However, Helian Xiuming did not intend to let Yan Yueheng buy it.
Helian Xiuming continued to bury his head in his meal.
Yan Yueheng's curiosity was aroused:
"Don't stop talking halfway! I feel like a cat's paw scratching my heart. What project are you going to do?"
After Helian Xiuming swallowed, he drank his saliva and prepared to answer.
But after he finished drinking, he looked at the water marks on the edge of the thermos, and couldn't help being silent for a while.
In his thermal wolfberry water, there was a faint smell of mint chewing gum.
Ouch.
Yan Yueheng didn't even eat the steak, and kept pestering him to ask:
"Or, make a list for me after dinner?"
Helian Xiuming shook his head lightly: "No, this project doesn't make money, and it's very expensive."
Yan Yueheng became more and more curious:
"What project? How do you know it won't make money? You're so good, why don't you make money?"
"It will be a loss, a loss," Helian Xiuming sighed: "You have also noticed that although we can indeed develop 4G, the development and production of 4G equipment, circuit debugging software, various electromagnetic measuring instruments, and machine tools with sufficient precision , chip manufacturing machines... all have to be bought at high prices from developed countries."
He took the pricing power and lowered Senior Brother Yan's profit, but the cost couldn't go down.
The list, after weighing, has a relatively good price-to-price ratio.
After hearing this, Yan Yueheng became excited:
"You are going to develop equipment, and we are all ready to do it ourselves! It's very good! Buy it from someone else, and you have to pay someone else expensive patent fees."
Helian Xiuming shook his head lightly:
"We can currently develop some of these devices. However, the prerequisite for research and development is to rely on imported instruments."
"Our country is very vast, and the environment is varied. For example, research and development, and testing base stations must be equipped with high-precision scientific experimental instruments."
"For example, nationwide, to make chips that can work normally in different environments, the measuring instruments must adapt to various environments.
Adapt to the measurement of high temperature, sub-zero low temperature, various humidity, magnetic field, high altitude, deep sea, fast traveling... etc., or have the means to create and simulate these environments.
It is also necessary to provide stable and reliable data so that we can better debug the material, test the effect of material quenching and processing, and find a better improvement plan. "
"We currently rely on buying these devices, and some of them are still unavailable."
"As long as we launch 4G, equipment suppliers will get stuck and won't let us continue to develop."
"For example, if the scientific instruments used for experiments are like microscopes."
"The equipment in that ugly country can already perform surgery on cells, inject nanoneedles into cells, and observe the entry and exit of nanomolecules. There is a complete set of surgery and observation systems."
"And our current level, scientific instruments have not kept up."
"If they refuse to supply—"
"In the absence of advanced microscopes, we have to use ordinary magnifying glasses to observe cells, observe viruses, use ordinary magnifying glasses to observe nanomolecules, and make nanoneedles."
"How to do it?"
"I can't do it at all!"
"If foreign countries do not allow us to buy, or deliberately make mistakes, thereby affecting our data, it will affect all our industries."
Yan Yueheng:? ? ?
Yan Yueheng was the first to deny:
"I kind of understand what you want to do, measuring instruments? Can't you buy them all?"
"And, as you said, I don't think foreigners will do this. How can such a thing happen?"
"They want to sell things to the whole world and make money, how can they not sell them to us?"
"People still believe in Christ. They are all kind-hearted. They won't deceive people like this. Only people in our country have no faith. Too many liars will die."
"So you don't want to conspiracy about them? How convenient it is to buy."
Helian Xiuming: "..."
Helen Xiuming fell silent.
He turned out to be a man who conspired against foreign operations...
With so many people in China, there are indeed liars.
Deceit is still advancing with the times and emerges endlessly...
Don't talk about others, just talk about Senior Brother Yan.
Senior Brother Yan used to be a little liar.
As for the neck of foreign countries, things have not happened yet, and Helian Xiuming can only make guesses, and cannot refute them very strongly.
