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But why don't you take a look at the reasons for the decline in combat effectiveness?

It was in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, and there was an extremely serious land annexation, and the land occupied by the army was annexed.

Then these soldiers who rely on the land, their military expenses, will they have to be swallowed by those civil servants?

They have no money and can't even support their own children, so there must be objections.

That's why they don't want to continue to serve as soldiers. When they have to serve as soldiers, they will be passive and sabotage.

but!

Still going back to the original question, Emperor Hongwu was the most ruthless anti-corruption emperor in the history of Yanhuang.

Why don't you implement Emperor Hongwu's system against corrupt officials?

You only need to see a corrupt official kill one, how dare they touch the soldiers' fields?

You always say that there is a problem with Emperor Hongwu's system, but you never thought about whether these emperors were implementing Hongwu Emperor's system when the problem went wrong?

The system is not implemented, just like you don't take the medicine prescribed by the doctor, you insist that the doctor can't see the disease.

I just want to say, this is to shame your ancestors!

These people who kept complaining about the problems with the military household system, and those who kept complaining that the military household system had reduced the fighting power of the Ming Dynasty.

Can't your brain turn around?

I didn't even figure out the cause and effect of the matter, so I just sprayed it there.

Whose problem do you think this is?

I think it's a lack of oxygen in your brain. "

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Chongzhen waved his fist fiercely, his eyes were full of gratitude, he wished he could jump up and cheer a few times.

Self-hanging southeast branch

"Chen Tong is right, the main reason for the fighting power of the Ming Dynasty army is the annexation of land by corrupt officials!

What does this have to do with the Hongwu Emperor system?

No matter how good the system is, it needs people to implement it.

These corrupt officials dared to touch the rations of the soldiers. Can this be blamed on Emperor Hongwu?

This is clearly the emperor at that time, who had no ability or ability to chop off the hands of those corrupt officials. "

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Cao Cao also extremely despises such idiots with questionable logic.

Friends of wives:

"Li Grassland, can you blame Emperor Hongwu for this?"

"This is equivalent to your wife not having a son, but you have to blame the old Wang next door for not working hard."

"If you have such an idea, come to me!"

"I'll help you out for free."

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Empress Lu, Liu Bang, Liu Xiu and others also looked contemptuous.

Liu Xiu really admired the skills of these black people, and even despised their logical thinking ability.

Magister

"It's just too obvious.

You have implemented all the systems of Emperor Hongwu, will such problems still arise?

You have killed most of the corrupt officials, and you have severely punished the law, who would dare to touch the army's field?

If the army's farms were not annexed by corrupt officials, then they have enough money to support their wives and children, how could their combat effectiveness decline?

Whose problem is this after all?

Is it a problem with the system, or is it the reason that the implementation system is not in place?

Any idiot should be able to tell the difference.

I'm afraid that someone will pretend to be stupid on purpose! "

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Zhu Di was completely relieved now, his father was absolutely fine, and his back became stiff again.

Definitely give Li Grassland a good spray.

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Li Grassland, have you been hated by your wife, and you will always blame others?

Have you ever thought about your own problems?

Maybe you are infertile.

People like you deserve to be dumped by your wife!

You still want to continue to slander Emperor Hongwu.

Come if you can!

I let Chen Tong spray you to death! "

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Li Zicheng's lungs were about to explode, this Zhu Di was simply too arrogant.

At this moment, he seemed to see the mocking eyes of other emperors, and he was also very upset now.

Chen Tong's era was an era of information explosion, couldn't such things be found out?

Why are some people still so anti-intelligent?

I've been fooled by you all!

In his heart, he sprayed all those who smeared Emperor Hongwu, and cursed these people secretly, you can't find a place to find black material.

What else can you do?

They are all keyboard warriors!

This kind of lie that can be broken at the first poke is actually regarded as the unbreakable truth, and you can only live on the Internet for the rest of your life.

In reality, you are a bunch of complete losers.

Li Zicheng complained secretly, and then slapped Chen Yuanyuan hard.

This woman is really nothing, I'm the emperor now, you're so fucking reluctant.

Who is this looking down on?

Wu Sangui can want you, but I can't?Lao Tzu is much stronger than Wu Sangui!

You can follow Wu Sangui, why can't you follow me?

Woman, hehe!

After Li Zicheng was betrayed by his wife, he hated women very much, thinking that women are easy-going, and they can climb dragons and phoenixes.

After smoking Chen Yuanyuan, Li Zicheng turned around and continued to compete with Chen Tong.

The people do not pay:

"I admit that the point of view I said before has not undergone in-depth investigation and thinking."

"In some respects, there are indeed some logical loopholes."

"However, one of the biggest drawbacks of the military household system is that it blocks the way for soldiers to ascend."

"Making these soldiers only become military members for generations will also seriously limit their enthusiasm."

"This time, you should be farting!"

"Don't you tell me that this is also because later generations have not implemented the policy in place?"

978.Isn’t Zhu Yuanzhang Giving Military Households Three Careful Passages Enough? (4300 words for subscription)

In the chat group, when the emperors heard Li Yuanyuan's words, their first reaction was to hit him with a big ear photon.

Especially Wu Zetian, seeing Li Yuanyuan even said that the military household system of Emperor Hongwu hindered the upward passage of these soldiers.

She felt that Li Prairie had a mental illness.

Heart of the Illusory Sea (Eternal Emperor, World Overlord):

"Being able to say that the military household system hinders the upward path can only show one thing, you are seriously ill!"

"Your eyes are blind to a jaw-dropping degree."

"How can the military household system hinder the upward passage of soldiers?"

"Can't the children of these soldiers be promoted?"

"Didn't they get promoted in the military?"

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Cao Cao, Liu Bang, Han Wudi and others were also speechless for a while.

Friends of wives:

"Emotions are in your eyes. Only when you are a civil servant can you say that you have a rising channel!"

"You mean, if you become a general, even if you can be the general marshal of the whole country, it's still called inferior?"

"Your three views are all shattered!"

"Even in the Song Dynasty, when the bones were so soft, the status of generals could not have been so low."