After announcing the matter, Kotomine Rizheng and Tosaka Tokiomi left first, Berserker's master also left without knowing when, and the remaining masters and heroic spirits stayed at the scene and looked at each other.
For the rest of the time, the church didn't dictate anything, leaving the heroic spirits to move freely. After all, they couldn't face so many heroic spirits at once.Even if there are heroic spirits who don't want to leave the field, they will be sent back to the outside of the world after losing the magic supply of the Holy Grail after the Holy Grail is removed.
Some people, such as Kenneth, who took the Holy Grail for honor, just snorted coldly, thinking that the Einzbern family who tricked him would pay the price, and left with Lancer.But hearing that the Holy Grail War has ended and the Holy Grail will be dismantled is not something everyone can accept calmly.
Artoria had a bad expression: "Holy Grail...Why is something like the Holy Grail polluted?"
Irisviel looked worried: "Saber..."
Saber's real master Emiya Kiritsugu lit a cigarette expressionlessly: "According to the records of the previous Holy Grail War, the Einzbern family summoned Angolan Newman who was an Avenger. He obviously has the name of a demon god." Angolan Newman is still a special eighth job Avenger, but the speed of exiting in the Holy Grail War is too fast. Thinking about it now, Angolan Newman was absorbed by the Holy Grail after the defeat, so he polluted the Holy Grail."
Arturia gripped the hilt of the sword unwillingly.
Dazai Mochizuki: ...An illusion?Why do I think I heard Kogoro Mori's voice again?
Dazai Mochizuki: ...for a moment, I recalled the experience of my past dates being interrupted all the time, and my mood began to deteriorate.
Iskandar was a little annoyed: "Well, really... Yu finally felt that he could have a good time, but he encountered such a thing before the victory. It's too disappointing."
Wei Bo was also very disappointed, especially... He still stole the mentor's holy relic to participate in the Holy Grail War, but he still failed to prove his ability.
... What a loss, what a loss!
Iskandar: "...The holy grail can't be used after being polluted? Yu's wish is just to get a body, so can such a wish not come true?" Iskandar felt a little lucky
Dazai Mochizuki, who was briefed on the evils of this world, interjected: "The current Holy Grail will fulfill wishes in evil ways, so... Iskandar, your wish is to obtain a body, maybe Just leave your body and your spirit wiped out? But I think there is another possibility—friend, do you know about blackening?"
"Friend?" Iskandar opened his eyes slightly, and then let out a hearty laugh, "That's right, goddess of the moon, I agree with your qualifications to call me a friend!"
He turned around: "But... what do you mean by blackening?"
"It means that the thoughts of the heroic spirits of the good camp will change to another side. For example, people with noble natures will become unscrupulous, and people who wish for peace may want to subvert the world. If you want to conquer the land, Iskandar, you may Become a tyrant worse than Gilgamesh. Your belief is to conquer but not humiliate the enemy. Later, it may become iron cavalry conquest, and the system oppresses the people in the conquered land. Well, in short, just be yourself A change in behavior that neither would approve of."
"If you can use the Holy Grail now, don't use it. It feels bad if things go against your wishes. For example, if Artoria's wish is to save her home country, I think it might become annihilation of all countries except yours. Once you come, your country won't perish... But I don't think Artoria kisses you, you don't want to use this method to fulfill your wish."
"...Indeed, I don't want to use this kind of price in exchange for the continuation of the motherland." Arturia said and suddenly looked at Dazai Mochizuki, "——Speaking of which, what is the name Arturia Kiss? ?” Artoria looked at Dazai Mochizuki with an expression of “this is detrimental to the majesty of the king”.
"Ah, ah..." Dazai Mochizuki looked away guiltily, and touched the back of his head. She couldn't say that this was a language addiction learned from a certain Miss Lixiang in her memory. She laughed and fooled, "I just think It’s more intimate to use cute names between friends.”
To her surprise, Artoria was noncommittal after listening, but did not refute her words.
Dazai Mochizuki: So...have I managed to get three kings to be friends with? nice!
"Speaking of... eh... the Master of Saber probably won't want to use this Holy Grail for anything anymore, right?" Dazai Mochizuki looked at Emiya Kiritsugu suspiciously. The guy with the gun trying to snipe them didn't make a good impression on her.This kind of killer-like character in the movie, maybe the Holy Grail is polluted by the sea of sin and his wish is fulfilled.
