Before leaving, he still did not forget to say a compliment with a smile on his face: "You are welcome to visit France often, dear Miss Elizabeth."

Although one is a peasant girl in Lorraine and the other is a fish seller in London.One is honest and straightforward, and the other is naive and shy.One is good at boosting morale and charging into battle, and the other is good at healing and soothing people.

But Lahair knew that this Elizabeth was actually the same kind of person as Joan of Arc.They are all saintesses who have been recognized by the Seven Saints, inherited the power of the gods, and shouldered the mission of saving the world.

"I don't know where the English found such a treasure... Her existence can greatly boost the morale of the British army and make our battle more difficult." Santleyer said.

A hale and hearty old man sitting next to them also intervened in the conversation between the two of them: "Boosting the morale of the British army is a trivial matter. The real big problem is that if the status of Elizabeth's sainthood is recognized by us - no official recognition is required, only It requires the acquiescence of the soldiers, and it is not difficult to do this by virtue of the affinity of the other party. Then, since the siege of Orléans in 1429, the firm belief established by the French people-in this cruel and long war, seven Saint is on the side of France and will be seriously shaken."

Because Joan of Arc appeared in France, it proved that the Seven Saints were on the side of France.

If England also produces a genuine saint, does it prove that the Seven Saints are also on England's side?

This will greatly weaken the psychological advantage of the French army in the face of the British army, and will also greatly reduce the justice of France's war against Britain.At the three-level meeting, it was also difficult for Charles VII to use the righteousness of the seven saints to suppress people, so that disloyal priests, rebellious nobles, and cunning citizens willingly paid for the war.

And the halo of the saint on Joan's body will also be disenchanted to a certain extent, and even the Marquis of Lamanche's control over the army will also decline.

He is a Serisian, a so-called "Seven Saints" who has only been converted for more than a year. It is not because of the firm support of Joan of Arc that he can win the loyalty of many French generals.

Back then, the Duke of Gloucester and the Earl of Hogil pushed Elizabeth out to create England's own saint, just to be able to slightly counter the influence of Joan of Arc.

They probably didn't expect that this London fish seller is really talented, and she has gained a lot of popularity in a short period of time, and has even been regarded by the French army as an enemy who can threaten Joan's status.

The old man who spoke was Marshal Busac, Jean de Brosse.

With his qualifications, even Rachel has to be courteous.Although the other party's analysis was very unfavorable to Joan of Arc, he had to admit that it was indeed very reasonable.

Thinking of Elizabeth's threat to Joan's status as a saint, Lahair said in a low voice: "Since this little girl is so difficult to deal with, we can no longer be confused by her innocent and pure face. We must fight back! Buy bards and spread the word." What about her rumors? Just say that she is a witch, and those elixirs that cure diseases are actually potions that can devour souls..."

Santleyer shook his head with a wry smile.Although his friend was brave in battle, he was still too naive to play tricks.

"The British have also used various methods to slander Jeanne. Have they succeeded? Even if the nobles in London have a 'French Witch', but on the battlefield, the English soldiers saw Jeanne's battle flag, but they still have no fighting spirit. How can the spokesman of the Seven Sages be smeared by lies?"

"Indeed, conspiracies are not my forte..." Lahaier's eyes showed a fierce look, "Then why not take advantage of that little London girl tonight..."

He did have kindness towards Elizabeth who healed her old wounds.But how could the iron will forged by years of fighting and bloody battles be shaken by such a small favor?

"No!" The prudent Marshal Busak immediately stopped him, "Murder a saint, do you want to go to hell?"

"Then what should we do?"

"We don't need to do anything." Santleyer turned his attention to the host of the banquet, "I believe that the Marquis of Lamanche, who once persuaded the Burgundians to defect by himself, has a way to deal with this situation .Compared to Jeanne who has gone through the test of life and death, that little English girl is still too immature. You have to have confidence in our saint."

But here comes the problem.

Where was Joan at this crucial moment tonight?

Chapter 230 Acceptable Collateral Damage

At this time, at the banquet chair, Archbishop Beaufort also asked many questions in the hearts of the guests attending the banquet.

