Subverted This is the Emperor Chat Group

If you say that Yuan Chonghuan's influence can be counted on Chongzhen's head, do I still need to argue with you?

We are in one group!

Li Zicheng rolled up his sleeves and definitely sprayed this pair of monarchs and ministers, they are not good things.

The people do not pay:

"It's so true!"

"Then we have to see how much Yuan Chonghuan hurt Daming?"

"We must give Yuan Chonghuan a personality."

"Then calculate how much responsibility Chongzhen should bear."

"I think it's not an exaggeration for Yuan Chonghuan to be called the number one treacherous minister of the Ming Dynasty."

"And the Chongzhen who reused Yuan Chonghuan is definitely the number one foolish emperor of Ming Dynasty."

"The ruler is oblivious and the minister is traitorous, this is really devoid of conscience!"

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Chongzhen was still high-spirited, and felt that Yuan Chonghuan's hypocritical mask had been torn off.

But when he heard Chen Tong and Li Zicheng's words, he froze.

He scratched his head in frustration, eyes full of shame, waiting for the judgment of fate.

957 Unification cannot be completed without Yuan Chonghuan (4300 words for subscription)

In the chat group, the emperors were all estimating the harm Yuan Chonghuan had brought to the Ming Dynasty, so as to determine which level of traitor Yuan Chonghuan should belong to.

Zhu Di was extremely nervous at the moment, could there be someone worse than Qin Hui in his Ming Dynasty?

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Is Chong Huan really the number one treacherous official in the Ming Dynasty?"

"Is this second Qin Hui worthy of the name?"

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Li Zicheng, Chongzhen and others all clenched their fists, waiting for Chen Tong's answer.

What Chen Tong said before was the Ming Dynasty people's views on Yuan Chonghuan.

And at this moment, he was about to make a characterization of Yuan Chonghuan.

Chen Tong:

"Why did the people of the Qing Dynasty wash Yuan Chonghuan so much?

Why did Qianlong and other emperors value Yuan Chonghuan so much?

Even because of Yuan Chonghuan's indelible contributions to the establishment of the Qing Dynasty,

It can be said responsibly that without Yuan Chonghuan, there would be no dominance of the Qing Dynasty.

Is this a big contribution? "

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I rely on!

When Zhu Di heard this, his heart stopped beating for a while.

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Isn't this even more terrifying?"

"To say that Yuan Chonghuan is the second Qin Hui is to underestimate Yuan Chonghuan!"

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Li Zicheng laughed out loud, now he thinks Chen Tong is much cuter, he is totally different from the way he was beating himself just now.

The people do not pay:

"I just said that Yuan Chonghuan was the most treacherous official in the Ming Dynasty."

"Look, this is the minister whom Chongzhen placed high hopes on."

"If the Ming Dynasty does not perish, it will be unreasonable!"

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Chongzhen's head almost fell to the ground, and he slapped himself hard again.

Self-hanging southeast branch:

"Does Yuan Chonghuan really have such great power?"

"I'm not doubting Chen Tong, and I'm not blaming Chongzhen. Whatever evil Chongzhen has done, he must bear it himself."

"I just don't understand at all, can Yuan Chonghuan really help the Jin people so much?"

"Didn't everyone say that the golden man can rule the world because of Wu Sangui?"

At this moment, Chongzhen still holds the attitude of studying.

Because he really couldn't understand, why did the people of the Qing Dynasty attach so much importance to Yuan Chonghuan?

And why did Chen Tong insist that without Yuan Chonghuan, there would be no unification of the Qing Dynasty?

Now is the first year of Chongzhen, and he still has a lot of time to change the historical trend of this time and space.

Even if Chongzhen died here, he didn't want the tragedy of history to repeat itself.

So this matter must be asked clearly.

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Chen Tong didn't keep it private at the moment, and some things had to be made clear.

Chen Tong:

"Since you asked, I will explain it to you.

Many people think that it was Wu Sangui who opened Shanhaiguan, which laid the foundation for the Jin people to rule the world.

In fact, this idea is wrong.

Because Wu Sangui is essentially unable to cause the Jinren's strength to advance by leaps and bounds.

Before the Yuan Chonghuan incident, no one in the civil and military circles of the Manchu Dynasty paid much attention to the Jinren.

None of them thought that the Jinren would unify the world in the future.

That's why these people dare to sell Liaodong with great fanfare in exchange for the benefits they want.

But it was Yuan Chonghuan who really broke this balance and made Jinren take off completely.

Because Yuan Chonghuan solved two major problems for the Jin people to rule the Central Plains and unify the world.

The first is Mao Wenlong's restraining effect on Jinren.

If Mao Wenlong existed, it would be impossible for the Jin people to take advantage of the nomadic cavalry.

Because they can't advance, attack, retreat, or defend, and go to long-distance raids to plunder the Central Plains.

Because they dare not go too far away from their lair, they are afraid that Mao Wenlong will take over his lair in a wave.

Second, that is the economic take-off of the Jinren, which is the first time to rob the Central Plains.

In the past, the Jin people simply did not have enough national strength to fight a war of annihilation with the Ming Dynasty.

In the previous wars, the Jin people gave all they had to fight a tug-of-war with the land of Liaodong in the Ming Dynasty.

But after this wave, the Jinren robbed all the rich people near the capital, and the economy took off qualitatively.

This is enough to fight a war of annihilation with the Ming Dynasty.

Therefore, the one who really helped the Jin people was Yuan Chonghuan.

It is precisely because Yuan Chonghuan solved these two problems for the Jin people that the Jin people can have the capital to compete in the world.

And Wu Sangui opened the Shanhaiguan Pass and let the Jin people in, which only accelerated the process of the Jin people's unification of the world. "

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At this moment, Li Shimin's eyes lit up. Although he didn't have much contact with the history of the last years of the Ming Dynasty, it didn't affect him to see the way.

Qiangu Li Er (the ruler of the Ming Dynasty and the sinner):

"A battle of national annihilation like this is fought over comprehensive national power."

"And Yuan Chonghuan helped the Jin people solve the situation of insufficient national power from the root."

"When Huang Taiji attacked the capital, the biggest gain was not that he stepped on the Central Plains, but that he robbed all the wealth around the capital here."

"This is the absolute basis for the Jin people to be able to rule the Central Plains."

"This analysis is simply too correct."

"Wu Sangui's decision to let the Jin people enter Shanhaiguan actually has little effect on the overall situation,"

"It's just slowing down the rhythm of Jinren's attack."

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Li Yuan was about to applaud his son at this moment, this is the way to look at the problem from the emperor's perspective.

Don't be obsessed with the minutiae, and don't be obsessed with what people say, you must look at the strength comparison between the Ming Dynasty and the Jinren from a macro perspective.

Chongzhen swallowed his saliva with difficulty, he never expected that Yuan Chonghuan would do so much harm to the Ming Dynasty!

But he still has many questions that he doesn't understand at the moment.

You have to ask clearly so that you can know what he should do next.

Self-hanging southeast branch:

"The Jinren have been smuggling with the Donglin Party for so many years?"