Great writers and philosophers

*Host: Koichi Sato, a famous literary critic

*Speaker: Shuhiko Nakamori, friend of Ryunosuke Akutagawa

*Conversation Topic: Polaris Beyond Literature

Sato Koichi: Polaris is very funny.

Osamu Nakamori: Yes, it’s very funny. We like to say behind her back that she is cute, but if we tell her face to face, she will laugh non-stop, and then cry in the diary that we didn’t regard her as a great writer with high morals and literary talents.

Koichi Sato: Hahaha, it’s so cute...it’s true, I often laughed when I read "Polaris Diary" published some time ago...how should I put it, I feel like a certain statue in my heart is broken, but the crumbs And form something more intimate.Having said that, Polaris is very approachable, although she keeps denying this... there is a kind of obsession.

Osamu Nakamori: Yes, her self-evaluation is different from that of the public. When Ryunosuke wrote "The Shore", Rie took materials from her. Everyone can see that, but she can't understand it at all.

Koichi Sato: Huh?Is Lie actually drawn from Polaris?

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Exactly.You see, Rie in "The Coast" has a colorful garden in spring - when we were still living opposite Mr. Polaris's house, Ryunosuke often stood at the window to look at the back garden of their house, and asked him where What to look at, sometimes looking at flowers and sometimes looking at trees, obviously there is a yard behind our house.Isn't the image of Lie sick and weak, who would be out of breath after taking two steps?

Koichi Sato: Yes, is Polaris not in good health?

Osamu Nakamori: That’s not true, it’s just that she doesn’t like exercising very much. In her words, the time and energy spent exercising far exceeds her desire to have a strong body.I remember it was when I was in middle school, because the school was far away from my home because I entered a higher school.At that time, Mr. Uchiha said he wanted her to pick us up from school, because she didn't like to take transportation, so she usually had to go out or walk when it was not a last resort. Mr. Uchiha thought she could move her.

Koichi Sato: What happened?

Nakamori Shuhiko: Hahaha she misremembered the name of Ryunosuke's school, so she ran to... well, it seems to be called Likai University or Mingkai University, and waited for a long time at the gate of a school.Oh, by the way, she wrote the draft of "The Happy Dead" while she was waiting for someone at the door.Because of this, she forgot to pick up the person, and the battery of the mobile phone died. In the end, it was Oda Sakunosuke's adopted son who happened to pass by and let her contact the person.

Sato Koichi: Oda Sakunosuke respects Polaris very much.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Oda Sakunosuke, Ryunosuke, Kyoka...the Yokohama school of that era respected her very much, not only because of her literary achievements, but more because of Polaris' love for literature.

Koichi Sato: That’s right. Almost all the writers in Yokohama of that era were excavated by Polaris. The Polaris Literary Foundation under her name was also established at that time. It’s really worthy of being a literary star. She has done so much hard work.

Shuhiko Nakamori: Sure enough, thanks to Mr. Uchiha.

Koichi Sato: It must be difficult to live with someone who sacrificed his soul to the god of literature, right?Mr. Uchiha's colleagues said that he has never seen him smile, and he has never participated in a dinner party after get off work. He is a very capable person, but he is very taciturn and difficult to get along with.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Uh...not really, Mr. Uchiha loves to laugh, and he often participates in our childish entertainment activities. He is also very good at throwing darts in the amusement park. Every time we go, we can ask him Get the toy you want.

Koichi Sato: Huh?It turns out that Mr. Uchiha is like this outside of work, yes, this is right.In the Polaris book, he is almost obsessed with admiration. Sometimes I can’t wait to ask my soul to ask what’s going on, why the Polaris, who has been happy all his life, can write so many cold and biting works. Could it be that the inspiration is really so bad? To be reasonable, only those who are chosen will be favored?

