New Shun 1730
Chapter 576 Another Fantasy (Part 2)
The last sentence broke Cai Shiwu's defense.
He was not a native Chinese from Jiugang, but escaped from the Celestial Empire. How could he not know the power of the Celestial Empire's officials?
Although Banga had some tin mines, if it were in the Celestial Empire, it would at most be in the eyes of the governor of the state, and it would not even reach the level of the prefect.
The Sultan of Jiugang also had an imperial envoy, but were the imperial envoys of the Sultan of Jiugang the same as those of the Celestial Empire?
Although the last words were extremely unpleasant, Cai Shiwu believed it.
Isn't it true that in the eyes of the Celestial Empire's imperial envoys, the fight between them and the mine owners was just as fun as watching cockfighting and cricket fighting?
He was not afraid of the mine owners, but was afraid that the Celestial Empire would help the mine owners. If the Celestial Empire really did not help either side, it would be good. He never expected the great magistrate to be able to uphold justice.
"If the imperial envoy doesn't help either side, how can you tie me up?"
"Nonsense, do you want me, a marquis, to go deep into the mine to work and ask who is the leader? When the mine owner invited me to a banquet, he mentioned some restless people, so I was a little curious."
"Curious?"
Cai Shiwu didn't understand what he meant, and Liu Yu smiled and said, "I'm curious about what you are going to do."
"Look, this mine belongs to the Sultan of Jiugang. The Sultan of Jiugang contacted the Dutch and only allowed the Dutch to buy tin. The Sultan's side is 11 silver dollars per load, and the mine owner who subcontracted it to you is 7 or 8 silver dollars per load, and the chief of Jiugang will make a profit from the difference."
"A small chief in Jiugang, you dare to call yourself a sultan? The tin mine in Banga is probably the biggest source of wealth for Jiugang. In this way, the tin mine is related to the interests of Jiugang and the Dutch, not just Those mine owners. If you start a rebellion, this is an island, won't you be trapped here to death? And cutting off someone's financial resources is like killing their parents, so we must encircle and suppress them. "
"If it were ten years ago, you could still take the opportunity to start a rebellion, hijack a ship, and go to the sea to have fun. Or become a pirate, or go to a place to be independent."
"But now the Dutch have a monopoly on the sale of tin blocks, and I don't think you can drive a Western soft sailing ship, so you can't run away. If you can be a sailor, you probably won't mine here, right?"
"So I'm curious, are you just reckless men who are brave and reckless, and you will die if you die, so you live happily before you die? Or is there any good way to consider what will happen after you do it?"
Hearing the imperial envoy in front of him say "hijack a ship to go to sea, or become a pirate, or be independent", Cai Shiwu was also quite shocked.
They really thought about this idea.
At that time, they were considering doing a job, robbing the property of those mine owners who usually oppressed them, hijacking the ship and running away, and going to the sea to have fun.
But the reason why it didn't work was exactly what Liu Yu said.
Every year when they come to buy goods, they make the most money, and it's real money, not worthless tin coins out of the mine.
However, the Dutch got the monopoly from the Sultan of Palembang, and only the Dutch can buy tin. If the sea merchants of Dashun want to buy tin, they have to go through the Dutch.
And in the mine, there are people who can control the Fu ships, but there is really no one who can drive away the Dutch soft sailing ship with full confidence. This makes this plan impossible to implement.
As for the rest, Liu Yu also analyzed it very clearly. If it were in the Celestial Empire, the tin mine in Bangka would not be considered a big source of wealth.
But here, it is an important source of wealth for the Sultan of Palembang, and it is also related to the Dutch tin block trade. The benefits are huge, and it can be said that it involves people from several parties.
Cutting off someone's wealth is like killing their parents. If they really start a rebellion, they will have to face the joint strangulation of several parties, which is not as simple as dealing with the mine owner.
Even this kind of detail that they, who are quite prestigious among the miners, have discussed many times can be thought of. Cai Shiwu has already believed Liu Yu's words, and he may really just come for fun.
Indeed, in front of the Celestial Empire, the power of this group of people is so fragile and not worth mentioning. They may be like cockfighting and cricket fighting in the eyes of the Celestial Empire's imperial envoy, pure playthings.
If it is just a plaything like watching ants fight, it seems to be a good thing to let this group of people leave by saying it out.
But even so, Cai Shiwu is not ready to tell everything, but avoids some key issues.
"We are ready to start an uprising. All men and women are brothers and sisters."
"In the future, the income from mining will be divided equally among the workers. Eleventh of it will be put into the public treasury to help the widowed, the orphaned and the lonely."
"Host a consumer club and buy grain, oil, rice and flour according to the needs of everyone. We do not seek profit, but only to facilitate everyone and sell at cost price."
"Each mine has more than a hundred people as a family, and brothers and sisters undertake it separately. Except for eleventh of it going into the public treasury to help the widowed, the orphaned and the lonely, the rest of the profits will be shared equally among brothers and sisters."
"Ban opium, all brothers and sisters are not allowed to eat opium. Those who have been addicted will help everyone to quit."
"Equally distribute the land, the population of the state, regardless of whether it is male or female, will be divided into their own land, and it cannot be bought or sold. Eleventh of it will be put into the public treasury."
