New Shun 1730
Chapter 1335: Philadelphia Conference Intimidated (VI)
Thinking like this, but not saying it out loud, looking for trouble.
For those who need to participate in Dashun's foreign trade and external exchanges, the things they have learned from the new school will always be mutually verified with reality.
The impact of what Dashun is doing now in Europe can actually imagine the future of Dashun.
Although Defoe's statement that the import of cotton cloth from the East caused wailing everywhere and textile workers had no way to make a living may be a bit exaggerated.
After all, the East India Company was still subject to the restrictions of the domestic parliament at that time, and the decrees at that time had to consider [in order for the textile industry to employ more domestic poor people].
But now...
I can only say that for those who opened textile factories in Dashun, let alone the poor in Britain, they don't care about the poor people in Dashun who can only maintain their family life by farming and weaving.
The trade ambassadors are not all worried or pitying the poor, but more worried that if the domestic market is directly opened up and all the currency gates are abolished, these new things, factories, etc., can survive the resistance of the people who don't want to be starving.
Especially...especially it seems that the court has decided to set the cotton production area in India. In this way, even if some places want to develop their own textile industry, they have no advantage due to the distance from the raw materials, and they will eventually fail.
As for saying that Wuyi Mountain tea must be sold in Songsu, what is the difference with the "Listed Commodities Act"... He knew it in his heart, but he didn't care, and didn't think it was a matter that could be solved by "debate".
Fujian, after all, has a different relationship with Britain than the Thirteen States, and the ability to control it is also completely different. In the final analysis, North American affairs still have to rely on guns, otherwise it will be useless to talk about it.
Whether the Dashun court did it right or not is a case that can never be solved. At the beginning, the trade center was moved to the mouth of the Yangtze River, which caused hundreds of thousands of people to lose their jobs on the Wuling Trade Route and Xijiang Shipping. The court still chose to suppress it with less money, rather than collecting taxes and spending money to immigrate.
The entire Dashun court knew about this matter, and it couldn't be mentioned now. In other words, as long as the emperor is alive or does not want the Duke of Xingguo to fall, whoever brings this up will be asking for trouble.
Now the princes are all playing dumb here. They know that from the perspective of the court, the Navigation Act and the Listed Commodities Act are for the convenience of tax collection, but they insist on talking about the fact that the Dashun commodity production capacity is sufficient and if North America is obtained, such a situation will never occur. The trade ambassadors also play dumb and don't talk about it.
Thinking of this, he said: "Your Highness said that if it is from the perspective of production, there is absolutely no problem. Now the thirteen states of North America need to come from Britain, and this dynasty can provide it, and if the price is calculated in silver, it is definitely lower than that of Britain."
"However, more of the reasons are still the difference in silver prices on both sides. Of course, some industries can use steam engines and even various instruments now, which are ten times more efficient. But more of them are still made by hand. Since they are all made by hand and have to cross the ocean, they can still be sold... There are also hidden worries. If twenty or thirty years later, European silver is pouring into our dynasty, and the silver price in our dynasty is also falling, and the grain price is also rising. It will not be good at that time. "
Li Xi smiled and said: "I am not worried about this. Although the ancients said: Wait until the sky is not cloudy and rainy, clear the mulberry soil and prepare the windows and doors."
"But you can't worry about the sky. "
"I understand what the Duke of Xingguo means. He still intends to concentrate capital, so that the silver from Europe can be concentrated, develop technology, and open factories. "
"Now it depends on the difference in silver prices, and in the future it will still depend on efficiency. "
"I don't worry about what you worry about. "
"What I worry about is that I am worried about the future deregulation. If the huge amount of silver from Europe is used to buy and hoard land instead of setting up factories as Xingguo Gong thought, then there will be trouble. If it accumulates for a few more years, if annexation is not suppressed, the foreign silver that is loosened in a year may be able to buy half of Jiangxi's land, right? "
"Governing a big country is like cooking a small fish. It is not good to be loose or tight. The trouble of this dynasty is still suppressing annexation."
"I look at the affairs of the thirteen states in North America. Hey... the land is privately owned and can be bought and sold. There is no feudal nobility. Merchants can speculate on land. The priests are responsible for education. The main thing is self-cultivation. Good family sons... Now that this dynasty has sent troops, France also has to protect the North. The United States, in the future, will block its road to development in the west... It has also relaxed its internal restrictions on obscene minor religions. If it cannot take the key step of industry and commerce as the main and agriculture as the auxiliary as mentioned by the Duke of Xingguo, with the increase in population and the increasing number of immigrants, it will inevitably be "the blue sky is dead, the yellow sky should be established, the year is Jiazi, and the world is auspicious" in the future! "
Speaking of this, Li Xi couldn't help laughing out loud, and said with great interest: "You will see, this time the various sects here will divide the religion and debate the scriptures again. Those who follow the lower sects will definitely cause the Yellow Turban and White Lotus Rebellion in the future."
The trade ambassador basically agreed with this judgment.
