New Shun 1730

Chapter 709 Who got the biggest advantage?

"Go back to the Netherlands?"

The deputy commander of the fleet was a little surprised by this. He thought that we were surrendered prisoners of war. If we were not released back to the Netherlands, would we be imprisoned?

You even have battleships, and the naval gunnery is much better than that of the Dutch fleet, so what use do you need us?

"Your Majesty, Marquis, you should know that we all came to the East to make a fortune. What will your Majesty do with our private property? If your country wants to occupy the entire Southeast Asia, how will my property be calculated?"

As company employees, these captains are still very concerned about their assets in Batavia.

Liu Yu said that he wanted to bankrupt the East India Company. This was no joke.

Without the East India Company in the East Indies, wouldn't it be an empty shell?

It is impossible to support an annual interest rate of 18% by lending. To issue an annual interest rate of 18% means that the loan must have an interest of at least 20%. How can it be so easy to lend such a large amount of usury?

These captains came to the East just to make a fortune, and there was basically no other reason. Now that the company is about to collapse, the stocks in their hands are all useless. Those assets in Batavia are the basis for them to still be in the middle and upper class when they return to the Netherlands.

The officers around Liu Yu thought these Dutch people were very interesting. After losing, they still wanted personal property? What do these people think? This is completely different from the rules here in Dashun.

But Liu Yu said: "This is also simple. Of course your personal belongings will not be touched. But things like land are not yours at all. Have you worked on the land? You have increased the value of the land from wasteland to Is there a plantation? Obviously not. Of course, the property will be confiscated."

"In fact, you yourself know it very well. Batavia was built by the Chinese. As for silver coins, paintings, and handicrafts, I will definitely return these things to you."

"Besides, back then you plundered so many people from Zhoushan Islands and Penghu, and the number of Chinese who died because of Batavia was at least 8,000. Back then, 10 British people died on Ambon Island, and you paid 400,000 in compensation. The Chinese Eight thousand, at a price of 40,000 dong per person, you have to pay 320 million dong. I didn't calculate the compensation with you, even if it is enough to give you face, you should go back and tell the company's board of directors about the kindness and kindness of the company. lenient.”

The deputy commander of the fleet thought, nonsense, you do want it, but do you want it? When Cromwell asked for compensation for the massacre on Ambon Island, it was because the British fleet could point its guns at Amsterdam.

Now you have occupied Southeast Asia. If you don't occupy Southeast Asia and use Batavia as a threat to demand compensation, the company might pay compensation. But you want to take over the entire Southeast Asia, and you also want the company to go bankrupt and pay compensation? The board of directors is not stupid, you don’t return Southeast Asia, and you don’t have the ability to sail the gunboat to the Amstel River, so why should you lose money?

However, when it comes to the self-interests of these captains, they are relatively satisfied with Liu Yu's handling.

Regarding things like land and real estate, I didn't expect Dashun to give them discounted compensation after taking over Batavia.

If you can keep your personal personal property and cash, you can live a relatively stable life back in the Netherlands. If you have a better vision and invest in some stocks, you can still maintain a decent life for the middle and upper class.

Although they knew that what Liu Yu said about compensating the Chinese slave laborers who had been plundered back then was nonsense, thinking about their own private property, it was best to praise them a little more, and they all said: "We will remember the kindness of the Heavenly Kingdom. . Then when will the Marquis let us go back to the Netherlands?"

Liu Yu smiled and said: "The release must be released. But it is definitely not now. Firstly, China has a tradition of presenting prisoners in great victories, so you have to go to the capital; secondly, I need to show the Chinese Empire to the European countries. The level of armaments requires you to witness with your own eyes how I recaptured Nanyang."

"I said before that your company looks down on China. It neither attacked Weihaiwei ten years ago nor expanded its military to prepare for war. What does this prove? This proves that European countries do not have a correct understanding of the level of force of China."

"How can this be done? Without a correct understanding of China's military level, some subsequent negotiations will not be able to proceed. Maybe your board of directors is actually thinking about taking back Nanyang. I don't like fighting, so it's best to let you See how I destroyed Batavia and Malacca. After you go back, you can give the board of directors a clear understanding to avoid making wrong decisions. "

Speaking of this, Liu Yu simply mocked: "I have always been skeptical about the judgment of your company's board of directors. Such a good start can turn the company into this state; the crisis in the sugar industry ten years ago The board of directors actually couldn’t see...their pathetic and ridiculous judgment. I’m worried that they will make wrong decisions such as taking back Nanyang.”

Although he said this, in fact Liu Yu was not worried at all about the East India Company's move to regain Nanyang.

The main thing is to show off their muscles to the East India Company: tell the East India Company that Dashun can cover the entire Southeast Asia, can also monopolize all the supply of goods in Southeast Asia, and guarantee that it can withstand the erosion of Britain, France and other countries. I suggest you cooperate with China and work together to make money from people in Europe and America.

But these words sounded murderous to these captains.

You've already lost, but you still want to follow the whole process? As a full participant, see with your own eyes that the company’s foundation of operating in Southeast Asia for more than a hundred years has been uprooted?