Brother Yan thought he could buy it, but he didn't know that after our country's level rose, these things would be stuck and suppressed for development.
Brother Yan thought that if foreigners believed in Christianity, they would not deceive people. In fact, some good people who really believe in religion and politicians and capitalists who believe in religion on the surface are basically two groups.
Ugly countries have examples of suspected fraud on scarce resources.
Such as lunar soil.
He is mainly involved in the Beidou communication satellite system.
The Chang'e lunar landing project team next door, before making Chang'e, before Chang'e can bring back the lunar soil.
The country used a lot of resources and returned the scarce national treasure pandas in exchange for a mere gram of precious lunar soil.
It was also advertised as a gift by Ugly Country.
Scientists in our country have done research on the hard-earned and extremely precious lunar soil, and found that the composition of the lunar soil is similar to that on the earth. They have made various guesses and published many papers.
It wasn't until Chang'e of our country brought back the lunar soil that I discovered——
The composition of the lunar soil sampled by Chang'e is completely different from that of the 1 gram of lunar soil back then! !
Didn't the papers of that year make others laugh out loud.
In imported products, such as a certain car, there is a precedent for frequent accidents.
However, imported scientific instruments are extremely expensive to maintain, and the attitude is not good.
But so far, none of these things have exploded.
Even Senior Brother Yan thinks this way, and it is estimated that there are quite a few leaders in China who think this way.
Everyone thinks that other people have good technology, so just buy what they make.
In his previous life, until he was about to die, the domestic level had improved, and there were too many cases of being stuck, so the independent research and development of scientific instruments was not taken seriously.
Helian Xiuming let out a long breath, after thinking about it, he could only refute one point:
"Then, Senior Brother Yan, what do you think, when our 4G is monopolized all over the world, after you have made huge profits from the monopoly and knocked down the 3G suppliers of Chouguo, Chouguo will sell you experimental equipment at a low price, Support you to continue to develop advanced technology that can surpass and monopolize the world?"
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng tried to persuade Helian Xiuming in reverse:
"If you judge others by yourself, indeed, I will be very angry and sell it at a high price."
"But you don't understand, people are civilized and ugly, and every rich man does charity."
"No matter what we develop, they can also make money by supplying us with experimental equipment. Let them monopolize the experimental equipment."
"In terms of research and development, the investment is huge."
Helian Xiuming didn't want to argue with him, so he just followed his words:
"Indeed, it's hundreds of billions."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng made a calculation:
"Huaxing's market value is only [-] billion yuan. You have to sell a few Huaxing to be able to support it!"
Helian Xiuming added:
"After they monopolized the experimental equipment, they sold the equipment to the whole world. According to the financial report, they can return one-tenth of the cost a year."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
That elementary school boy doesn't want to buy products that others have worked so hard to develop, and insists on losing hundreds of billions in one go.
Is there something wrong with the elementary school boy's brain?
Taking a step back, even if he was stuck, if he had to lose a few Huaxing to support R&D, he might as well declare bankruptcy.
Yan Yueheng didn't dare to say that.
He just secretly felt...
Helian Xiuming said lonely and authentically:
"This is the case. Our country originally had a large number of companies that developed these high-end instruments, but due to the choice of the market and the encirclement and suppression of foreign instrument companies, they have all closed down long ago."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng opened the notebook he brought over, and opened the financial report of the company he bought the equipment from.
Immediately speechless: "I really remember correctly, they lose 90% every year..."
"Although the financial report is not necessarily a real loss, the financial report of the company with the best equipment is not good, and the company that develops these in my country has also closed down, so what else are you developing?"
Helian Xiuming: "..."
Helian Xiuming had no intention of eating at all, so he swallowed the rest of the meal, and said:
"Only when high-end scientific instruments are produced can we better develop technology and not be stuck in things like microscopes."
"After all these hard work, before being stuck, it is very difficult to sell, and it will not pay back at all."