Even the other senior naval officials here also agreed.
As people of the new school, they are also the first to see the world, and they can always see further.
It's not arrogance, nor is it self-deprecation, but simply feel that the Calvinist Puritans who crossed the Atlantic to North America more than a hundred years ago and came up with something are more familiar than the European ones.
If we ask what Europe can learn from trade now, there is actually nothing to learn.
How to learn? What to learn?
Learn from the British "Listed Commodities Act" or learn from France to use labor to build roads and suppress rum to protect the domestic wine industry?
There is really no need to learn these things.
Moreover, this set of things has always been a political mistake in the Confucian circles of Dashun, and it has been a political mistake since the Han Dynasty.
As for the view from the perspective of the empire, looking at the "coinage and printing" issue that was previously a hot topic between North America and Britain, including the issue that Franklin was fighting for in London at this time, the view of Dashun can only be said that Britain does not know how to manage a country.
At the Salt and Iron Conference that year, there was a debate on whether private coinage should be allowed. The consequences of allowing local governments to mint their own coins were seen in the Han Dynasty.
Although allowing private coinage can be regarded as political correctness after the Salt and Iron Conference. However, in fact, all dynasties that have the ability to manage it have always been very vigilant about this matter.
Including the previous Ming Dynasty, when discussing "using copper coins" or "using silver". The faction against silver made it clear that using silver as currency was equivalent to the court giving the right to mint coins to merchants, and something would go wrong sooner or later.
It is said that one can polish jade with stones from other mountains.
Or, one can learn from history to understand the rise and fall of nations.
After all, the situation in Europe was far from what they were familiar with. Including France, although France was nicknamed "Little China in Europe" in terms of centralization, the difference between it and Dashun in terms of land system, taxation system, land ownership, industrial and commercial control, etc. was still huge.
On the contrary, looking at the situation in North America, whether it was the land system, private ownership, disorderly development of industry and commerce, and merchants hoarding land, etc.
It really felt like one could polish jade with stones.
The first version of the city on the hill that the group of Calvinist Puritans in North America envisioned at the beginning was purely a special adaptation of the set of things that Dashun was very familiar with, without a hereditary aristocracy, a king, and no foreign enemies such as the Huns and the Yellow River flooding threats.
Self-employed farmers, small producers, private ownership of land, land trading allowed, "tangible saints" responsible for education, merchants quickly accumulating wealth to rival a country, religious hierarchy of scholars, farmers, merchants and artisans... The productivity level is ox-plowing, ridge cultivation, blast furnace iron...
This group of people should not be too familiar with this set of things. They know better than the North American group that if the land is reclaimed, the western development is stuck, and the population increases, the technology is stuck in ox-plowing, ridge cultivation, and manual cloth rubbing, which cannot be broken through, what will this set of things eventually become.
At this time, in the whole world, no one understands "land private ownership, self-employed farmers, religious hierarchy of scholars, farmers, merchants and artisans, and free land trading" under the productivity level of "ox-plowing, ridge cultivation, blast furnace iron" better than Dashun.
Really no one.
Including the Korean country that calls itself "Little China", Dashun is a million miles away. At the very least, on the basic issues of economic rights such as land system, private ownership, and land trading, it is far less similar to North America and Dashun. Let alone Japan. It is true that they all read the Analects, but they are very different on the issue of "ownership".
If the western border is really blocked and the technology is still stuck at the level of ox-drawn plows and blast furnaces, I guess in a few years even the inheritance law at the bottom will spontaneously move towards the direction of "dividing the family equally".
Everyone present felt the same way, and the trade ambassador said, "That's true."
"Mergers are very difficult in Europe. For example, in Russia, the land is given to people by village serfs and nobles; in the Holy Roman Empire, the land is divided among manors and farmers. It cannot be bought or sold, so there is no merger."
"Only in North America, mergers are now common."
Thinking of this, the trade ambassador couldn't help laughing and said, "If you grow tobacco in the central states, you have to borrow money to make it work. And if you borrow money, you may not be able to pay it back. If you can't pay it back, the lender will take back the land. As far as I know, many lenders have merged tens of thousands of acres of land."
"It's just that there is still land that is easy to cultivate in the west. If it's gone, you can either distribute the land equally and exempt the grain tax, or divide the land into tenants to seek stability. Will they have food to eat?"
"So, I think what Duke Xingguo said is right. France must be stuck in North America and cannot retreat. The Romance of the Three Kingdoms and the Romance of the Four Kingdoms are easier to deal with than our dynasty occupying the west coast and competing with them for land."
"That's the thing. The extra people must go to the West. The descendants of the Yin people here may not be able to stop them, just like the Mongols could not stop us from cultivating the Mongols."
"With more people, they need food and land. It's not the strip field system, nor the well field system, but the private field trading system. Sooner or later, it will come to this point."
"In the future, because of land issues, the border will not be stable. One more country will be one more vertical and horizontal restraint. Millions of self-cultivating farmers and good families are really big enemies."
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