"My lord, the Marquis of Lamanche, at such a grand and luxurious banquet tonight, why didn't you see Countess Doris?"

While putting the stewed beef into his mouth, Ma Youfu said casually, "You mean Jeanne? She has something to do tonight, so I can only miss this banquet."

"Being able to make Countess Duris absent from the banquet must be very important to your army."

"It is not important to the French army, but it is very important to the French people."

Archbishop Beaufort was not sure what Mayouf meant, so he changed the subject: "Master Marquis, last time in Ghent, this time on the beautiful Seine River, we have reached an agreement to benefit our respective countries. I know, are you A sane man. So, I hope you can take one more suggestion that will benefit both of you."

Ma Youfu's heart is like a mirror, knowing that the other party is about to reveal his true intentions.

"I'm all ears." He made a "please" gesture.

Archbishop Beaufort cleared his throat and said, "My lord, I hope you will stop the shelling of Notre Dame."

His voice was not loud, but it happened to be able to spread throughout the banquet hall.When they heard the two talking about the most sensitive topic in the current war between the two sides, almost everyone quickly shut down.

The noise of laughter and drinking stopped abruptly.The band stopped playing, and the bard who was performing also quietly stepped aside.

"Archbishop Beaufort, the nobles of the two countries enjoyed the banquet tonight, which may have given you an illusion. But don't forget, we are still at war. As an enemy, you have no right to dictate the legitimate military actions of our army."

Ma Youfu's tone was gentle and steady, but the attitude revealed in it was very tough.

Fortunately, Archbishop Beaufort was prepared and continued: "My lord, your bombardment of Notre Dame is not a 'legitimate' military action after all. Notre Dame is one of the most famous churches in France. Talking about its glorious history that Pope Alexander III personally presided over the groundbreaking ceremony, just talking about the artistic value of this building is enough to be regarded as a treasure by everyone.

The famous philosopher, theologian, and writer, Mr. Jean de Janton once described Notre-Dame in this way: the most glorious church of the Virgin Mary, which should shine like the sun in the sky.I asked, where else in the world can we find two such perfect and magnificent towers?

Countless believers who have finished their pilgrimage in Saint-Denis will stop by the Notre-Dame Cathedral to offer their most devout prayers to the Seven Saints under the magnificent and magnificent building.

Here, I sincerely ask you not to let the flames of war destroy this great building and the most sacred altar in the hearts of the Seven Saints. "

Ma Youfu clapped his hands a few times, and said appreciatively: "It's a wonderful speech, and I, a Sirisian, have a deeper understanding of the greatness of Notre Dame."

He looked around and found that everyone at the banquet, regardless of nationality, was all focused on himself.

Needless to say, those English nobles.The two sides were already enemies, and the bombardment of Notre Dame made the nobles, most of whom lived near the Isle of Cité, restless day and night.Coupled with this impact, the coronation of Henry VI had to be postponed.

Counting new and old grudges together, it is difficult for many people to maintain their decency on the surface. Their eyes on Ma Youfu are like sharp knives.

As for the nobles in France, many people also have doubts in their eyes.They looked at Mayoufu, looking for a reasonable explanation.

Paris is the capital of the kingdom, and Notre Dame is the landmark building of the city. If it is really destroyed, it will affect the morale of the army and the people.

After all, they are the kings who regained their homeland, not the invaders who can pat their butts and leave after wreaking havoc.

Even if Paris is successfully recovered, if you can only stand under the ruins of Notre Dame to celebrate the victory, it will leave a huge flaw in this battle.

Under the watchful eyes of everyone, Ma Youfu stood up and said word by word: "First of all, Archbishop Beaufort, I need to make a very serious correction. The target of the bombardment I ordered is the military installations on Citi Island—including guarding both sides of the Exchange Bridge Fortress, and various nearby military warehouses. I have never set Notre Dame as the target of bombardment. If you Englishmen continue to ignore the facts and try to mislead public opinion with lies, then I am afraid that even the most basic diplomatic etiquette will be lost between us. It can't be maintained."