"For one thing, apart from our own company, the only ones that need these high-end instruments are the research institutes. Indeed, the audience is very small."
"Secondly, even if it is made, everyone will only buy instruments imported from foreign countries, and there is too much prejudice against domestic products."
"It's true that we don't make money. Indeed, in the short term, we will lose more than our predecessors who went bankrupt."
"However, after it is made, the high-end technology of the whole industry will develop rapidly."
"Huaxing's business will not be restricted by these."
"Otherwise, why would Ugly do it at a loss?"
"but--"
"I never intended to ask Senior Brother Yan to support me in doing this."
If there is no state support, no company is willing to lose money like this.
What's more, Senior Brother Yan doesn't have such a long-term vision, he only sees the current loss.
Well...it's going to cost Huaxing a few dollars.
Helian Xiuming originally planned to apply for funds from the state, and gradually fill in the gaps in high-end scientific instruments in the country.
However, to apply for a scientific research fund, even a special fund for scientific instruments, you must apply in the name of a scientific research institution with sufficient qualifications, not in the name of an individual.
It is also recommended by a qualified superior unit.
Like a thesis, even if it is the same paper, there is a big difference in the probability of passing the manuscript between the one with a strong tutor and the name written on it;
After being recommended, you have to compete head-on with other profitable and rewarding projects, comparing qualifications, achievements, credibility, performance, and the number of papers in foreign journals... to compete for the amount of the fund.
If Helian Xiuming didn't join the research institute, his current major and experience would not meet the application criteria.
Not to mention working on a loss-making project, even if it is a profitable project, if you go to another company, the boss does not understand scientific research, and if you look at his major and the number of papers he has zero, you will not be allowed to enter directly.
I can only hope that after the 4G is produced, there will be actual results in hand, and this situation will improve, making it easier for him to go to various research institutes.
If Senior Brother Yan is willing to lend him the scientific research team of Huaxing Group, he can apply directly.
However, Senior Brother Yan is a businessman.
He is not happy if he earns less, so he can let Senior Brother Yan do things that lose money?
Even if only one or two scientific research groups are going to specialize in the research and development of scientific instruments, the human resources of these scientific research groups are originally arranged to research and develop profitable projects.
For Senior Brother Yan, not only did he not make money, but he also lost money.
Helian Xiuming put the lunch box aside, continued to work, sighed, and said:
"Senior brother Yan will definitely not support me, but I will tell you only if you ask."
"I went back to work after eating."
"Brother Yan, you can do what you want."
For some reason, Yan Yueheng keenly felt that although the elementary school boy said no, when he actually refused to give, there was a deep sense of disappointment.
Also chasing customers!
Yan Yueheng let out a "tsk", hooked Helian Xiuming's neck with one hand, and said next to his ear:
"I don't have money to support you, so don't you blame yourself?"
"Who told you to insist that I earn less? Aren't the small apartment and the small bed enough to wake you up?"
"If I earn a lot, maybe I can support you."
Helian Xiuming corrected him:
"Not supporting me."
"It is to support the independent research and development of the whole industry."
"Forget it, you don't understand..." Helian Xiuming rubbed Senior Brother Yan's head: "You go to work too, I'll finish the 4G first."
Yan Yueheng couldn't bear it anymore!
With a snort, Yan Yueheng straightened out his hairstyle and asked in group messages:
[Is there any good project that must make money?take me one. 】
Duan Xiuzhou was the first to send a message:
[Yes, my movie is absolutely profitable, Brother Heng, do you want to invest? 】
Yan Yueheng quickly moved away from the laptop screen, poked the keyboard and scolded him:
[For a small amount of money like making a movie, how much is the highest box office? Last year's highest box office was only [-] million?The box office has to be divided out. 】
[It's only so little money, I still don't like it. 】
For the first time, Yan Yueheng felt that the gap between the two brothers was too big.
If nothing else, just talk about money.