"... Whatever you think." Emiya Kiritsugu exhaled a puff of smoke, letting her be suspicious with a blank expression.
Dazai Mochizuki couldn't help but look him up and down, "Speaking of which, the Master and Heroic Spirit here don't know your wish... Your wish is not about revenge against society, right?"
"No." Emiya Kiritsugu had no intention of explaining.
But Irisviel didn't want to see her husband being misunderstood so far, so she stood up and explained for Kiritsugu: "No, Kiritsugu's wish is very great. His wish is for world peace."
As soon as these words came out, the whole scene was silent for a moment.
Iskandar pondered, looking at Saber's Master for the first time.
And forget about the others, Artoria actually showed shock, "What...Emiya Kiritsugu is this your wish?"
It seems that Arturia has long held grudges against Emiya Kiritsugu's means and character, and she was the one present with the most shocked expression.
Dazai Mochizuki came back to her senses after being surprised, her expression suddenly became serious: "World peace... is it? Such a wish cannot be realized."
"It is impossible to achieve such a wish with human power, so I entrust the wish to the Holy Grail... In short, this has nothing to do with you." Emiya Kiritsugu didn't want to say more.
Dazai Mochizuki sighed, couldn't help but glanced at Emiya Kiritsugu with the eyes of someone who came here, then stood with his arms folded and shook his head, his tone became old-fashioned: "Emiya Kiritsugu... Is that right, I'm not talking about human beings My eyes tell you that this is impossible, and as a goddess who ruled the world in the past, I tell you that such a wish is impossible to come true."
Emiya Kiritsugu paused suddenly, and suddenly raised his head to look at Dazai Mochizuki.
Dazai Mochizuki muttered in a low voice, "It's rare to meet someone who wants world peace", and then he explained to him patiently, "Even for me, I only deal with evil deeds within my ability, even if it is the same I don't care about the crimes that happen in the city, I only intervene in things that can be seen within the sight of normal people. Do you know why?"
"Not because I can't do it, but because I can do anything I want."
"If I want to uphold justice, such acts as murder must be stopped. In the same way, stealing, robbery, rape... These are all evil deeds and should be stopped. If the concept of evil deeds continues Ascending, when will it stop? There is an old saying that words have the power to kill without a blade, so spitting out evil words is also an evil deed, littering and crossing the road are also evil deeds, and all of these should be stopped.”
"My field of vision can cover the entire earth. Can I stop all the evil deeds? - I can really do it. If I really stipulate that people all over the world are not allowed to do evil deeds, you know it is called what?"
"—This is called totalitarianism."
"As a goddess who has ruled the world, as a person who has experienced it, I can say that I can implement dictatorship over the world. I set rules, I control humans to practice my rules, and I punish humans who violate the rules. I can It is said that the rules I set are good, but that human beings are not allowed to do bad things; my purpose is not for selfish desires, my purpose is for human beings to live better; but if I really do this, human beings will become happy Is it?—no."
"And in the past, I changed from a god respected by humans to an evil ghost hated by humans. The reason is that after I implemented a dictatorial rule, I gradually deviated from the human standpoint, and was finally terminated by the person representing the human standpoint."
"You may think that what I said has nothing to do with the peace you want. But have you ever thought about what peace you want? Is there no war? So what is the definition of war? How many disputes are wars? One person Is a struggle with one person a war? What about two people and two people? Is the competition of a class unit in a school sports meeting a war?"
"If it's not war, then is your goal not to kill people? If someone rapes, abuses, or insults another person, the victim can't stand the pain and decides to die with the perpetrator. Isn't this kind of killing okay? Narcotics police Can't kill drug dealers while chasing drug dealers?"
"If you admit that there are some evils that are worse than death, then the concept of 'peace' can be extended to stop the evils, then ... the question comes back to what I said earlier."
Dazai Mochizuki looked at him deeply, and said in a deep voice, "Then... what does 'peace' look like in your mind?"
Emiya Kiritsugu's bright eyes became even more hollow: "I... didn't think so much, I just..." Dazai Mochizuki couldn't help interrupting him, "If you don't know what to do to the extent of—do you want to hand over the thinking link to this vessel that has no thinking ability at all?"
