New Shun 1730

Simply put.

According to the traditional "tianxia" experience.

The Kyushu issue is a basic issue.

If the Kyushu problem is solved, then the border areas will naturally be solved as well.

Once the border areas are resolved, the problems of traditional tributary countries and new areas such as Nanyang will also be resolved.

It can be said that this is a traditional political idea.

It's basically correct.

Who can complete the unification and stabilize Kyushu's basic market, then the border areas, tributary states, and Jisi areas will never be a problem.

Now that a battle has been won, under Li Huan's "new world order, new etiquette" thinking, it is just an expansion of the past tradition.

Etiquette is the rules. Put it internationally, that is, the international order.

If we change things, the international order would still be the same. Whether it is called international law or a new free trade system, it is almost the same thing. It is nothing more than changing the content of the "rules", but the logic of operation is still the same - Emperor Zhou can directly handle it all. When Hou Peng was killed, all the rituals and music were there; when the Emperor of Zhou was shot in the shoulder by Zheng Zhuanggong, the rituals and music were nothing.

As for the current situation, Dashun, which won the war after World War I, is the "China" country. The core area of ​​"China" is also the key to China's "China".

However, there are huge differences among the people within Dashun on "how to solve the problems in Jiuzhou" and "what are the main conflicts in Jiuzhou".

Some differences are visible to the naked eye.

Some of the disagreements were caused by walking hand in hand at first, but then they got sidetracked and broke up.

In some cases, it seems that there are no differences, but in fact the differences have appeared at the very beginning.

So, does Liu Yu support Li Ye?

Obviously, Liu Yu basically supports Li Ye's idea.

First of all, he originally supported the direct creation of a capitalist agricultural system in newly cultivated areas. And, at least this is much more efficient than the spontaneous migration of small farmers.

Secondly, no matter what Li Han thinks, the final result will be that through land and agriculture, some people's capital will be accumulated. With the adoption of new technologies, these surplus capitals will spontaneously flow in, at least part of them will flow into the industry.

Thirdly, the severe transformation pain within Dashun does involve the issue of insufficient land per capita. If the land per capita is sufficient, the transformation will only be painful, but not fatal; but if the land per capita is insufficient, the transformation will not only be painful, but will cost tens of millions or even hundreds of millions.

No matter what Li Han's original intention was, if he could complete large-scale population migration, then he would have completed his specific mission at a specific historical stage.

Still the same sentence.

In the early days of North America, there was also an economic model in which men farmed and women weaved, and even the wool textile industry in some areas developed in this way. But why is the reaction not so big after being shocked?

Because I have 160 acres of land, my wife’s money for weaving has been affected. The worst case scenario is that she should stop knitting cloth and farm the land to buy cloth. The income may drop a bit, but it’s not unbearable. Sell ​​two more carts of corn.

Including saying that the "Whiskey Duty Act" caused the yeoman farmer's grain income to plummet and the sideline cottage industry of winemaking collapsed, leading to the Whiskey Rebellion. But at the end of the rebellion, Nao and Nao captured two people, and then they went back to their homes to find their mothers.

Dashun is my family’s ten acres of land. My wife’s spinning is directly related to whether the family can pay taxes, pay rent, afford salt, and make a pair of cotton trousers to wear in winter.

If this was suddenly attacked, there would really be no other way to survive except to rise up.

For example, the basic routine of some poor peasants in the western Shandong area to spend the winter: the wife spins two pounds of cotton to weave, sells it for four pounds of cotton, continues spinning and weaving, and then sells it for eight pounds of cotton... and finally completes a family. New clothes for the new year.

Once this routine breaks, can this family survive?

In the same small-scale peasant economy, men farm and women weave, and face the impact of industrialization. Will your family's 100 acres of land face the same impact as your family's 10 acres of land?

Therefore, there is nothing wrong with finding ways to relocate people. Even if you can quickly relocate people, you have to be able to use the billions of acres of overseas land to carry out land enclosure movements internally. As long as you can suppress it, you have the ability to quickly force more than 200 million people overseas. Farming, that’s no problem, as long as you can handle it.

Because industry and commerce can indeed accommodate hundreds of millions of people.

However, this requires a long process, rather than saying that "with a simple move of the brain, an open mind, or by clicking a button, signing a decree, or swiping, industry and commerce can accommodate more than 200 million people."

