Rebirth of Military Workers
Chapter 1301
Chapter 1301
“I wonder what happened to your pilots?”
The embarrassed Xie Kai has nothing to say.
For Pugachev, this excellent pilot, Xie Kai still respects him very much.
If it weren’t for his accidental appearance, the Cobra maneuver would still be Pugachev’s first, and the Su-27’s first appearance at the Paris Air Show would still shock the world!
He appeared, and history changed.
Moreover, Xie Kai was extremely shameless to let the domestic team come up with the super-7A, which is insignificant and highly mobile, and other fighters with poor performance. They took away the honor that should belong to the Su-27 and moved the Soviet Cobra to maneuver. It has become a Chinese dragon rising up.
“Thank you for your regards, our hero Pugachev is out of danger. Those damn Western spies are too damned!” Mikhail said this with excitement on his face.
He deliberately aggravated the tone of the words poisoned by Western spies.
Tell the Chinese that there is no problem with the design of the Su-27 because it was caused by the poisoning of Western spies.
The Soviet Union and Western countries are fighting over this matter these days.
Mikhail was also very helpless. If it weren’t for the crash, Sukhoi would have been so passive, and it would be impossible to take the initiative to find a Chinese who had been rejected.
Whoever takes the initiative is not eligible to impose conditions.
In fact, it is not that Sukhoi rejected the Chinese procurement team, but the Military Industry Committee and the entire Soviet Union did not agree to provide Su-27 fighters to China. When the Chinese visited the MiG factory, Sukhoi took the initiative to contact the Chinese delegation. It.
Chervakov, the business manager of Sukhoi’s Department of External Public Relations, saw that the two of them had been talking nonsense and did not enter the subject, and couldn’t help but feel a little anxious.
Regardless of whether it is in compliance with the rules, he asked Xie Kai: “Thanks, I don’t know if you are still interested in purchasing Su-27?”
Just to sell Su-27 fighters to China?
Xie Kai’s eyes lit up, he guessed right, the Soviets were here to sell fighters.
Su-27, that must be obtained.
But there was a puzzled look on his face, looking at Chervakov, frowning and saying, “Comrade Chervakov, we are also a fighter research and development unit, not a fighter purchase unit. If you are willing to provide technology, we will cooperate. The possibility is still great.”
Sukhoi’s people are very upset about the shamelessness of the young Chinese.
Want technology?
There are no doors.
It’s not easy to be able to sell fighters, okay?
“It is undeniable that the performance of Super-7A is very good, especially the maneuverability demonstrated at the air show.” Chervakov did not deny the excellent performance of Super-7A. Turning the conversation, he said to Xie Kai: “Although the Super-7A has excellent air performance, in terms of combat radius, range and ammunition capacity, due to the defects of the RD-33 engine itself, it cannot be much stronger.”
“This is indeed a problem!” Xie Kai smiled and nodded.
The Soviets looked happy.
As long as the Chinese admit their technical shortcomings, it will be much easier to sell the Su-27.
But Xie Kai immediately asked them: “Even if the voyage is short, the combat radius is small, and the ammunition is insufficient, what about it? At least we can make it ourselves. Once the Air Force is out of stock, we can produce it at any time! You won’t get stuck!”
This is the point in the military industry.
Don’t be afraid that the technology is not as good as the others, so you have to make it yourself.
Like this time, if the Soviets did not provide engines, China’s Super-7A could not be produced.
The mainstream domestic fighters, whether it is the J-7 or the J-8II, are all turbojet engines that can be produced in China. This is the reason for this.
If the Super-7A is also equipped with the Air Force, the Air Force will not agree to such a plan.
Hearing what Xie Kai said, Sukhoi’s general manager and the business manager looked at each other and saw their helplessness.
Everyone knows that what this kid said is different from what he thought. The Su-27 fighter is so good that the Chinese Air Force absolutely needs it.
It is simply impossible for the Chinese Air Force to continue to equip a large number of Super-7A with a short combat radius and insufficient range.
According to the speculation of the technical team, Super-7A is not only a combat radius, a short range, and insufficient ammunition capacity. According to China’s technical situation, there are still many technical defects.
In the future, the development of the air force of major powers requires fighters with stronger comprehensive combat performance!
Xie Kai actually said no.(Read more @ wuxiax.com)
“Thank you, we sincerely hope to cooperate with you!” Chervakov said with some disappointment. “Since you think there is no possibility of cooperation, then we will leave.”
The Soviets have always been tough.
Even if they take the initiative to promote equipment and are at a disadvantage, they will not be weak in attitude.
In the past, China used various methods in order to find their fighters, and even specially found people with good drinking capacity to fight in the Soviet Union.
Now Xie Kai actually tells them that the Chinese Air Force does not need their Su-27!
Obviously, I want to sit on the ground and raise the price and put more conditions.