His family, Helian Xiuming, didn't know if he had fed his appetite, or because of other reasons, he was able to focus on projects that lost hundreds of billions in one breath, must lose, and had a previous record of bankruptcy!
The key is that you can buy all those things, so why make it yourself at a loss?
Even if he believes that others are philanthropists with faith and does not engage in research and development, he will not lose so much.
Duan Xiuzhou, on the other hand, only focused on movie projects that could earn hundreds of millions at most.
Hey.
The little sun is not easy to raise.
Duan Xiuzhou: "..."
What's going on, the gay in the book who delivers food to him not only doesn't give him money for concerts, he doesn't even invest in movies?
The author has something to say: Seeing the comments, some people like to read the career line, but writing career like this chapter, I feel that there is always a suspicion of low word count qwq
So a lot of the 4G part was skipped before!
Helian Xiuming continued to bury his head in his meal.
Yan Yueheng's curiosity was aroused:
"Don't stop talking halfway! I feel like a cat's paw scratching my heart. What project are you going to do?"
After Helian Xiuming swallowed, he drank his saliva and prepared to answer.
But after he finished drinking, he looked at the water marks on the edge of the thermos, and couldn't help being silent for a while.
In his thermal wolfberry water, there was a faint smell of mint chewing gum.
Ouch.
Yan Yueheng didn't even eat the steak, and kept pestering him to ask:
"Or, make a list for me after dinner?"
Helian Xiuming shook his head lightly: "No, this project doesn't make money, and it's very expensive."
Yan Yueheng became more and more curious:
"What project? How do you know it won't make money? You're so good, why don't you make money?"
"It will be a loss, a loss," Helian Xiuming sighed: "You have also noticed that although we can indeed develop 4G, the development and production of 4G equipment, circuit debugging software, various electromagnetic measuring instruments, and machine tools with sufficient precision , chip manufacturing machines... all have to be bought at high prices from developed countries."
He took the pricing power and lowered Senior Brother Yan's profit, but the cost couldn't go down.
The list, after weighing, has a relatively good price-to-price ratio.
After hearing this, Yan Yueheng became excited:
"You are going to develop equipment, and we are all ready to do it ourselves! It's very good! Buy it from someone else, and you have to pay someone else expensive patent fees."
Helian Xiuming shook his head lightly:
"We can currently develop some of these devices. However, the prerequisite for research and development is to rely on imported instruments."
"Our country is very vast, and the environment is varied. For example, research and development, and testing base stations must be equipped with high-precision scientific experimental instruments."
"For example, nationwide, to make chips that can work normally in different environments, the measuring instruments must adapt to various environments.
Adapt to the measurement of high temperature, sub-zero low temperature, various humidity, magnetic field, high altitude, deep sea, fast traveling... etc., or have the means to create and simulate these environments.
It is also necessary to provide stable and reliable data so that we can better debug the material, test the effect of material quenching and processing, and find a better improvement plan. "
"We currently rely on buying these devices, and some of them are still unavailable."
"As long as we launch 4G, equipment suppliers will get stuck and won't let us continue to develop."
"For example, if the scientific instruments used for experiments are like microscopes."
"The equipment in that ugly country can already perform surgery on cells, inject nanoneedles into cells, and observe the entry and exit of nanomolecules. There is a complete set of surgery and observation systems."
"And our current level, scientific instruments have not kept up."
"If they refuse to supply—"
"In the absence of advanced microscopes, we have to use ordinary magnifying glasses to observe cells, observe viruses, use ordinary magnifying glasses to observe nanomolecules, and make nanoneedles."
"How to do it?"
"I can't do it at all!"
"If foreign countries do not allow us to buy, or deliberately make mistakes, thereby affecting our data, it will affect all our industries."
Yan Yueheng:? ? ?
Yan Yueheng was the first to deny:
"I kind of understand what you want to do, measuring instruments? Can't you buy them all?"
"And, as you said, I don't think foreigners will do this. How can such a thing happen?"