Seeing that his little tricks were punctured, the people of Siris seemed to be really angry, Archbishop Beaufort could only bow slightly: "It's all a misunderstanding...a misunderstanding...Since your goal is not to destroy Notre Dame, can you stop it?" What about the bombardment? As far as I know, your artillery unit has already wasted a lot of gunpowder and shells on the Isle of Cité, but the results obtained are very small. Moreover, the castle on the Isle of Cité is too close to Notre-Dame, so it is inevitable accidental injury."

"That's not necessarily true. As far as I know, our army's shelling has destroyed a large number of warehouses and caused considerable difficulties for the British army's logistics." Ma Youfu said solemnly.

His real purpose is only known to a very few people, so most of the French generals believed this statement.

"As for accidental injury..." Ma Youfu spread his hands, "Please remember, Archbishop Beaufort. This is war, and this is the most violent way for human beings to resolve disputes. A little collateral damage caused by shelling is completely acceptable. Even if the Holy Mother The church was really damaged by bombardment. After this war is over, I can donate three times the compensation to the Diocese of Paris to repair this church. I believe that no one here will doubt my financial resources."

Although Ma Youfu's attitude of "you can do whatever you want with money" annoyed Archbishop Beaufort, he had to admit that his words were very convincing.

At least, the generals of the French army have been persuaded by Ma Youfu, and many people have expressed their support for him.

At this moment, a female voice like a silver bell intervened in the conversation between Archbishop Beaufort and Ma Youfu.

"Lord Marquis of Lamanche, do you really think that the incidental damage caused by the shelling is completely acceptable?" Elizabeth stood up, walked up to Mayouf, and saluted.

Her pronunciation is still very jerky, obviously just learning French.

But that clumsy effort to speak French did not draw ridicule.The guests all looked at the little girl with kind and tolerant eyes, wanting to hear what she had to say.

"You noble lords only focus on the Notre Dame, but you have neglected that your shelling has taken more than fifty lives. The damaged buildings can be repaired, but the lives of people who died under the shelling cannot be restored. Redeem."

Chapter 230 The so-called trolley problem

"Young lady, I know that you are pure in heart and full of kindness to everyone in this world. But unfortunately, not everyone can share the pain of everyone like you. For the French army, Paris It is the enemy city. We will have no sympathy for the suffering of the enemy, the death of the enemy."

Ma Youfu's seemingly ruthless words made the French nobles applaud and applaud, especially La Haile, who applauded the loudest.

Although Paris is the capital of France and has a special status, everyone from Charles VII to the Toulon militia has no good impression of this city.

It was the Parisians who had defected to the Burgundians.It was the Parisians who later set off a riot and drove Charles VII away.After the Siege of Orleans, it was the first to carry out organized rumors and slanders, denouncing Joan of Arc as a heretic, a witch, and still a Parisian.

The generals of the Jeanne d'Arc faction headed by La Haile, what they want to do the most after they capture Paris, is probably to rush to the University District and hang those so-called scholars who deceive the public one by one.

Of course, with Ma Youfu and Joan of Arc around, the French army’s military discipline is not bad. It can be regarded as a mighty and civilized teacher in the Middle Ages, and it will not really do bad things like looting and massacring cities.

But he will never feel self-blame and moral shackles because of the collateral losses caused by the war.That is not kindness, but pedantry, ignorance.

"However, Lord Marquis..." Looking at Ma Youfu's expressionless face, Elizabeth continued, "There are not only English troops who are against you on Citi Island, but also innocent civilians. Some of them are servants of Notre Dame, some Some of them work in the hospital and take care of the sick. They have never been an enemy of your mighty army. They just want to live in humility and peace..."

The little girl's voice is like a cuckoo crying blood, very contagious.In addition, she has an affinity that emanates from the inside out—this is probably a special talent endowed by the Seven Saints. Even knowing that the views of this English saint are very naive, and she is still in a hostile position, there is still something wrong with her. The young French nobleman was moved by her words.

"Young lady. In addition to the common people living in Paris, how many people in France are eager to live in humility and peace? For these people, I must win this battle."