Osamu Nakamori: In the past, people often said that Polaris was moaning without illness. No matter how euphemistic it is, to put it bluntly, no one believes that a person who has seen war can write about the cruelty of war, just like people cannot understand a visit. How can a person who has been a terminally ill patient write about the state of mind of a terminally ill patient when he is dying... But isn't that what geniuses are like?I don't think it's surprising at all, just like Dazai Osamu, a fanatical suicide lover, can write such innocent fairy tales, isn't it a talent?

Sato Koichi: It is indeed talent. They are all destined to be writers, and Osamu Dazai has written books all his life.

Osamu Nakamori: I also committed suicide all my life hahaha.

Sato Koichi: The relationship between him and Polaris is not so much a relationship between seniors and juniors in the literary world, but more like awkward friends. There are hundreds of articles published in newspapers that criticize each other, but privately We will still have dinner together.

Osamu Nakamori: The fans of Polaris and Osamu Dazai have a very bad relationship.In fact, rather than saying that they are criticizing each other, it might be better to say that they are teasing each other.Polaris is full of praise for Osamu Dazai's work.

Sato Koichi: She also praised Osamu Dazai many times in her diary, so it makes people unable to understand why they criticize each other.

Osamu Nakamori: If I had to explain it, it would be "noteven wrong".

Koichi Sato: Huh?

Nakamori Osamuhiko: This is Mr. Uchiha’s explanation. In short, don’t look at Polaris’s evaluation of many people’s works, it’s because she admits and admires their works.The counterexample is those people she never mentioned, those people do not exist in her eyes, and what she writes is not literature at all.

Koichi Sato: It is precisely because it is literature that it has the value of evaluation.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: The current Polaris fans are quite annoying.

Koichi Sato: Polaris fans are annoying?How is this going?Uh, just to be clear, I'm also a Polaris fan.

Osamu Nakamori: It’s the kind of pursuit of “perfection”. It makes people feel very uncomfortable, because Polaris is not that kind of person at all. They describe Polaris as that kind of person, and then use it as a weapon to attack the enemy, but the fact On the contrary, Polaris is the person who cares the least about "perfection". In her eyes, except Mr. Uchiha, who is the most beautiful existence in the world, all other people and other things can be divided into literature-related or unrelated.How can such a person pursue perfection?What she pursued was only literature from beginning to end.

Koichi Sato: But there is nothing wrong with being perfect, right? Couldn’t the world depicted by Polaris in "Singra's World" be called the ultimate utopia for human beings?Although there is no doubt that we will never be able to reach such a world, but as a destination, we strive to keep approaching such a world. If human society does not develop for this purpose, then I really don’t know what else is worth it. struggled.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: It was Ryunosuke who told us, and it was he who noticed something was wrong at first.

Koichi Sato: Is something wrong?

Nakamori Osamuhiko: I can’t tell. Anyway, Ryunosuke’s explanation is that he feels that Polaris doesn’t think that way.

Sato Koichi: It feels like, then there is no other way, the mysterious electric waves among writers, after all, in terms of insight into people’s hearts, besides Fyodor, Akutagawa Ryunosuke is the only one praised by Polaris as being good at human feelings writer.

Nakamori: That guy is super scary, in a way.Very tough.In short, he felt that something was wrong, so he went directly to ask Polaris.Maybe there is also a reason for him to ask. If someone else asked, Polaris might not be willing to say it. She has always agreed with the idea that "the author is dead". "The perfect world is boring, although it is perfect, it is boring."That doesn't sound like something Polaris would say, does it?

Koichi Sato: ...How to put it, it really doesn't look like it.In my understanding, Polaris is a little more compassionate.

Osamu Nakamori: I really haven't met a more compassionate and kind person than Polaris, but that's not the same thing, it's like she said she's not really an approachable person, that's the same thing.In fact, Polaris neither likes to communicate with people, nor cares about human society outside of literature.To use a sentence that sounds scary but is inexplicably appropriate: In the eyes of Mr. Polaris, no matter what happens around him or the human beings within the social circle, they are nothing but her subjects.This is the fate of being the North Star of a great writer.

