Rebirth of Military Workers

Chapter 698

“8 million, 60 planes!” Muhanad gritted his teeth and reported a high price he thought was absolutely high.

The Chinese like to ask for prices.

Wasn’t it the same when the J-7 was introduced?

“Mr. Minister, if this is the case, it will be difficult for us to talk. Both of us have already surfaced our position and the bottom line. All along, in order to reach an agreement, we have continuously lowered our requirements and liberalized the export of some technologies. But you did not show much. Your sincerity…” Xie Jianguo looked at the Egyptians and really didn’t want to continue.

A plane with 8 million dollars also has great profits.

After the production line is provided, this profit will be compressed a lot.

For fighter jets produced in Egypt, China can get part of the technology royalties and profits from the production of key components, and overall profits are reduced by at least 40%. This is already very disturbing.

In order to get more funds, 404 released some technologies that are not advanced, especially the technology of some mechanical processing plants and metallurgical plants in the aviation manufacturing industry.

The Egyptians want more.

“The price is already very high. The same type of trainer aircraft in Europe, America and the Soviet Union has been proven in the market and has been successfully developed for many years. The price is about 10 million U.S. dollars…” Muhanad said, “Although it has some combat capabilities, it has The radius is too small and the ammunition is too small…”

This is the disadvantage of light fighters.

At present, few countries have studied light fighters.

During the Cold War for decades, the fighters of the two camps developed rapidly, especially after the second-generation fighters, the design of the fighters of the two camps of the West and the Soviet Union tended to be large-range, high-loaded, and multi-purpose. Some new models became An offensive fighter with deep strike capability.

Light fighters were gradually abandoned because of their poor combat capabilities.

Even if the price is low, not many countries are willing to equip it.

Especially those countries whose national defense implements strategic offensives.

“That’s true. Minister, this is just a light fighter. The biggest feature is not the combat capability, but the cost of training pilots. The light fighter is just a consumable for medium and heavy fighters with more powerful combat performance… even the MiG In this case, the market price of -29 is more than 20 million U.S. dollars, and the price of F-16 is higher…” Xie Kai said.

Egypt is now seeking to introduce F-16s.

Maybe it has already been introduced.

But the performance of the F-16 is advanced enough, but the price is not affordable by ordinary countries.

Not only the purchase price is high, but the maintenance cost is also unaffordable for ordinary countries.

“This fighter can be matched with the F-16 purchased by your country. Although the ammunition capacity is small, the purchase price of an F-16 can purchase at least three Super-7A, and the production line in your country will start production. The greater the output, the lower the cost will be…” Xie Kai talked about this from the perspective of an Egyptian.

How did the Egyptians not think about this problem?

“8.5 million dollars, 70 planes!” The Egyptians almost gritted their teeth and gave this condition.

“We can’t accept this price. Mr. Minister, from the design and development of a fighter aircraft to the finalization of supporting ammunition, the funds required are huge…” Zheng Yucheng shook his head.

Upon hearing this, Xiong Hongyuan and others of the 132 factory were indignant.

Simply shameless.

The people of 611 are even more contemptuous.

The test flight has not yet begun. Many of the technical data and designs of the Super-7A fighter are derived from the J-9. The funding that the 404 is investing in this project will never exceed 200 million yuan.

Even if the flight test is finalized and the cost of the J-9 is aside, plus the three project models of Super-7A, Super-7B, and No. 10 project to share various research and development costs, it will not cost 500 million.

With this order alone, all the research and development costs can be recovered, and there is even a balance.

Actually said shamelessly, how much R & D costs they invested!

Didn’t look, people are robbed?

But no one came out to find awkwardness at this time.

After talking about the National Day since September 10th, the two sides have not reached an agreement.

After understanding the project in detail, the Pakistanis returned to their country, ready to let the head of the domestic air force and other relevant personnel come to understand the situation, and then finalize the contract.

Even Ibrahim has already determined the itinerary and will lead a delegation to China to negotiate the procurement of anti-tank missiles and new tank armor-piercing shells after the 37th National Day of the founding of the People’s Republic of China on November 11th.

As a result, the Egyptians are still arguing with China.

Inside the school, Chen Mingshan’s anger had reached a level that could not be restrained.

But Xie Kai was helpless.