"They want to sell things to the whole world and make money, how can they not sell them to us?"
"People still believe in Christ. They are all kind-hearted. They won't deceive people like this. Only people in our country have no faith. Too many liars will die."
"So you don't want to conspiracy about them? How convenient it is to buy."
Helian Xiuming: "..."
Helen Xiuming fell silent.
He turned out to be a man who conspired against foreign operations...
With so many people in China, there are indeed liars.
Deceit is still advancing with the times and emerges endlessly...
Don't talk about others, just talk about Senior Brother Yan.
Senior Brother Yan used to be a little liar.
As for the neck of foreign countries, things have not happened yet, and Helian Xiuming can only make guesses, and cannot refute them very strongly.
Brother Yan thought he could buy it, but he didn't know that after our country's level rose, these things would be stuck and suppressed for development.
Brother Yan thought that if foreigners believed in Christianity, they would not deceive people. In fact, some good people who really believe in religion and politicians and capitalists who believe in religion on the surface are basically two groups.
Ugly countries have examples of suspected fraud on scarce resources.
Such as lunar soil.
He is mainly involved in the Beidou communication satellite system.
The Chang'e lunar landing project team next door, before making Chang'e, before Chang'e can bring back the lunar soil.
The country used a lot of resources and returned the scarce national treasure pandas in exchange for a mere gram of precious lunar soil.
It was also advertised as a gift by Ugly Country.
Scientists in our country have done research on the hard-earned and extremely precious lunar soil, and found that the composition of the lunar soil is similar to that on the earth. They have made various guesses and published many papers.
It wasn't until Chang'e of our country brought back the lunar soil that I discovered——
The composition of the lunar soil sampled by Chang'e is completely different from that of the 1 gram of lunar soil back then! !
Didn't the papers of that year make others laugh out loud.
In imported products, such as a certain car, there is a precedent for frequent accidents.
However, imported scientific instruments are extremely expensive to maintain, and the attitude is not good.
But so far, none of these things have exploded.
Even Senior Brother Yan thinks this way, and it is estimated that there are quite a few leaders in China who think this way.
Everyone thinks that other people have good technology, so just buy what they make.
In his previous life, until he was about to die, the domestic level had improved, and there were too many cases of being stuck, so the independent research and development of scientific instruments was not taken seriously.
Helian Xiuming let out a long breath, after thinking about it, he could only refute one point:
"Then, Senior Brother Yan, what do you think, when our 4G is monopolized all over the world, after you have made huge profits from the monopoly and knocked down the 3G suppliers of Chouguo, Chouguo will sell you experimental equipment at a low price, Support you to continue to develop advanced technology that can surpass and monopolize the world?"
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng tried to persuade Helian Xiuming in reverse:
"If you judge others by yourself, indeed, I will be very angry and sell it at a high price."
"But you don't understand, people are civilized and ugly, and every rich man does charity."
"No matter what we develop, they can also make money by supplying us with experimental equipment. Let them monopolize the experimental equipment."
"In terms of research and development, the investment is huge."
Helian Xiuming didn't want to argue with him, so he just followed his words:
"Indeed, it's hundreds of billions."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng made a calculation:
"Huaxing's market value is only [-] billion yuan. You have to sell a few Huaxing to be able to support it!"
Helian Xiuming added:
"After they monopolized the experimental equipment, they sold the equipment to the whole world. According to the financial report, they can return one-tenth of the cost a year."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
That elementary school boy doesn't want to buy products that others have worked so hard to develop, and insists on losing hundreds of billions in one go.
Is there something wrong with the elementary school boy's brain?
Taking a step back, even if he was stuck, if he had to lose a few Huaxing to support R&D, he might as well declare bankruptcy.
Yan Yueheng didn't dare to say that.
He just secretly felt...
Helian Xiuming said lonely and authentically:
"This is the case. Our country originally had a large number of companies that developed these high-end instruments, but due to the choice of the market and the encirclement and suppression of foreign instrument companies, they have all closed down long ago."
