you now know what these pseudo-feminists, real women's rights, and so-called radical women are?"

"They are not radical women, but female fighters disguised as radical women and extreme feminists."

"They always express subjective, one-sided and unrealistic opinions to brainwash women, causing them to give up their existing freedom and rights."

"They have never fought for anything for women. They only know how to talk big online, to satisfy their educated youth addiction."

"They even punch without realizing it. Not only do they miss their enemies, but they also punch their compatriots. They think they are some kind of feminist fighter fighting for all women!"

Li Zhao posted the last paragraph of what this [Witch Gavin] said: "She also said something stupid."

[Witch Gavin]: After all, the balance of power was crooked from the beginning.

Li Zhao couldn't help but say, "Yes, the balance of power was skewed at the beginning, but can you straighten the skewed balance by giving up the freedom and power of makeup?"

Li Zhao smiled to the audience in the live broadcast room and said, "This person is really interesting. He talks in a counter-intuitive way."

"Since she considers the freedom to wear makeup to be insignificant and dispensable, how does abandoning it help to right the balance of power? No."

"If you want to straighten the skewed balance of power, you must possess more rights, no matter what kind, so that the balance can tilt in your favor, rather than constantly giving up rights and cutting your own flesh."

Li Zhao concluded: "Many radical remarks made by so-called feminists on Xiaohongshu are just empty talk."

"Those remarks are not only dogma, but also shackles, a new-age chastity belt, just like the remarks made by the witch Gavin just now."

Fans in the barrage expressed their agreement.

[Frost Prisoner]: That’s right! May every woman have more and more power and freedom!

[Green Grape Apricot]: That’s right, I hope every woman can exercise her freedom and power to the maximum extent!

Li Zhao looked at the other comments in the live broadcast room: "Ah, there is another message from Baozi here."

[Green Grape Apricot]: I am also curious about your opinion on skirting the line, because it is true that the current economic situation is not good, and many young women without high education will enter this industry.

[青提杏子]: But I also feel that there are still so many women at the bottom of society who are fighting for compensation through their own labor, such as doing physical work like delivering food. Women who do such work will inevitably deepen other people's stereotypes about the female group, and further deepen the difficulty for women to break through the ceiling in the workplace.

[Green Grape Apricot]: Personally, I hope that the number of people like this can be reduced as much as possible, but as a woman, I don’t want to be too harsh on them.

Li Zhao stroked his chin and thought carefully: "Well, this is a bit complicated."

"Wait a moment, let me collect my thoughts."

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