Emiya Kiritsugu: "..." This dreamer with an extremely painful past who desperately wanted to achieve world peace felt a huge shock in his heart.
... Is it true that the desire for world peace cannot be realized?
Dazai Mochizuki did not despise his wish, after all, even if it is whimsical, such a wish is undoubtedly a selfless wish for the happiness of mankind.
"For human beings, world peace is impossible to achieve. Because the relationship between people cannot be completely isolated. Since there is communication, there must be friction. Therefore, human beings must be allowed to have negative parts."
Seeing that Emiya Kiritsugu seemed to be dejected, Dazai Mochizuki thought about it, and said again: "You are not the first person who wished for world peace. In my world, there was once a very powerful person, He has experienced so much pain that he is completely disappointed in human nature. He hopes for world peace, so the method he envisions is to hypnotize people all over the world, let all human beings lose their self-will and be controlled by him, and eliminate all disputes to realize the human world eternal peace and happiness."
"People who wish for world peace... probably have completely disappointed in human nature and human beings. You, like him, are good people who have experienced extreme pain and don't want others to experience such pain. It's a kind of gentle love." Dazai Mochizuki said, "Although I think your dream cannot be realized, I appreciate the great love you have, which is really admirable."
"...Ah, thank you." Emiya Kiritsugu stubbed out the cigarette butt, the corners of his mouth moved a few times, but his expressionless face remained unchanged.
Iskandar rubbed his chin, and couldn't help but interjected: "Your words are somewhat interesting... If the Holy Grail is not polluted, wish for world peace and let human beings change their nature so that they have no evil desires at all? "
Emiya Kiritsugu paused.
Dazai Mochizuki shook his head indifferently: "That is to change the entire species of human beings. I think the evil desire you mentioned is a false proposition. The definition of good and evil is difficult to debate clearly, but I am not good at philosophy, so I will not show my shame But let’s take a simple example: Looking at the whole world, there is no species without competition. Any creature will inevitably have intra-specific competition and inter-specific competition, even plants will compete for sunlight. Competition is a different kind of war, As long as it is a living thing, it cannot be peaceful forever."
The author has something to say:
Dazai Mochizuki: Although my teacher is not Aristotle, I am determined to win the Nobel Prize in Physiology.
For the rest of the time, the church didn't dictate anything, leaving the heroic spirits to move freely. After all, they couldn't face so many heroic spirits at once.Even if there are heroic spirits who don't want to leave the field, they will be sent back to the outside of the world after losing the magic supply of the Holy Grail after the Holy Grail is removed.
Some people, such as Kenneth, who took the Holy Grail for honor, just snorted coldly, thinking that the Einzbern family who tricked him would pay the price, and left with Lancer.But hearing that the Holy Grail War has ended and the Holy Grail will be dismantled is not something everyone can accept calmly.
Artoria had a bad expression: "Holy Grail...Why is something like the Holy Grail polluted?"
Irisviel looked worried: "Saber..."
Saber's real master Emiya Kiritsugu lit a cigarette expressionlessly: "According to the records of the previous Holy Grail War, the Einzbern family summoned Angolan Newman who was an Avenger. He obviously has the name of a demon god." Angolan Newman is still a special eighth job Avenger, but the speed of exiting in the Holy Grail War is too fast. Thinking about it now, Angolan Newman was absorbed by the Holy Grail after the defeat, so he polluted the Holy Grail."
Arturia gripped the hilt of the sword unwillingly.
Dazai Mochizuki: ...An illusion?Why do I think I heard Kogoro Mori's voice again?
Dazai Mochizuki: ...for a moment, I recalled the experience of my past dates being interrupted all the time, and my mood began to deteriorate.
Iskandar was a little annoyed: "Well, really... Yu finally felt that he could have a good time, but he encountered such a thing before the victory. It's too disappointing."
Wei Bo was also very disappointed, especially... He still stole the mentor's holy relic to participate in the Holy Grail War, but he still failed to prove his ability.
... What a loss, what a loss!
Iskandar: "...The holy grail can't be used after being polluted? Yu's wish is just to get a body, so can such a wish not come true?" Iskandar felt a little lucky
Dazai Mochizuki, who was briefed on the evils of this world, interjected: "The current Holy Grail will fulfill wishes in evil ways, so... Iskandar, your wish is to obtain a body, maybe Just leave your body and your spirit wiped out? But I think there is another possibility—friend, do you know about blackening?"