"But, Lord Marquis, don't the people of Paris belong to France? They also speak French, and the blood of the Gaul ancestors flows in their language. Could it be that for the peace and tranquility of most French people, they can sacrifice a small part without hesitation? The lives of the people of Paris? God loves the world, and believers live forever. We are all children of the Creator, and there should be no difference between closeness and closeness.”

Ma Youfu laughed.

Isn't what the little girl asked herself the most classic ethical experiment in later generations-the trolley problem?

In order to save five people on the track, should the lever be pulled so that the trolley crashes into a person on the other track?

In order to end the war as soon as possible and bring peace to France, should we attack Paris mercilessly and by all means, even causing civilian casualties?

Ma Youfu knows that the fundamental point of this seemingly dilemma is not about choice.Because in the view of the presenter of this problem, no matter how one chooses, there is no complete morality.This is a mockery of utilitarianism and a critique of the view that "decisions that conform to the interests of the majority are the most moral decisions."

The crux of the trolley problem is responsibility.

No matter how you choose, innocent people will die because of your choice.In the trolley problem, many ordinary people do not want to bear the life and death of innocent people on their own, so they choose to turn around and leave, ignoring the tram that brings death.

Is Ma Youfu willing to take responsibility?

The answer is yes.

After he came to this world, he experienced the cruelty of war, witnessed the horror of chaos, and saw the people struggling in suffering.

His mind is strong enough.

Even if after the war he was regarded by the Parisians as an executioner, a lunatic who bombarded Notre-Dame, so what?

"Miss Elizabeth, I am the commander of this French army, and I am responsible for these [-] soldiers. I am also the Marquis of La Manche, and I am responsible for the king who granted me the title. I am also Jeanne's friend. She ended the war and was responsible for the great ideal of winning peace for the French people. But I am only a mortal, and I cannot love everyone in this world. That is the responsibility of the creator, Oretto."

Ma Youfu has the characteristics of a "junior negotiator". Even if he is not as good as Elizabeth's talent for controlling people's hearts, his language is still naturally persuasive.

Not to mention, what he said touched the hearts of many French people, and they all nodded in agreement.

Even some English nobles secretly recognized it.

After all, although Elizabeth's rhetoric stands on the moral high ground and is most in line with the teachings of the Seven Saints, it is not very down-to-earth, and it is difficult for utilitarian nobles to resonate.

But the little girl did not give up.

"Lord Marquis, you despise yourself too much. I have learned about your past deeds. I believe that a wise man who is willing to rescue many refugees and share the method of eliminating the plague to the church for free must have a warm heart like gold. You are different, and all European nobles are different."

Looking into his eyes with the girl Shui Yingying for a moment, Ma Youfu asked with great interest, "What's the difference?"

"Those nobles throughout the ages, ranging from a knight with only one manor to a monarch who rules a kingdom, they have only one attitude towards the subjects under their rule, that is 'owning'. The more subjects they have, the more satisfied they are. But The joys, sorrows, sorrows and joys of the subjects under the rule are not worthy of the rulers' concern. Only when their tyranny affects the right to "own" will they wake up and leave out a little compassion and kindness.

Therefore, King Edward III and his black prince will not hesitate to use riding to loot and kill French civilians.Because they hinder His Royal Highness, who is aloof, from 'possessing' more subjects.Therefore, His Royal Highness Henry V, who is praised by everyone, will ruthlessly execute the soldiers and civilians in the city after capturing Rouen and other cities.Because he knows that those who resist to the end will never be 'owned' by him... But Mr. Ma Youfu, I can feel that you are different.You don't think of real people in the same way as titles, land, wealth.In your mind, they don't just have the attributes of 'have' and 'don't have'.

That being the case, why are you so cruel and steel-hearted towards the people of Paris who are not 'owned' by France? "

Chapter 230 Where is Joan of Arc? (three more)

What Elizabeth said made Youfu Ma's lips parted slightly in surprise, and he took a deep breath, thinking about it for a long time, but he didn't know what to say.

If it was said that before, he still had some doubts, whether this saint, who was deliberately promoted by the English, was really the same as the outside, with a pure and compassionate heart.Is it true that she has a good character and is favored by the Seven Saints?

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