He asked Zheng Yucheng and the others to talk to the Egyptians and go back to school by themselves, but the Egyptians disagree.

I can only accept the dean’s scolding once every other way…

“10 million U.S. dollars, 80 planes.” After another round of suspension, the two sides exchanged friendships in private and talked about friendship. The negotiations were started again, and the Chinese side again made concessions. “40 of them were produced by China, and the remaining 40 were made by China. China provides parts and components, which are assembled on the production line in Egypt…”

This is the minimum condition that China can accept after discussing it.

It is also the bottom line established by Xie Kai from the beginning.

The Egyptians also know that this is almost China’s bottom line. There is no direct counter-offer, but other conditions are bound.

“We can persuade China to accept this price. However, we hope you can agree to one thing…” Muhanad said seriously.(Read more @ wuxiax.com)

While speaking, I have been observing the reaction of the Chinese personnel.

This requirement is actually a bit excessive.

Zheng Yucheng and the others were indeed angry, the Egyptians were too advanced.

Xie Kai held back his anger and looked at Muhanad, “Mr. Minister, what do you want?”

“359 tank production line!” The Egyptians are no longer implicit, “we need 359 tanks, and the cost cannot be too high…”

“Say it early!” Zheng Yucheng was immediately happy.

The Egyptians are giving money to 404. How can they be upset?

“But…” At the moment when he thought of his failure, Zheng Yucheng quickly restrained himself, “Your Excellency, exporting tanks, there is not a big problem, but the production line…”

“If you do not agree to sell the production line, we refuse to accept the agreed price for the introduction of Super-7A.” Aryaf’s attitude is very firm. “In terms of tanks, we purchase 300 for each one at a price of US$1.95 million! You provide a production line…”

“US$1.95 million? Sir, are you kidding me?” Xie Kai kept scolding Mubara in his heart.

It is definitely this grandson, otherwise the Egyptians would not give such an embarrassing price.

There is also a special production line for China to help build assembly plants and provide technical support.

“No, we are very clear about the price of 359 tanks exported from your country.” Aliaf said, “Such a price is already very reasonable…”

“No!” Xie Kai resolutely said no with Zheng Yucheng’s unrecovered expression.

If it’s just a purchase, this price is barely acceptable.

The output has gone up and the cost has been reduced.

The problem is that the other party asks China to help build a tank factory.

“Your Excellency, at this price, 300 vehicles and a production line are impossible. At the end of 1984, the Ministry of National Defense and War Products announced that it would invest 216 million US dollars to develop your country’s main battle tanks. In November of the same year, the United States Teledyne ·The General Products Division of Continental Motors received a contract from your country to transform the Soviet-made T-54 tanks for your country. The contract will be executed in the United States, right?”

Zheng Yucheng and others didn’t know what Xie Kai said.

The Egyptian was stunned.

Is there anyone in China paying attention to this?

“Just to transform thousands of T54 tanks in your country, there is a budget of 216 million US dollars in design costs.” Xie Kai continued.

Zheng Yucheng and others finally understood that the Egyptians came to buy the fighter plane production line, which was incidental.

It is their goal to get the transformation technology and production line of the 359 tank from China.

The 59 tank is an imitation of the Soviet T54A tank.

The 359 tank, in essence, is still an improved model of the 59 tank.

This type of tank is the most produced tank in the history of world tank development. According to incomplete statistics, the number of T5455 tanks produced in the world has reached 86,000 to 100,000.

This is a staggering data.

This is a truly successful tank of the century, there is no one.

It is also because of the existence of this kind of tank that the fight against Western countries in the Middle East directly prompted the birth of the Western M60 tank.

The 359 tank is almost the ultimate version of the 59 tank modification.

Xie Kai’s plan is also a combination of the many modifications of the 59 tanks that have been modified the most and have been in service for the longest time in China.

There are many such tanks in the Middle East.

With the transformation technology, this will allow all the tanks in the Middle East countries to increase the performance of several times without paying much money.

Egypt happens to have good relations with those countries in the Middle East that once purchased Soviet tanks.

After all this was figured out, the Egyptians also understood the purpose of obtaining the 359 tank production line.

How can Xie Kai tolerate that they only purchase 300 tanks and get the technology for less than 0 million?

“Do you know our plan?” Muhanad asked Xie Kai with a twitching corner of his mouth.