It is foreseeable that for a long time, even if industry and commerce develop, farmers' problems will still be Dashun's primary problem.

Moreover, the migrating population and the increase in per capita land possession of resources are also enlarging and enlarging the market.

Basically, Dashun's first-mover areas are already certain to be able to capture all industries within their sphere of influence, and there will be no competition for the time being. This in turn can accommodate a larger industrial and commercial population.

In general, Li Han's idea is basically feasible.

Take for example his talk of “eliminating the sugar industry in India”.

If only it were done.

Nanyang needs about hundreds of thousands more laborers for sugar production and sugar cane cutting every year.

The Northeast region can add hundreds of thousands of labor forces for planting soybeans, pressing oil, pressing soybean cakes, and transporting them.

These hundreds of thousands of people need food, clothes, and basic consumption.

They can also drive the flue-cured tobacco industry, soap manufacturing, textile industry, shipbuilding industry, iron smelting industry, etc. in Jiangsu and Shandong regions, and accommodate more industrial and commercial population.

At the same time, because the rotation pattern of sorghum-soybean-sorghum required for soybean planting at this time can greatly alleviate the food crisis, stabilize food prices, and in turn promote further declines in food prices in coastal areas, providing a good foundation for the development of industry and commerce.

It also lays a good foundation for the disintegration of the traditional tenancy system in convenient transportation areas:

The landlord collects rent in kind, and collects only three or five buckets, so the low grain price hurts the landlord. If they had the ability, they would have come up with the "Grain Law" of Dashun, which would have directly triggered the war in the first-developed areas. The bourgeoisie, citizens, workers, plantation owners in Northeast and Southeast Asia, as well as a large number of military nobles who benefited from this, agricultural workers, etc., united to declare war on traditional landlords and demanded that the obstruction of grain price reduction be prohibited. The new nobles of Dashun did not earn their income from rent. Their butts determined their heads. It had nothing to do with them that low grain prices hurt farmers. In fact, many of them were the cause of "low grain prices".

If they did not collect rent in kind but collected rent in currency, they would have collected three or five more buckets. As a result, [some returned the rent to the landlords and prepared to become a clean pauper; some slipped away and quietly climbed onto the fourth-class train to Shanghai].

Of course, the "Shanghai" here is a pseudonym. Under the existing conditions of Dashun, this includes crossing Guandong, going to Southeast Asia, crossing to Fusang, and also going to Weihai to build ships, going to Fenglin Bay to cut trees, going to Jinshan to build houses, going to Songsu to work, and going to coal mines to dig coal, etc.

What needs to be paid attention to is the west coast of Fusang.

There are trees, coal, iron, the Golden Valley suitable for growing cotton, the Mediterranean climate suitable for drying salt, the barrier of the distant ocean, and Liu Yu's policy of supporting the development of industry and commerce there instead of using it as a dumping colony, so that there can be self-circulation and circulation around the Atlantic Ocean and the east of the Appalachian Mountains.

However, the Nanyang, the Southern Ocean, the Northeast and other places are different from Fusang - where soybeans are grown, cotton cannot be grown; where cotton is grown, iron tools are lacking; where iron tools are made, light industrial products such as sugar cotton cloth are lacking.

Therefore, transporting ten people to Fusang solves the problem of ten people.

And in the vicinity of the core area, relocating ten people may actually change the fate of twenty people within the overall economic cycle.

In short, from the beginning of policy formulation, the "centrifugal" of Xinyizhou, Fenglinwan, Jinshan and other places was actually inevitable. Because Liu Yu has been encouraging and stimulating the development of industry and commerce there from the beginning, relying on the industry and commerce there to attract people.

Relying on small farmers to migrate spontaneously and cross the 15,000-kilometer Pacific route is purely a fantasy.

Therefore, from the beginning, Liu Yu's policy was to encourage the Fusang immigration area to participate in the American trade cycle.

And the Heilongjiang River Basin, Nanyang and other places, with the deepening of economic ties and the surge in the number of Han people, should be regarded as the basic plate.

From this point of view, it is also beneficial to engage in capitalist agriculture in these areas.

This also helps to increase centripetal force. With close economic ties, it becomes a complete system in the economic cycle, and no one can do without each other.