"Friend?" Iskandar opened his eyes slightly, and then let out a hearty laugh, "That's right, goddess of the moon, I agree with your qualifications to call me a friend!"
He turned around: "But... what do you mean by blackening?"
"It means that the thoughts of the heroic spirits of the good camp will change to another side. For example, people with noble natures will become unscrupulous, and people who wish for peace may want to subvert the world. If you want to conquer the land, Iskandar, you may Become a tyrant worse than Gilgamesh. Your belief is to conquer but not humiliate the enemy. Later, it may become iron cavalry conquest, and the system oppresses the people in the conquered land. Well, in short, just be yourself A change in behavior that neither would approve of."
"If you can use the Holy Grail now, don't use it. It feels bad if things go against your wishes. For example, if Artoria's wish is to save her home country, I think it might become annihilation of all countries except yours. Once you come, your country won't perish... But I don't think Artoria kisses you, you don't want to use this method to fulfill your wish."
"...Indeed, I don't want to use this kind of price in exchange for the continuation of the motherland." Arturia said and suddenly looked at Dazai Mochizuki, "——Speaking of which, what is the name Arturia Kiss? ?” Artoria looked at Dazai Mochizuki with an expression of “this is detrimental to the majesty of the king”.
"Ah, ah..." Dazai Mochizuki looked away guiltily, and touched the back of his head. She couldn't say that this was a language addiction learned from a certain Miss Lixiang in her memory. She laughed and fooled, "I just think It’s more intimate to use cute names between friends.”
To her surprise, Artoria was noncommittal after listening, but did not refute her words.
Dazai Mochizuki: So...have I managed to get three kings to be friends with? nice!
"Speaking of... eh... the Master of Saber probably won't want to use this Holy Grail for anything anymore, right?" Dazai Mochizuki looked at Emiya Kiritsugu suspiciously. The guy with the gun trying to snipe them didn't make a good impression on her.This kind of killer-like character in the movie, maybe the Holy Grail is polluted by the sea of sin and his wish is fulfilled.
"... Whatever you think." Emiya Kiritsugu exhaled a puff of smoke, letting her be suspicious with a blank expression.
Dazai Mochizuki couldn't help but look him up and down, "Speaking of which, the Master and Heroic Spirit here don't know your wish... Your wish is not about revenge against society, right?"
"No." Emiya Kiritsugu had no intention of explaining.
But Irisviel didn't want to see her husband being misunderstood so far, so she stood up and explained for Kiritsugu: "No, Kiritsugu's wish is very great. His wish is for world peace."
As soon as these words came out, the whole scene was silent for a moment.
Iskandar pondered, looking at Saber's Master for the first time.
And forget about the others, Artoria actually showed shock, "What...Emiya Kiritsugu is this your wish?"
It seems that Arturia has long held grudges against Emiya Kiritsugu's means and character, and she was the one present with the most shocked expression.
Dazai Mochizuki came back to her senses after being surprised, her expression suddenly became serious: "World peace... is it? Such a wish cannot be realized."
"It is impossible to achieve such a wish with human power, so I entrust the wish to the Holy Grail... In short, this has nothing to do with you." Emiya Kiritsugu didn't want to say more.
Dazai Mochizuki sighed, couldn't help but glanced at Emiya Kiritsugu with the eyes of someone who came here, then stood with his arms folded and shook his head, his tone became old-fashioned: "Emiya Kiritsugu... Is that right, I'm not talking about human beings My eyes tell you that this is impossible, and as a goddess who ruled the world in the past, I tell you that such a wish is impossible to come true."
Emiya Kiritsugu paused suddenly, and suddenly raised his head to look at Dazai Mochizuki.
Dazai Mochizuki muttered in a low voice, "It's rare to meet someone who wants world peace", and then he explained to him patiently, "Even for me, I only deal with evil deeds within my ability, even if it is the same I don't care about the crimes that happen in the city, I only intervene in things that can be seen within the sight of normal people. Do you know why?"
"Not because I can't do it, but because I can do anything I want."