Koichi Sato: The destiny of a writer...but isn't that the Polaris outside of literature?Today we are talking about the North Star beyond literature.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: That's the problem.We can distinguish the North Star at different times, but she can't tell it apart.

Koichi Sato: Do ​​you sometimes confuse creation with life?

Nakamori: That's right, but it's not even a problem for her.For her, as long as there are no mistakes in the creation, then everything else is not very important.

Koichi Sato: Does it bother you to get along with such a North Star?

Osamu Nakamori: No way, she never sees us as very close people, so she doesn't let herself bother us.Probably only Mr. Uchiha can answer this question, but he certainly didn't take it to heart if I had to say it.

Koichi Sato: They don't have any children.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Yes, there are no children, but their lives are very fulfilling. I have never seen a life that is more suitable for summing up with "happiness" than theirs.fairy tales.That's right, if there are fairy tales in real life, I don't think it's a prince riding a white horse and a princess wearing jewels. The four words "happiness and happiness" are fairy tales.

Koichi Sato: It is said that one quarter of "North Star Diary" is about literati anecdotes about Yokohama literary circles, one quarter is about experiencing the rich and colorful inner world of Polaris, and the remaining half is full of enviable sweet words.I really envy Mr. Uchiha.

Osamu Nakamori: Sometimes I envy Mr. Uchiha, but sometimes I also think that if I were a woman, the object of envy would probably become Mr. Polaris.

Koichi Sato: Hahaha, it means that they are both talented and beautiful.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: It’s okay to say that, but on the other hand, there are times when these two people feel troublesome. At this time, I think it’s great that they are together, otherwise what should I do?

Koichi Sato: I have heard a lot about Polaris, but is there a time when Mr. Uchiha is troublesome?Silence should not count.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Let’s put it this way, if Polaris is not there, if you are alone with Mr. Uchiha, you will feel as if he does not exist.

Koichi Sato: No sense of existence?

Osamu Nakamori: It is not the non-existence of the invisible man, but the non-existence of the stone statue that you will automatically block.To be honest, although Mr. Polaris' whimsy and literati style often make people feel headaches, compared with Mr. Uchiha, he can at least get close.But...well...you know Mr. Uchiha is an expert in astrophysics, right?

Sato Koichi: Yes, he also has many achievements in this area.

Nakamori Osamuhiko: Logically speaking, a person chooses independently and has done something for a lifetime, just like Mr. Polaris did to literature, not to mention fanaticism, at least it should be love.

Koichi Sato: Of course, everyone will choose what they really want to do unless they are forced by life.

Osamu Nakamori: But Mr. Uchiha is not like that.He neither loves it nor hates it, he just doesn't feel it at all.He has been studying things for a lifetime, and feels that he doesn't pay special attention to them. They belong to the kind of existence that can be discarded at will.

Koichi Sato: It's kind of hard to understand.

Osamu Nakamori: There is a sentence that I remember very clearly. It was not long after we left the slums.When we first came out of the slums, the few of us felt trembling and uneasy. In the eyes of the other party, they often pulled us over to play and be with us.Once a few of us were eating snacks, reading books and laughing in the yard, and they were sitting in the corridor drinking afternoon tea. The sun was so strong that day that everyone in the corridor had to squint their eyes. Mr. Polaris was wearing a straw hat with a very wide brim, laughing Debigin looks like a child... They seem to be talking about Mr. Uchiha's research, such as "curvature", "dark matter" and "new particles". Later, Mr. Polaris seemed to ask something, but I didn't pay attention , I heard Mr. Uchiha say: "Fresh knowledge will induce curiosity, but that is not my source of motivation." Then Mr. Polaris smiled even more happily, almost brighter than the sun.

She said: "Your source of power is me, and mine is also you. It happens to be a closed loop. When the stars are full of literature, we should rest."