Rebirth of Military Workers

Chapter 1409

“Chief, there is no guarantee that the Americans can agree. We can only contact and communicate first. If they agree, we will introduce American technology; if they don’t agree, we can’t do anything. We can’t do anything about how other leaders think about it. Anyway, let’s take it. Not much money…”

Xie Kai’s words indicate the 404 attitude.

Cooperation with the Soviet Union is inevitable, whether for technology or for future plans.

Originally, it should be the government or the military to cooperate with the United States, but the Americans deliberately asked for cooperation with 404…

Early the next morning, the Soviet Union sat with the 404 negotiating team.

The arrival of the American team puts a lot of pressure on the Ukrainian team and a lot of worries. They hope to reach a cooperation agreement as soon as possible.

The two sides did not embarrass each other too much on various conditions.

Especially for Ukraine, I wanted to cooperate with China from the beginning, and when I came up, I would directly talk about the An-22 technology transaction.

In terms of An-22 technical cooperation, both parties have already understood each other’s bottom line. As long as they don’t make other excessive requirements that will affect the cooperation, they can sign the contract directly.

“You want An-225?” Diminov was shocked at Xie Kai’s sudden request that they continue to build a second An-225.

There is only one aircraft such as the An-225 in the entire Soviet Union.

The production of the other one has not yet been completed because of that.

Xie Kai immediately nodded and said: “Yes, we need An-225. Don’t produce technology, just need an aircraft for the transportation of our large equipment… The one in your workshop produces half of the An-225, because the funding has stopped, production Come out, we spend money to buy…Of course, we can also produce another…”

Xie Kai is not at all polite to Ukrainians, and doesn’t make any twists and turns.

“We need that aircraft. Either we invest and continue to build it, or you use the cooperation funds to complete the production, and we purchase…”

“We need to go back to discuss and seek the government’s approval. It is not easy to sell the world’s largest aircraft.”

Vital couldn’t directly answer Xie Kai’s request.

China wants to purchase An-124, which is not a big problem for Ukraine.

The An-225 aircraft belonged to the Soviet government. It is difficult to say whether the Soviet government agrees to export.

Xie Kai looked at each other with a serious look, “Even if the Soviet government does not agree to export to us, I hope Antonov will continue to build. Maybe the government will agree to it in two years.”

The purpose of Xie Kai is to let the Ukrainians build the second An-225.

When the Soviet Union disintegrates, the Ukrainian government loses its financial support from the Soviet Union. With Ukraine’s economic strength, there is no way to feed the money-burning equipment.

There is no way to feed their huge domestic population!

Ukraine is not rich in resources, relying on the huge Soviet Union, has a huge industrial production capacity.

Without the Soviet Union, Ukraine would not be able to support the development of its huge domestic manufacturing system, with very few orders.

After the construction of the An-225 was completed, after the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the huge aircraft would not be of any use in Ukraine. Ukraine, which lacks money, even sells strategic missiles, let alone such aircraft.

Diminov didn’t know what Xie Kai’s idea was. “At the beginning, when he proposed to sell the An-22, he continued to build the An-225, make improvements to the An-225, and even develop a larger aircraft…”

They did not make an offer to China at this time.

The Soviet government does not approve exports, and no amount of quotations are worthwhile.

Xie Kai talked to the Ukrainians, and Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin were really confused.

They always thought that Xie Kai was joking when he came back with an An-225.

It now appears that Xie Kai has been planning to bring back this huge plane.

They have never seen how big the An-225 is. Bai Yanjun mentioned that Xie Kai wanted to build the world’s largest aircraft.

Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin always thought that Xie Kai wanted to engage in An-124, and even wanted to move the production line back.

The technical requirements of the An-124 production line are too high.

The introduction of a full set of technologies cannot be produced in a short time in China.(Read more @ wuxiax.com)

Even if they had ideas, the two often said it, but they were just thinking about it, and they didn’t really plan to introduce the full production technology of this large transport aircraft.

“The Sam-125, Sam-200 medium- and long-range air defense missile technology and the matching radar, there is no problem? Right?” Xie Kai asked the Ukrainian. “In the introduction process, we don’t want any restrictions. We need technology for launch vehicles, radar vehicles, and a full set of detection systems…”

This is also the core technology with the highest cost in this transaction between the two parties.

It is almost impossible to engage in the Sam-300 air defense missile system now.

The Hongqi-9 used for Sam-300 is worth hundreds of millions of dollars for a set of systems.

It is absolutely impossible for Ukrainians to provide the Chinese side, not to mention the complete set of Sam-300 technology, and the export of the entire set of equipment will not agree.

They agreed that China has no money to purchase either.

That thing is too expensive, whether it is the air force, the army, or the ground air defense unit, it can’t be equipped…

Vitor said directly: “There is no problem with technology exports, and the price will be higher.”

Xie Kai didn’t speak, waiting for him to make an offer.

“The complete set of technology is $4 billion.”

Vitor quoted the price, and Diminov added directly, “This technology must pay foreign exchange in full.”