In this case, what’s the point of going on talking?
The two immediately turned to leave.
Xie Kai stopped them: “Two, wait a minute.”
The two who were about to leave stopped and looked at Xie Kai, “Didn’t you say that you don’t need it? Since there is no possibility of cooperation, what else are you talking about. Everyone’s time is precious, and there is no need to waste chatting.”
Chervakov was full of playfulness.
The intention is to tell Xie Kai that playing that set of negotiation methods is useless.
If Xie Kai can’t say something constructive, they will leave immediately.
“Two, help you persuade our air force to purchase the Su-27. The problem is not big. We can also give up obtaining the Su-27 manufacturing technology. The price and cooperation conditions are easy to negotiate. However, we have one condition. If you agree, Our cooperation will be no problem.”
“condition?”
When the Soviets heard Xie Kai say this, their faces suddenly became unsightly.
In the international advanced equipment trading market, only sellers in an active position have always offered additional conditions.
But now in the negotiation with the Chinese, the young man in front of him actually imposes additional conditions with a buyer in a disadvantaged position!
Spread out, this will become an international joke.
The entire Soviet military industry will be ridiculed by the international community.
Even if the work is completely shut down, it should not damage the national dignity of the Soviet Union in order to export fighters, which are advanced heavy fighters that China desperately needs.
“Two, it’s not really a difficult thing. We only hope that you can persuade the Soviet Union to agree to export RD-33 engines to us through your influence. This is a very cost-effective deal, and it is not an excessive condition.”
Xie Kai started planning this when Sukhoi’s people came.
This is also impossible.
Since the Soviet side has taken the initiative to send the Su-27 to the door, it is not excessive to require the Soviet side to approve the export of the RD-33 engine based on the cooperation with the Su-27.
Although this may affect the cooperation with the Soviet Union on the Su-27, the other party will definitely ask for a higher price.
The demand for RD-33 engines is too large, and there are no related engines in China, so people can only get more benefits.
Even if the Soviets did not agree to provide all the orders, that would not be a big problem.
It is entirely possible to produce fighter jets for export while using the profits gained from exports to invest in domestic engine projects.
Turbofan-6 has entered the most critical period so far, and it can be used when it is resolved.
Chervakov heard Xie Kai say that the export of the RD-33 engine is the basis, and he frowned, “Thank you, we are Sukhoi, not Mikoyan. And we are in a competitive relationship with Mikoyan.”
Sukhoi and Mikoyan have always been in a competitive relationship, and both parties have their own R&D systems and supporting factories.
The RD-33 engine proposed by Xie Kai belongs to the Mikoyan system, developed by the Klimov Design Bureau, and produced at the Chernyshev plant in Moscow, which is also called the “Red October” plant outside.
In the Sukhoi system, the engine used has always been the AL-31 engine developed by the Lulica “Saturn” scientific research and production consortium.
When the competition becomes fierce, neither will reach out into the other’s system, nor will they agree to reach out into their system.
Sukhoi’s fighters have never used Klimov’s engines, but the MiG-23 designed by Mikoyan has used the AL-21 series engines of the Lulica Saturn company.
This is the only time.
Although Xie Kai’s conditions were not excessive, it made Sukhoi’s people very embarrassed.
It can even be considered bad intentions.
“Perhaps, you can choose Saturn’s AL-31 engine?” Chervakov asked tentatively.
To export AL-31 engines to China, the Soviet high-level officials disagree, and even Sukhoi’s other high-level officials may not agree.
After exporting the engine, the Chinese will be faster in the research and development of new fighters, and Sukhoi may lose more orders by then.
Xie Kai is deliberately making things difficult for them.
“If we choose AL-31, our design needs a lot of modification…” Xie Kai was moved, but still shook his head and refused, “In addition, our country is engaged in the research and development of the same type of engine.”
It’s not that he doesn’t want to get the AL-31 engine, the J-10 uses this stuff.
But for now, the Soviet AL-31 engine must not be allowed to affect the domestic turbofan engine core machine for the national major research.
With the Soviet engine, the country’s major research is likely to die.
The Soviets’ contact with China did not make any substantial progress.
Xie Kai also told the Soviets about the core machine research in China. He did not have a purpose in this way.
It is impossible for the Soviets to be ignorant of the situation in China.
The meaning of Xie Kai is very obvious. You don’t need to export it. When we succeed, we don’t need one.
So the Soviets are gone.
The result is still unknown.
During the whole process, Bai Yanjun and Ge Minglang were involved. From beginning to end, the two did not say a word, leaving Xie Kai to talk to the Soviets.
In fact, the conversation was over from the beginning, and it was impossible to make progress.
No one would agree to Xie Kai’s request.
China needs the Su-27, but it puts additional conditions!
No one can accept such behavior.
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