Judging from Li Li's current thinking, the overall idea is basically determined.

As for.

In the future, there will be a study, such as "On the Elimination of Poverty" to engage in reclamation and migration of agricultural villages, integrate the ideas of the retro Confucian school, and pull their support to do things, recognize that the power of the organized masses is strong, put on Li Zicheng's blindfold, and do things under the banner of the emperor of small farmers.

Or, they are colluding with those people in the new school who actually want to be the superiors, secretly communicating with the big bourgeoisie in the developed areas to win their support, flirting with the military nobles and promising to reward them with land after the railway is built in the future so that they can work together to do something big, and engaging in such coups and mutinies.

Liu Yu feels that it doesn't matter anymore.

These two, at this stage, are actually the same thing.

"On the Elimination of Poverty" does not oppose industry and commerce, nor does it oppose private ownership, nor does it oppose the existing land system.

It just hopes to solve the problems of widespread poverty, cyclical turmoil, and low industrial wages through the assumed existence of "wasteland that can be cultivated and quickly integrated into market transactions."

Colluding with the bourgeoisie in the developed areas and flirting with the military nobles, it does not oppose industry and commerce, nor does it oppose private ownership, and it is even less likely to oppose the existing land system.

It just hopes to complete the temporary reconciliation between classes: capitalists, let's discuss and stop thinking about the small farmers' land. I have found a lot of land suitable for investment and high returns for you overseas and in the frontiers. Let's go there. When we get there, I will directly transfer the state-owned land to you at a low price. After that, if you want a market, I will fight for you; if you want to open the door of another country, I will use the money from the treasury to organize a fleet to blow it up for you.

You see, if you always think about eating the small farmers' land, by the time the heavens are dead and the yellow heavens are up, they will smash it to pieces and hang us all on the crooked tree, which is not good, right?

For commercial or financial capital, of course, they like small peasant economy and land transactions the most. If the suppression of mergers and acquisitions is really relaxed, the commercial and financial capital groups that have been formed in the advanced areas of Dashun will completely wipe out the small farmers in a few years: lending, land mortgage, usury, price manipulation, money price manipulation, just playing around, the small farmers under the private ownership of small plots of land will be completely killed.

But obviously, if he plays this way, he will be backfired and will directly trigger the most thorough "emphasis on agriculture and neglect of commerce" and "equal distribution of land is not easy".

Li Li saw this clearly.

Therefore, he did not dare to touch the existing land system of Dashun, and wanted to leverage industrial and commercial capital, and knew that his base was these industrial and commercial groups and the new school forces behind them.

Then, he could only reconcile.

Maybe he could touch the landlords and force them to transform. However, he dared not touch the small peasant ownership.

The landlords in the first-developed areas were not his base, so he could offend them.

Anyway, these people would not support him.

Although the small peasants were not his base, they won great "united front" value through the heroic spirits of Chen Sheng and Wu Guang, the Green Forest and Red Eyebrows, Zhang Jiao and Zhang Bao, Wang Xianzhi and Huang Chao, Wang Xiaobo and Li Shun, Li Zicheng and Zhang Xianzhong, etc. - I can kill you, so you have to think about it.

Therefore, in essence, he actually relied on the emerging class, and obviously tried to make them the base, by reconciling contradictions, suppressing the financial bourgeoisie's devouring of small farmers, and encouraging industrial development.

If he had ambitions.

However, at least, Liu Yu was very satisfied with the idea of ​​relocating people to cultivate the land.

In any case, Li Xi's idea was still a capitalist idea, not an old idea.

At least, Li Xi knew how to use the real legacy of Dashun's going to Southeast Asia and winning a war.

Understand the essence of Liu Yu's desire to kill India's cotton textile industry.

Know that the protection system in the colonial era was not only a way for the country to impose protection taxes and subsidies, but also that the protection system could be achieved through the country's force to destroy the relevant industries in the territory.

As long as you understand it in general, there is really no need to discuss the specific details. Having already established a firm foothold in India, with troops, warships, and control over customs, how to kill the local cotton textile industry and transform it into cotton planting and spinning, how to kill the local sugar industry and protect the sugar industry in Southeast Asia, if you can't do this, then you are extremely incompetent, and you can't do anything else.

In this case, as for other things, Liu Yu felt that there was really no need to ask any more.