Wang Guilin, Zheng Yucheng and others frowned.

“Gentlemen, a backward anti-aircraft missile, you are so big that you want such a high price, and you have to pay foreign exchange in full. Isn’t this embarrassing?” Xie Kai was very dissatisfied.

the price is too high.

“The proportion of foreign exchange payment has been discussed before, and it will be paid at 30% of the total amount. If the price is not negotiated, this technology can be deducted from the list.” Xie Kai is very serious.

The biggest role of Sam-3 and Sam-5 is to train technical personnel to familiarize them with the technology and to further develop a new generation of more powerful mid-range and long-range air defense missiles.

The Ukrainian lion opened his mouth, and the price of 4 billion U.S. dollars exceeded China’s expectations.

Xie Kai directly repaid a price of 1 billion U.S. dollars, and the Ukrainians almost vomited blood with anger.

The two sides launched fierce negotiations on the price, and in the end no one was willing to make too much concession.

Unlike other Soviet negotiations, Ukraine will not significantly lower its shelves, and the price will drop to 3.2 billion U.S. dollars without making any concessions.

The Chinese side even only added 1.4 billion US dollars and is unwilling to increase it.

Seeing that the talk cannot go on, Xie Kai said: “Gentlemen, stop this kind of debate that affects cooperation. It will only take time to drag it off, and it will not be good for any of us. Let’s talk about other things first…”

Regarding the engine proposed by Xie Kai before the negotiation, whether it is aero engines, tank engines, or even gas turbines for warships, the negotiations are relatively smooth. China can also obtain complete sets of equipment from the West. Ukraine does not have a big mouth.

Although the Ukrainian offer is too high, 404 is also acceptable.

Negotiations have progressed very quickly. The heart disease problem has always been serious in Chinese-made equipment, so the price has not been too low.

Negotiations in other areas are relatively easy.

For the entire contract, if the prices of Sam-3 and Sam-5 cannot reach that much, it will not be possible to raise 10 billion rubles.

Everything else is about the same, and the Ukrainians are ready to bring the topic back to the price negotiation of the Sam-3 and Sam-5 air defense missile systems.

Xie Kai directly changed the subject.

“Gentlemen, we need some basic technology. For example, high temperature powder metallurgy production process and production equipment, aviation aluminum, titanium alloy smelting technology and equipment, nickel-based superalloy material production formula… These, we need a full set of manufacturing technology. Such a Come, it will be able to meet the request of tens of billions of rubles…”

After Xie Kai said this, the Ukrainian directly refused.

“After the cooperation, we can supply you with all the raw materials you need. This is also the content of the cooperation… These are not high-tech, but require a lot of infrastructure investment, which will affect your progress…”

Vitor has an expression that I am considering for you.

Wang Guilin snorted coldly in his heart and reminded the other party, “Chairman, basic raw material technology should have been included in the entire range of technology…”

In the previous communication between the two parties, no one mentioned whether the basic raw material technology is included in the contract.

As usual, supporting technologies are not included in the main body’s cooperation.

Otherwise, just the full set of An-22 technology, including raw materials and other technologies, will not be able to win tens of billions of rubles.

The Ukrainian side obviously wants to take the opportunity to boost domestic production by providing basic raw materials to China.

Even if the two parties have differences in the process of cooperation, they can also use materials to limit China’s production capacity.

Unexpectedly, the Chinese first talked about other things about the same, and then put forward non-separate requirements for basic raw material technology.

Once the basic technology is mastered, the entire cooperation is just a one-shot sale.

It is not in the interests of the Soviet Union.

The Soviet government has also emphasized that technology can be provided to China, and the supporting basic core technology is not provided to China, but the Soviet Union supplies it to China.

“Aviation aluminum and other materials are commonly used internationally. Without basic technology, we can’t do many experiments. If you don’t agree, we can also import from the United States. Comrades, please don’t think that the U.S. delegation is only for tourism in China. You guys. I also know that many people in our country are more inclined to cooperate with the United States…”

Zheng Yucheng began to use the US delegation to put pressure on the Soviets.

The Ukrainians dragged at the airport, waiting to meet the Americans. The Americans saw their presence, and it happened to pull the Americans out at this time.

Vitor snorted coldly, “Since you are willing to cooperate with the Americans, just talk to them about introducing them. Our cooperation negotiations are over!”

After speaking, no matter what the 404 response is, stand up and go out.

The other Ukrainians also didn’t stay any longer, and got up and left with a decisive expression.

Seeing that the Ukrainians were so decisive, the Chinese were stunned…

Xie Kai quickly got up and stopped in front of Vitor.

“Chairman, we are not using Americans to put pressure on you. In order to raise this fund, we paid a very high price and handed over a lot of business to other units… Terminating the cooperation is not a good thing for both of us. In the end, It’s the Americans who get the cheapest…”

“You need technology to import from the United States, and the benefits will be even greater.” Diminov said to Xie Kai with a black face.

China actually used the US delegation to pressure, the Soviets were originally upset with the Americans.