This feeling is like being forced to watch how his girlfriend is taken over by someone else. That's not all. After watching the whole process, he has to write a review, telling himself that he can't compete, can't beat, be honest, and don't think about revenge.

It has to be said that this made these Dutch officers feel humiliated. Liu Yu said again: "My siege method is learned from Marshal Vauban. When he attacked Amsterdam all the way, he came up with a new siege method specifically for the Dutch bastion tactics. I just happened to use it to fight you Dutch."

"I heard from Hannibal that Marshal Vauban likes to find a bunch of visiting groups when he attacks the city. I should also maintain this tradition. By then, not only you, but also the kings, chiefs, sultans, and Buddhas of the Nanyang countries. If they don't understand the wonders of the Celestial Empire's combat power, you can explain it to them."

Obviously, this is to officially turn Nanyang into a sphere of influence, so that those small countries can witness the defeat of the Dutch, so that they can quickly accept the changes in reality and become tributary states of Dashun.

Since they couldn't even beat the Dutch, then Dashun, who had driven the Dutch away, would naturally be even more defeated. This is the truth that 1 is less than 2, so it must be less than 10.

When Liu Yu made the plan, he told everyone: Ceylon can surrender, so surrender, no need to show it to others, no one will see it; Nanyang can surrender but not surrender, and must fight with a momentum of collapse and cracking the earth, this must be done well for others to see.

For Dashun, winning is never a problem.

But war is the continuation of politics, and subsequent political problems are the most difficult problems.

Regardless of the court's future policy towards Nanyang, it will first show military force and suppress the ambitions of these small countries. Liu Yu estimated that if the fight is a little more fancy, it will shock at least thirty to fifty years.

At this time, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet has confirmed that Dashun is really preparing to uproot all the East India Company's bases in Southeast Asia, and it is by no means an empty talk. It seems that Dashun wants to take over the company's rule here in an all-round way, and may also inherit all the treaties signed by the company and the surrounding small countries.

He suddenly thought of a very critical question, looked back at the coastline that could no longer be seen in the distance, and asked: "Marquis, do you know the rebels around Batavia? I want to know, are those people supported by you? Or are they really supported by the British?"

Liu Yu looked at the Dutchman with a smile, and asked in a very calm tone: "Is there a difference? Do you think they have the support of the British behind them just because they use brown bass?"

This sentence did not admit that Dashun was supporting them behind them, nor did it deny that Britain was supporting them behind them.

The deputy commander of the Dutch fleet was stunned, and thought deeply about Liu Yu's words. Yes, do you think those rebels have the support of the British behind them just because they use brown bass guns?

I'm afraid not.

The competition between the British and them in Southeast Asia has lasted too long.

When trading in Guangzhou, Britain also fought openly and secretly with the Netherlands.

The Indian states such as Travancore were also supported by the British East India Company behind them. Since the first year of Tianqi, when Britain and the Netherlands jointly fought against Spain and Portugal, the two sides have been in a fierce competitive relationship in Southeast Asia and South Asia.

Indeed, it was not just because the rebels used brown bass that the Dutch suspected that the British were behind them.

Liu Yu added: "Can anyone alienate the relationship between France and the Ottoman Empire? No, because they have no conflict of interest."

"And the relationship between you and Britain is completely different from that between France and Turkey. For some things, the truth behind them is not important."

The truth is all things in the past and have already happened.

Since Liu Yu said that the truth is not important, the subtext is that the future is important.

The only thing the Dutch care about in the future of Southeast Asia is spices.

The Dutch deputy fleet commander is very sure that Dashun has no ability to sell spices to Europe.

The Swedes and Danes mainly sell tea and silk, and their sales channels can only sell these. Even if Dashun supplies them, the Netherlands has the ability to rely on its sales channel network that has been operating for more than a hundred years to make it difficult for them to ship goods.

Dashun needs a partner for export. And there are actually not many companies that are capable of selling goods in America and Western Europe. The biggest possibility is Britain.

However, the relationship between Dashun and France is relatively close. Liu Yu's relationship with the British was very tense, and the Lingdingyang incident clearly expressed Liu Yu's disgust for Britain.

Dashun may be able to obtain the spice production areas of the entire Southeast Asia and take over the spice monopoly... But, isn't this a free ride for the British?

Finally, the deputy commander of the fleet kindly reminded Liu Yu.

"My Lord Marquis, please be careful of the British."

Since Liu Yu didn't want to talk about the truth, the Dutch also felt that the truth was not important. Dashun went to Southeast Asia, to a certain extent, it was a loser, and fattened at least two winners.

Dashun got the production area of ​​​​spices.

Dashun itself has export channels, and the export of silk, tea, porcelain and other things has lasted for too long, and there are stable channels.

In the eyes of the Dutch, Dashun controlled the spices and did not worry about selling them.

At least, at this time, the Dutch had not thought that Liu Yu's ambition would be so huge, not only to make hard-earned money, but also to make money from the final sales end.

Whether the rebel army in Batavia was supported by the British or not is the truth, and it doesn’t matter now.