“Your plan, on the one hand, is to use American M60 tank components to transform T-54 tanks to enhance combat capability; on the other hand, it is to maximize the versatility of parts between the Egyptian Soviet T-54 tanks and the American M60 tanks. Right? In other words, your country’s plan is more appropriate to describe it as 59 Patton?” Xie Kai’s words were full of nasty fun.

This is the tank that he once played in a game called “World of Tanks”, 59 Patton.

That is, the combination of the Chinese 59 tank and the American Patton tank.

Muhanad looked at Xie Kai with a face full of disbelief.

This plan has been criticized by many people, and they are embarrassed to spread it all over the world.

How did the Chinese know?

“Mr. Minister, the Americans are just helping you to transform the T54 technology. You can equip the power system from Germany and the artillery from the United States, and you can get 150 million US dollars. For our 359 tanks, you only purchase 300, and the price is At only 1.95 million US dollars, I just want to get the technology. Is it appropriate? This is the most advanced tank in the world, although the tonnage cannot be compared with the American M60A3 and M1…” Xie Kai’s question made the Egyptians even more speechless. It can be said.

“Is this true?” Zheng Yucheng asked Xie Kai angrily.

Xie Kai didn’t speak, just stared at the Egyptian.

Muhanad had no idea that things surpassed their imagination, “Thanks, we don’t need too many tanks…”

“According to the purchase quantity of 300 vehicles, there is no problem. But other conditions need to be changed. The purchase price of 359 tanks must be 2.2 million US dollars per vehicle. In addition, 200 million US dollars of technology usage fees should be paid.” Xie Kai has been grinding for several days. The butcher knife was finally raised and fell down.

Whether to be slaughtered or not depends on what the Egyptians think.

Zheng Yucheng and others almost took a breath.

Xie Kai’s knife was cut too hard.

When Pakistan got the technology, it only paid US$50 million in technology usage fees.

To the Egyptians, it would cost 200 million?

The equipment related to the production line is not free, and all have to be purchased from China.

“Your condition is too unacceptable…” Aliaf said angrily.

200 million US dollars, buying a tank to improve the technology, it is really not worthwhile.

“There is no room for negotiation on this matter. If you want to bind the cooperation of the Super Seven Project to the 359 tank, then you must pay the corresponding cost. We will not harm our own interests for a certain project. Once you obtain the manufacture of the 359 tank Technology, in the Middle East alone, there are improvements to tens of thousands of T54 tanks. We are not fools about how much profit this business can bring…”

By now, the face is torn, there is no need to take care of face.

Xie Kai is not afraid that the Egyptians will disagree.

At present, the Egyptians have not purchased a large number of M60 Patton tanks from the United States. According to the cooperation between the later generations and the United States, especially in the United States, after the 59 Patton plan was developed, Egypt purchased 400 M60A1 and 1,300 M60A3 from the United States!

At present, I have only purchased 400 M60A1s at most. If the versatility of some parts of the T54 and M60 tanks cannot be completed, subsequent purchases will be difficult.

“Xie Kai, are these conditions too high? With the increase in production, the cost of our 359 tanks has dropped a lot.” Zheng Yucheng worried that the Egyptians were frightened by such conditions and finally cancelled the cooperation.

“Uncle Zheng, don’t worry. Their purpose is to improve the technology of the 359 tank.” Xie Kai explained.

“Why are you so sure?” Xie Jianguo really annoyed his son.

It seems that he alone knows about major events in the world.

No one knows what happened.

“Egypt and the United States are cooperating. In order to develop their own country’s main battle tanks, the Ministry of National Defense and War Products has indeed allocated more than 200 million dollars. The Americans took away 150 million U.S. dollars, in fact, to install the Pattons on the T54 tanks. The American M68 tank gun, the German 1200-horsepower engine, etc… just for this design, paid 150 million US dollars. The 359 tank has a caliber of 125 mm!”

When Xie Kai talked about this, he didn’t get angry.

When is China’s technology cheap?

“Xie Kai, have you ever thought about it. According to our conditions, the total transaction volume of the fighter production line plus the tank production line will exceed 1.6 billion US dollars.” Xie Jianguo reminded Xie Kai, “The Egyptian economy is not too strong. More, it may not be affordable.”