New Shun 1730

"You recognize me?"

I have been traveling to Songjiang a lot in the past few years, and people in Nanyang speak either Min or Cantonese. I really didn’t expect to hear such an accent here.

"Uncle Ying Sao often went to Songjiang in the past to lure people by showing off gold and silver to attract investors. I have met him a few times. Besides, Uncle Ying Sao played a huge role in banning my Catholicism. How could I not recognize him?"

This man showed no fear and greeted Liu Yu calmly. Although he knew Liu Yu's identity, he could not kneel down.

Liu Yu was also curious, looked at it a few times, and asked, "What's your name?"

"Paul."

"I didn't ask for your Christian name."

"Xu Gyu."

"When did you join the religion?"

"Baptized since childhood."

"Both parents?"

"right."

"Have you read the classics of famous religions? You also know the saying that the world will be unified. You should have read it."

"Before the ban on teaching, I was selected as a scholar, but because I refused to quit teaching, I was dismissed."

Hearing that he was a stubborn person with a bit of backbone, Liu Yu couldn't help but laugh and said: "Okay, he is a character. You pretended to change your faith and regretted it later. You just said you changed your faith in a secret letter. Who can get through it?" Do you want to see it in your heart?"

The man raised his head, glanced at Liu Yu with disdain, sneered, and said slowly: "My grandmother was an abandoned baby back then. She was abandoned because she was a girl at birth. Thanks to the great scholar Xu Guangqi of the former dynasty, My granddaughter, whose Christian name is Gan Dadi, donated money to charity to save the abandoned baby, so that my grandmother could survive. Without my grandmother, where would I be?"

"A loyal minister will not serve two masters, and a virgin will not serve two husbands. When the time comes to choose, I would rather be dismissed than apostate."

"In Songjiang and other places, there are more than thousands of baby girls who have benefited from Gan Dadi's good deeds and have been rescued by the church. There are more than thousands of widows and widowers who have been sheltered by the church? This is truly a great kindness."

"Sisters who are religious, embroider for love, help the poor, save baby girls, give medicine and medicine."

"But I don't know that Uncle Ying Suo has a millionaire, but what has he done? How many people have he saved?"

"There are many people in the world who say they are benevolent and righteous, and all those who are officials are called benevolent and righteous. But how many people are there who are benevolent and righteous?"

"When I read the classics of famous religions, I only feel that there are thousands of things said, but in the end there is a difference between superior and inferior, and there is a certain level of superiority and inferiority. Those who cannot come down from the Heavenly Father are all brothers and sisters, and there is no love and kindness. The injustice in the world is all due to this. Worry. There are so many sufferings in this world. I teach with my own body, but I don’t regret it.”

Liu Yu studied with Dai Jinxian when he was a child, and he had heard some things about Catholicism. When Xu Guangqi’s granddaughter passed away, the President of the Society of Jesus asked Jesuit churches around the world to hold masses for him and recite three rosaries. Basically, missionaries in China at that time respectfully called her “our mother.” ".

It can be said that Catholicism can reach Henan and Chongqing only because of its strength. Because the Xu family is a prominent family in Songjiang, prominent families marry each other.

As long as the imperial examination is not changed, wealthy families can always appoint people to become officials. Their sons and relatives have all become high-ranking officials in the court, traveling all over the country and developing everywhere.

Since this person's grandmother was thrown away as an abandoned baby and was rescued and raised by the Catholic Church, this matter is easy to understand.

It is indeed true that when Catholicism was first established in Rome, Gaul and other places, it followed the lower-class route, helping, helping each other, helping to build houses, digging wells, and caring for the sick... In this regard, Confucianism, which does not follow the lower-class route, is indeed No comparison.

This man mocked Liu Yu and asked how many people Liu Yu had saved. Liu Yu was not embarrassed or blushing, he just smiled and said nothing.

"So you have also been to Macau. Is Macau a paradise? Do you think that believing in this thing can really unite the world?"

There was a hint of confusion on Xu Gui's face. In the past few years in Macau, he had seen a lot of dark sides.

But immediately, he became determined again.

“The people there have forgotten the righteousness of the Lord, they are greedy and shameless, and sin thrives.”

