Subverted This is the Emperor Chat Group

"This is the Confucian Lean Learning."

"Zhu Di is so kind, I'm almost moved to tears."

"You should put Zhu Di on the Confucian Temple, Zhu Di is more saintly than Confucius!"

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The corners of Li Zicheng's mouth twitched wildly. At this moment, he was disgusted by what he said.

Now he really wants to scold the black fans of the Ming Dynasty in Chen Tong's era. These people have no brains at all.

You actually think that Zhu Yuanzhang will be a kind person?

Who has Zhu Yuanzhang been polite to?

Who did Zhu Yuanzhang talk about Confucian etiquette?

The people do not pay:

"Even if Zhu Yuanzhang doesn't carry out small exchanges, you can't prove that Zhu Yuanzhang just wants to increase fiscal revenue by monopolizing maritime trade!"

"This is just your own speculation."

"How can you prove it?"

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Zhu Di didn't need Chen Tong to answer at all at the moment, he was going to slap Li Zicheng immediately.

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Then think about it, how did the prosperous age of Yongle come about?"

"During Zhu Di's time, there were crazy wars, and the "Yongle Dadian" was compiled, and the capital was moved to Beiping."

"Do you think it's enough to rely on the farmers' taxes?"

"Even if it is enough, how can we create a prosperous age of eternal happiness?"

"Isn't Zhu Di relying on the huge profits from maritime trade?"

"How much did Zheng He earn for Zhu Di from his voyages to the West?"

"Do you dare to count?"

"You don't really think that Zheng He is traveling at public expense, do you?"

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Chongzhen clenched his fists fiercely, applauding his ancestors.

Self-hanging southeast branch:

"Li Yuanzhang, don't you question Zhu Yuanzhang's economic system?"

"Don't you think it is impossible for Zhu Yuanzhang to profit by monopolizing maritime trade?"

"Then you explain to us, why there is a prosperous age of Yongle?"

"How does Yongle Palace rely on to make money?"

"Is it by killing corrupt officials?"

"At that time, how much money could corrupt officials have?"

"That's not because of the huge profits from maritime trade. Those hundreds of merchant ships ship out porcelain, tea and silk."

"The ones brought back are all precious spices."

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Yang Guang pouted.

Infrastructure Maniac (Eternal Ruthless Lord):

"Li Grassland, explain yourself!"

"Don't pretend to be dumb, and don't try to get away with it."

"Your point of view does not explain a single event in history,"

"But Chen Tong's point of view can explain all of this."

"Isn't it obvious who is right and who is wrong?"

"Did the wealth in Zhu Di's time appear out of thin air?"

"Or is it that Zhu Di collected a large amount of business tax?"

"Through Zhu Di's Yongle Shengshi, it can be directly seen how profitable the sea ban system is."

"Since ancient times, monopoly has been the most profitable business model, there is no one!"

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The emperors nodded one after another. Only then did they understand the economy of Zhu Yuanzhang's era.

They didn't go for petty profits at all, but to monopolize maritime trade.

Li Zicheng was sweating profusely in anxiety, but his IQ couldn't explain all of this at all.

Even he himself thought that Chen Tong might be right.

Because wealth cannot appear out of thin air.

Why is Zhu Di so rich?

Many people have already speculated that Zhu Di was conducting smuggling activities in maritime trade.

Therefore, in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, the civil official group strictly guarded against the emperor's smuggling.

No one wants an emperor like Emperor Hongwu and Zhu Di to appear in the Ming Dynasty,

Not only is he powerful and unparalleled in prestige, but he also controls absolute wealth in his hands. This is simply a civil servant's nightmare.

But he absolutely cannot admit all this at this moment.

He rolled his eyes and remembered it.

The people do not pay:

"The wealth during Zhu Di's time may have been obtained through maritime trade,"

"But maybe it was invented by Zhu Di himself."

"What does it have to do with Zhu Yuanzhang's maritime ban system?"

"Zhu Yuanzhang didn't make money from this."

"What do you mean it's useful?"

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983.Where did the huge financial support money in Zhu Yuanzhang’s period come from? (4400 words for subscription)

In the chat group, the faces of the emperors all darkened.

This guy Li Zicheng has already started to argue.

Cao Cao couldn't bear it any longer. If he didn't complain about this guy, he would be really sorry for himself.

Friends of wives:

"Isn't Zhu Di's system inherited from Zhu Yuanzhang?

Isn't the sea ban system set up by Zhu Yuanzhang?

You are such a preposterous one!

You must know that the system has a delay, and its effect can only be seen after fermentation.

The prosperous age of Yongle was formed during Zhu Di's period, which has proved that Zhu Yuanzhang's system is economically sound.

It can form a perfect logical closed loop, allowing the Ming Dynasty to truly realize the prosperity of the country and the strength of the people.

As for whether it was realized in the period of Zhu Yuanzhang or in the period of Zhu Di, what is the difference?

What we are discussing now is whether the system is wrong. "

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At this moment, even Li Shimin doesn't want to continue this topic, which now only proves that Zhu Yuanzhang is very powerful.

But Li Caoyuan didn't think so. He knew that if Zhu Yuanzhang didn't pour some dirty water on him now, then Zhu Yuanzhang would really become an emperor through the ages.

If even the maritime embargo system cannot restrict Zhu Yuanzhang, then Zhu Yuanzhang will really take off.

So at this moment, even if he is shameless, he will go to black Zhu Yuanzhang.

The people do not pay:

"Don't talk so much about me, hit me in the face with facts if you have the ability!"

"If you can prove that Zhu Yuanzhang made money from this, then you can say that this system is fine."

"Otherwise, I only admit that Zhu Di improved the system, not that the system established by Zhu Yuanzhang was perfect."

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What the hell!

At this moment, Zhu Di really hated himself for passing out, otherwise he would directly open a space battlefield and kill Li Zicheng on the spot.

This guy is just plain annoying.

Does Zhu Di really have the ability to improve the system?

Absolutely not!

If Zhu Di himself can improve the system, it is impossible for him to smuggle on a large scale. He just has no choice but to be punished by these civil servants.

If he had the prestige and courage of his father, why would he bother with Wen Cheng?

Is it necessary for Zheng He to use the lame excuse of looking for Zhu Yunwen to directly carry out overseas trade with great fanfare?