The important thing is that, in the eyes of the Dutch, the British achieved their goal. Regardless of whether the British supported it or not.

The reason why the British may support the Chinese uprising in Batavia is to break the Dutch monopoly on spices and break the Dutch's stable position in Southeast Asia.

If these Chinese rebels succeed, the British can use various means to get the spices that they have never been able to get.

Once there is a gap in the Dutch ruling system in Southeast Asia, the British smugglers will surround them like sharks seeing blood.

Now that Dashun has taken over Southeast Asia, the British can get the goods regardless of whether the Chinese rebels are supported by the British behind the scenes.

In other words, the Dutch monopoly on the spice trade for 120 years has been broken.

The British goal has been achieved.

Then the process and the truth are really unimportant.

Unless Dashun does not sell spices after taking over Nanyang, but destroys all the plantations and grows rice...

As long as Dashun is not stupid enough to flatten all the plantations to grow rice and cassava; as long as Dashun sells spices, the British will be the ones who benefit the most among all European countries.

The deputy commander of the Dutch fleet could still think clearly about this.

Sweden and Denmark do not have very good sales channels; the French trade policy is extremely weird, and they are fighting tariff wars with various countries, and the level of smuggling is also very poor; the Portuguese are far from what they used to be, and the trade treaty between Britain and Portugal has completely abolished Portugal's business; the Spanish should first prove that they can catch the British smugglers who are running around before talking about trade.

After all, if Dashun only sells spices in the end, won't it let Britain get a big bargain?

The Dutch, especially the Dutch of the East India Company, are unwilling to let the British get a bargain.

The Orange family was once the king of Britain, and used the money of the Netherlands to fatten Britain. Merchants are dissatisfied with the Orange family.

Different from the perspective of the Dutch aristocratic elite, the Dutch aristocratic elite are worried about France because France has too great a cultural advantage. If France occupies the Austrian Netherlands, the Netherlands is likely to be fully Frenchified, and it is very likely to become a vassal of France.

The opposition of the elite class of merchants to France has nothing to do with this. It is mainly due to France's national industrialism and super mercantilism policies. Merchants cannot sell goods to France to make money.

But opposing France does not mean that they support Britain.

Bankers and financial capitals don't care about Britain and France. As long as they pay interest, it doesn't matter who they lend to. If Britain is strong and can pay the interest, it will certainly be willing to lend to the British.

But the sea merchants are different.

Sea merchants are very opposed to Britain's "Navigation Act", and there is a very fierce competition between the East India Company.

Almost subconsciously, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet thought that the British had picked up a big bargain for nothing this time, and felt as disgusted as eating a fly.

Moreover, Britain can support rebels against the Netherlands, but will not support rebels against Dashun.

Especially when it is still uncertain who will be the second-hand dealer of the spice trade on the Dashun side.

I'm afraid that the British will sell out the rebels and use this to show goodwill to Dashun in order to get the exclusive franchise of spices in Europe.

The British can definitely do this.

Of course, it's mainly because Dashun has at least eight battleships. It's unrealistic to want to dig into Dashun's corners in Southeast Asia.

In North America, the British dig into the French and go to the Indian tribes controlled by France to buy furs and so on. That's because Britain has absolute control of the sea in North America.

There is no control of the sea in Southeast Asia, and Dashun has a monopoly on the supply. There are several companies that can sell goods. Britain will never dare to copy what it did in North America.

The Dutch fleet deputy commander thought more and more disgusted. The British did nothing, but became one of the two biggest beneficiaries. Where can they go to reason?

Dashun is fine, but it sent troops and fought. How disgusting is it that the British took advantage of the sales end?

Liu Yu's answer was ambiguous, which made the Dutch fleet deputy commander more suspicious that the dealer Dashun was looking for might be the British.

Perhaps some kind of agreement should be reached with the British?

For example, let the British give up Bengkulu, the only remaining British colony in Southeast Asia, and hand over the Philippines occupied by the British to Dashun in exchange for the exclusive right to operate spices?

Will the British change?

After thinking about it, the British should change.

In recent years, the Netherlands has basically squeezed out the power of the Spanish and Portuguese in Southeast Asia.

The British occupied Bengkulu, but they just came to disgust the Dutch, and the effect was not very good. At most, they just secretly engaged in some smuggling, and the scale was not very large.

Now it seems that the Dashun Empire on the other side seems to hate these European countries very much, and it is very likely that they also hope that the British will completely withdraw from Southeast Asia.

As for the Philippines, the British have just occupied Manila and are still at war with Spain. The British may return the Philippines to the Spaniards in exchange for other interests.

On the one hand, it could create conflicts between Dashun and Spain: Dashun wanted the entire Southeast Asia, and Dashun also banned Catholicism, so it certainly had no good feelings towards the fanatical Spaniards.

Secondly, if the right to resell spices can be obtained, the value of the Philippines is not great. The Philippines does not produce gold and silver, and the Spanish have been operating for many years, so it would be troublesome to get it.

The more he thought about it, the more he felt that this was possible. After the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet reminded him, he wanted to see what Liu Yu’s attitude towards the British was.

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