"Today, the suffering of the people in the world is all because everyone is selfish and has no love or affection. In order to seek benefits, they will do anything and have no care. Everyone is an enemy, fighting, cheating, and oppressing each other."
"It is necessary for everyone to be brothers and sisters, loving and helping each other. In this way, the great way will be practiced. People will not only love their relatives and their children, but also ensure that the elderly have a place to live, the strong have a place to work, and the young have a place to grow. The poor, widows, orphans, the lonely, and the disabled will all be taken care of. Men have their share and women have their home. Goods are not worth seeing thrown away, so they don't have to hide them; strength is not worth not being used, so it is not worth using it. Therefore, conspiracies will not arise, thefts and robberies will not happen, and the outer doors will not be closed."
Cai Shiwu avoided many key points.
Although the description of the world being one and the same was added at the end, Liu Yu learned Western learning from Dai Jinxian, the vice president of the Chinese region of the Society of Jesus. Even if the description of the world being one and the same was added to cover up the flavor, the flavor was too strong...
The flavor of the fusion of the Christian Utopian Society and the local scholars was so strong that it made Liu Yu dizzy.
This was definitely not an idea that could have emerged in Dashun, because the main problem of Dashun was land, and it was absolutely impossible to think of the idea of cooperative equality and consumer society profit-free.
Obviously, this was a set of methods suitable for the mining area that was developed by integrating the characteristics of the Banga mining area and following the Bible and the Book of Rites.
If it were not for Christianity, it would be difficult to attribute the problems of the world to "all because everyone is selfish and has no love or affection", and it would be impossible to describe the contradictions in places like Nanyang where capitalism has sprouted deeply as "people are like a war between people, hostile to each other. The system that lacks fraternity, selfishness, and violates the law of love is the root of everything".
Although there are many fantasies in Dashun, the flavor of fantasies there is not this flavor.
Rather, it is the "retro flavor" envisioned by He Xinyin, Huang Zongxi, Li Zhen, Yan Yuan and others.
They attempt to force modern means of production and exchange back into the framework of the old ownership relations that have been broken through and will inevitably be broken through. It is basically equivalent to putting a child who has already shown his head back into the mother's belly.
It is He Xinyin's Cuihetang: an idealized agricultural patriarchal system, with all aspects of marriage, funerals, sacrifices, taxes and labor service. With the patriarchal system as the core, it strives for clan harmony, private law within the family, and clan power is supreme.
It is the retro conception of the Yanli School: equal distribution of fields, well fields, the government collects eleven taxes, and strictly prohibits buying and selling; abolishing the imperial examination, and the village recommends local sages; farmers and soldiers are integrated, and the professional warrior system is restored; strictly reviewing the four-class system, industrialists and businessmen are not allowed to buy and sell land; prohibiting hiring people for farming.
It all sounds good, but if you think about it carefully, it is purely against the times.
The mainstream fantasy of Dashun, or the fantasy based on Confucianism, smells similar to what Cai Shiwu said, but if you taste it carefully, you can taste that it is completely different.
The core of the latter is the idealized patriarchal system, guild system, and pure feudal system without any buds, which is to restore Zhouli feudalism.
The core of the former is fraternity, justice, anti-selfishness, morality, and primitive egalitarianism.
Liu Yu laughed and shook his head repeatedly, thinking that this set of fantasy is also useless. Is it to build Bangga into a paradise on earth?
Cai Shiwu felt that he had not revealed too much, but Liu Yu's nose was stung by the smell. After laughing for a while, he said, "Okay, although I am not a Catholic, my teacher is, and I know a little bit. The person who proposed this must be a Christian. The key is that this thing is not right."
"Since it is said that the root of all evil in the world is the lack of love, which leads to selfishness and competition among people. Then isn't buying cheap and selling expensive? Since you are doing business, you still have to sell mines. Isn't that a contradiction? It seems that Catholics think that doing business is a sin, right? No Yes, it is a sin to buy low and sell high, but if you don't buy high and sell low, you can't do business. "
Cai Shiwu also had to shake his head and said: "Although I don't understand it very well, I have heard him preach. He said that people who engage in buying low and selling high are not condemned in two situations, and they do not violate benevolence and morality. "
"One is to obtain appropriate profits to support the family or help the poor. Instead of investing the profit into reproduction and continuing to expand profits. "
"The other is unintentional. When buying, you don't think about selling at a high price, but if you really sell it at a high price, it is both It's unintentional. If prices change, it's not your fault if you sell. "
"We are the first type. We sell and make a profit to feed the elderly and children and help the poor. We don't sell to make money, hire more people, or make more money...so it's not a sin."
"And we sell things for no profit. It's just for the convenience of everyone. For example, if we don't produce food and cloth, we buy them from outside and sell them to those who need them at a fair price."
"When Liu Yu heard this, he couldn't help laughing and said, "Nonsense! Don't put your hopes on love, benevolence, and things like that."
"I'm not fighting either. "You are the mine owners, but you hire cheaper people to work. You share the profits, and the new people only do the hard work." "If you want to play like this, don't bother. It's useless to bother. You are not on the right track." "But you are also some people. How about this, I will give you a way out, you follow me to join the army, how about that? Not only you, I want to take all the leaders away with me."
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