"Hahahaha... If everyone was a gentleman, then the world would be unified." Xu Gui said sarcastically, "There are many flaws in the meaning of the famous religion. The Christian religion can make up for it, go ahead. The essence is obtained from the dregs. If not, what is a gentleman? Does taking a concubine hinder a gentleman? Does forcing a woman to bind her feet hinder a gentleman? "

Liu Yu laughed and said, "Have you ever seen Confucius or Mencius say that they should bind their feet?"

"Uncle Ying Sao has also read the books of the sages. How can he teach people to be greedy? What Ying Sao did in Songjiang, seeking the development of industry and commerce, has brought chaos to the world! After talking about a gentleman, a gentleman wants a world of great harmony. Ying Sao Bochu develops industry and commerce, encourages profit-making, and lures people with profits in Songjiang. Isn't this the opposite of the way of a gentleman? "

Hearing that he was being a gentleman and a villain again, Liu Yu couldn't help but pick his ears and scolded with a smile: "When I was in the capital, I was retorted like this. I'm really tired of hearing it. You have been expelled from your reputation, and you don't believe in your reputation either." "Teach me, what kind of gentleman and villain are you talking about? Then in the eyes of you true Catholics, what I did has caused chaos in the world?"

He didn't take it seriously, just out of the consideration of knowing himself and the enemy, he wanted to hear what this fantasy guy had in mind, so that he could deal with it in a targeted manner.

Xu Gui lowered his head and recalled what he had seen from Shanghai, Songjiang, and even Guangzhou and Macau.

In these places, in Liu Yu’s words, they are called the places where capitalism sprouts.

But in Xu Gui's eyes, what he sees is: human beings have lost their souls, have lost their morals, are selfish, charge high prices and pay back on the spot, buy cheap and sell high, cheat and kidnap, all for money, all for profit. . Money is like the devil. There is no longer love between people, but everyone is an enemy. Gold and silver become the standard by which everything is measured.

When I got to work as a coolie in Bangga, I witnessed an even darker side.

In Xu Gui's view, the root of all evil is "production for the purpose of accumulating gold and silver."

For example, in mining, in his opinion, tin is of course a good thing. It can be used to make wine bottles and utensils, which can make life better. But the tin in the eyes of the mine owners is not tin, but money waiting to be bought. The more they dig, the more money they make, and accumulating gold and silver becomes the purpose of mining.

The workshops, industries and commerce that Liu Yu set up in Songjiang were all based on the same routine, for money, to make money.

It digs out all the most selfish things in people's hearts and makes them obey the devil's desires. If this continues, one day the world will turn into hell.

In the Dashun court, Liu Yu was a villain, a villain who took advantage without any righteousness.

In the eyes of a somewhat utopian Catholic like Xu Gui, Liu Yu is the incarnation of the devil.

Not much difference.

But since Liu Yu satirized him and said that he was no longer even a scholar and was not qualified to talk about a gentleman or a villain, Xu Gui took a deep breath and said: "Since Ying Suobo studied with President Dai, has he ever read "Summa Theologica"? "

"Summa Theology?"

Hearing the title of the book, Liu Yu suddenly laughed and nodded repeatedly: "I have never read it, but I have heard it before. You know, this thing you believe in is spread among the elite circles in the capital. There are two major difficulties.”

"The first is what Xu Guangqi said. Among the Ten Commandments, the most difficult one to abide by is the prohibition of taking concubines. In the past, those who preached in the noble circles in the capital always found women to teach this, but it was not very useful. . In my family’s Buddhist temple, the three saints, Tathagata Maitreya, and Holy Mother Christ coexist harmoniously. When I go out to fight, my mother will first look at the map to see who is in charge of the land, and then worship whoever it is.”

"Another difficulty is that loan sharking is not allowed. Who in your family does not lend money? We don't allow loan sharking. Who among us, your honor, believes in this religion? I remember that Mr. Dai used this "Summa Theologica" to talk about loan sharking. The interpretation of scriptures.”

"How do you say that? Oh, by the way, it's [the loan shark, not to give the lender the opportunity to lend, but to get a loan]. Not guilty."

"Similarly, people who lend money [can be regarded as not doing it to make a profit, but to fulfill the borrower's desire to get a loan. The lender takes a certain risk and collects the return he deserves for the risk." ]. Not guilty.”