"If I want to uphold justice, such acts as murder must be stopped. In the same way, stealing, robbery, rape... These are all evil deeds and should be stopped. If the concept of evil deeds continues Ascending, when will it stop? There is an old saying that words have the power to kill without a blade, so spitting out evil words is also an evil deed, littering and crossing the road are also evil deeds, and all of these should be stopped.”
"My field of vision can cover the entire earth. Can I stop all the evil deeds? - I can really do it. If I really stipulate that people all over the world are not allowed to do evil deeds, you know it is called what?"
"—This is called totalitarianism."
"As a goddess who has ruled the world, as a person who has experienced it, I can say that I can implement dictatorship over the world. I set rules, I control humans to practice my rules, and I punish humans who violate the rules. I can It is said that the rules I set are good, but that human beings are not allowed to do bad things; my purpose is not for selfish desires, my purpose is for human beings to live better; but if I really do this, human beings will become happy Is it?—no."
"And in the past, I changed from a god respected by humans to an evil ghost hated by humans. The reason is that after I implemented a dictatorial rule, I gradually deviated from the human standpoint, and was finally terminated by the person representing the human standpoint."
"You may think that what I said has nothing to do with the peace you want. But have you ever thought about what peace you want? Is there no war? So what is the definition of war? How many disputes are wars? One person Is a struggle with one person a war? What about two people and two people? Is the competition of a class unit in a school sports meeting a war?"
"If it's not war, then is your goal not to kill people? If someone rapes, abuses, or insults another person, the victim can't stand the pain and decides to die with the perpetrator. Isn't this kind of killing okay? Narcotics police Can't kill drug dealers while chasing drug dealers?"
"If you admit that there are some evils that are worse than death, then the concept of 'peace' can be extended to stop the evils, then ... the question comes back to what I said earlier."
Dazai Mochizuki looked at him deeply, and said in a deep voice, "Then... what does 'peace' look like in your mind?"
Emiya Kiritsugu's bright eyes became even more hollow: "I... didn't think so much, I just..." Dazai Mochizuki couldn't help interrupting him, "If you don't know what to do to the extent of—do you want to hand over the thinking link to this vessel that has no thinking ability at all?"
Emiya Kiritsugu: "..." This dreamer with an extremely painful past who desperately wanted to achieve world peace felt a huge shock in his heart.
... Is it true that the desire for world peace cannot be realized?
Dazai Mochizuki did not despise his wish, after all, even if it is whimsical, such a wish is undoubtedly a selfless wish for the happiness of mankind.
"For human beings, world peace is impossible to achieve. Because the relationship between people cannot be completely isolated. Since there is communication, there must be friction. Therefore, human beings must be allowed to have negative parts."
Seeing that Emiya Kiritsugu seemed to be dejected, Dazai Mochizuki thought about it, and said again: "You are not the first person who wished for world peace. In my world, there was once a very powerful person, He has experienced so much pain that he is completely disappointed in human nature. He hopes for world peace, so the method he envisions is to hypnotize people all over the world, let all human beings lose their self-will and be controlled by him, and eliminate all disputes to realize the human world eternal peace and happiness."
"People who wish for world peace... probably have completely disappointed in human nature and human beings. You, like him, are good people who have experienced extreme pain and don't want others to experience such pain. It's a kind of gentle love." Dazai Mochizuki said, "Although I think your dream cannot be realized, I appreciate the great love you have, which is really admirable."
"...Ah, thank you." Emiya Kiritsugu stubbed out the cigarette butt, the corners of his mouth moved a few times, but his expressionless face remained unchanged.
Iskandar rubbed his chin, and couldn't help but interjected: "Your words are somewhat interesting... If the Holy Grail is not polluted, wish for world peace and let human beings change their nature so that they have no evil desires at all? "
Emiya Kiritsugu paused.
Dazai Mochizuki shook his head indifferently: "That is to change the entire species of human beings. I think the evil desire you mentioned is a false proposition. The definition of good and evil is difficult to debate clearly, but I am not good at philosophy, so I will not show my shame But let’s take a simple example: Looking at the whole world, there is no species without competition. Any creature will inevitably have intra-specific competition and inter-specific competition, even plants will compete for sunlight. Competition is a different kind of war, As long as it is a living thing, it cannot be peaceful forever."
The author has something to say:
Dazai Mochizuki: Although my teacher is not Aristotle, I am determined to win the Nobel Prize in Physiology.
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