"It's both right and wrong, so loan sharking can be allowed. After all, those who borrow are not guilty, and those who lend are not guilty."

Before the Great Liturgy Debate, in order to gain a foothold in China, the Jesuits were prepared to learn from Nestorian Christianity and make it as local as possible, and made many compromises and improvements.

In order to deceive Dashun's nobles into joining the religion, even the usury was relaxed a little.

When faced with a choice between money in this world and heaven after death, the nobles would of course choose money in this world. If loans are not allowed, who will become a believer? Many nobles are the masters of loan sharks. Relying on the interest of loan sharks, or people's blood and sweat grease, Liu Yu's family is not short of money anyway.

The Jesuits also understand that if they want to gain a foothold in China, they must take the upper-level route.

If it weren't for the rigidity of the Pope, I guess after a few years of hard work, Christianity with Chinese characteristics would no longer have a problem with concubinage. Before Li Leisi took refuge with Zhang Xianzhong in Chengdu, he was beaten many times. It was because he encouraged his concubine to divorce that monks and Taoist priests took the opportunity, and he was almost beaten to death.

Xu Gui didn't mean to say this when he mentioned the "Summa Theologiae". Listening to Liu Yu's words, it was so strange that he could tell that Liu Yu was satirizing the Jesuits and missionaries.

Lending can be done without guilt, but it is just a profit.

His face looked a little ugly. Knowing that Liu Yu was deliberately saying these shameless things, he nodded and said: "That Ying Suobo missed the most exciting content in it."

"Does Uncle Ying Sao know what a fair price is? Why is this thing sold at this price? Has Uncle Ying Sao ever thought about it?"

"After reading it, I was quite inspired."

“The fair price is determined neither by the will of the buyer nor by the will of the seller, but by the will of God.”

"God created everything and expressed his will through everything in the world. And in terms of price, the truly fair price is reflected in the labor required for each item."

“The more labor expended, the higher the fair price of the object, and the amount of labor expended on the object is a manifestation of God’s will.”

The standard natural law logic of academic classics made Liu Yu want to laugh in his heart, but he was unmoved. He spread his hands and asked: "So?"

Xu Gui's face suddenly showed a kind of fanaticism, his face turned crimson, and he said excitedly: "So, just follow the example of Western banks and banks, set up a special bank, evaluate the price of each item, and how much labor is equivalent to it."

"After I produce something, I deposit it in the bank and exchange it for an absolutely fair price. I use my fair price to buy whatever I want in the bank, and the exchange is absolutely fair."

"In this way, the wheat grown by farmers can be converted into a fair price, and the pots made by tinsmiths can also be converted into a fair price. In this way, there will be no price difference, and there will be no buying low and selling high."

"Farmers' land will not be annexed, because there will be no more low grain prices hurting farmers, or natural disasters raising prices; those who spin alone will not be squeezed out by those who invest money and work hard."

"Money can no longer make money, because money is no longer gold or silver, but just a reflection of how much you have done; small farmers and small households will not be exploited by big households and big merchants; a family doing small goods will not have to worry about being undercut by those who open workshops and do big business..."

"Isn't this the world of Datong? Isn't this the rule of the Three Dynasties?"

Liu Yu thought to himself, what is the essential difference between this and going back to the old ways, returning to the well-field system, the setting of prices by craftsmen and land officials, and keeping the illusions of small farmers and small producers alive? You are still a scholar, why do you still need to study the theology? Do you still need to learn from the West?

Xu Gui looked at Liu Yu expectantly, hoping that his words would make Liu Yu surrender and convinced by his reason.

Unexpectedly, Liu Yu laughed and shouted to the officer beside him: "Come here, gag him, tie him up, throw him into the cabin, and keep him under strict guard! Release him after passing Ceylon."

The officer acted quickly and sealed Xu Gui's mouth in an instant, so that he could only make a whimpering sound.

Liu Yu patted his face and smiled: "I will send you to France to let you see what a real church is like. There are many guys with similar fantasies like you there, so you can communicate with them and improve your knowledge level. Damn, maybe you can catch up with the prison with a gun on the street."

"Take him away! Lock him up!"