Yan Yueheng: "..."
Yan Yueheng opened the notebook he brought over, and opened the financial report of the company he bought the equipment from.
Immediately speechless: "I really remember correctly, they lose 90% every year..."
"Although the financial report is not necessarily a real loss, the financial report of the company with the best equipment is not good, and the company that develops these in my country has also closed down, so what else are you developing?"
Helian Xiuming: "..."
Helian Xiuming had no intention of eating at all, so he swallowed the rest of the meal, and said:
"Only when high-end scientific instruments are produced can we better develop technology and not be stuck in things like microscopes."
"After all these hard work, before being stuck, it is very difficult to sell, and it will not pay back at all."
"For one thing, apart from our own company, the only ones that need these high-end instruments are the research institutes. Indeed, the audience is very small."
"Secondly, even if it is made, everyone will only buy instruments imported from foreign countries, and there is too much prejudice against domestic products."
"It's true that we don't make money. Indeed, in the short term, we will lose more than our predecessors who went bankrupt."
"However, after it is made, the high-end technology of the whole industry will develop rapidly."
"Huaxing's business will not be restricted by these."
"Otherwise, why would Ugly do it at a loss?"
"but--"
"I never intended to ask Senior Brother Yan to support me in doing this."
If there is no state support, no company is willing to lose money like this.
What's more, Senior Brother Yan doesn't have such a long-term vision, he only sees the current loss.
Well...it's going to cost Huaxing a few dollars.
Helian Xiuming originally planned to apply for funds from the state, and gradually fill in the gaps in high-end scientific instruments in the country.
However, to apply for a scientific research fund, even a special fund for scientific instruments, you must apply in the name of a scientific research institution with sufficient qualifications, not in the name of an individual.
It is also recommended by a qualified superior unit.
Like a thesis, even if it is the same paper, there is a big difference in the probability of passing the manuscript between the one with a strong tutor and the name written on it;
After being recommended, you have to compete head-on with other profitable and rewarding projects, comparing qualifications, achievements, credibility, performance, and the number of papers in foreign journals... to compete for the amount of the fund.
If Helian Xiuming didn't join the research institute, his current major and experience would not meet the application criteria.
Not to mention working on a loss-making project, even if it is a profitable project, if you go to another company, the boss does not understand scientific research, and if you look at his major and the number of papers he has zero, you will not be allowed to enter directly.
I can only hope that after the 4G is produced, there will be actual results in hand, and this situation will improve, making it easier for him to go to various research institutes.
If Senior Brother Yan is willing to lend him the scientific research team of Huaxing Group, he can apply directly.
However, Senior Brother Yan is a businessman.
He is not happy if he earns less, so he can let Senior Brother Yan do things that lose money?
Even if only one or two scientific research groups are going to specialize in the research and development of scientific instruments, the human resources of these scientific research groups are originally arranged to research and develop profitable projects.
For Senior Brother Yan, not only did he not make money, but he also lost money.
Helian Xiuming put the lunch box aside, continued to work, sighed, and said:
"Senior brother Yan will definitely not support me, but I will tell you only if you ask."
"I went back to work after eating."
"Brother Yan, you can do what you want."
For some reason, Yan Yueheng keenly felt that although the elementary school boy said no, when he actually refused to give, there was a deep sense of disappointment.
Also chasing customers!
Yan Yueheng let out a "tsk", hooked Helian Xiuming's neck with one hand, and said next to his ear:
"I don't have money to support you, so don't you blame yourself?"
"Who told you to insist that I earn less? Aren't the small apartment and the small bed enough to wake you up?"
"If I earn a lot, maybe I can support you."
Helian Xiuming corrected him:
"Not supporting me."
"It is to support the independent research and development of the whole industry."
"Forget it, you don't understand..." Helian Xiuming rubbed Senior Brother Yan's head: "You go to work too, I'll finish the 4G first."
Yan Yueheng couldn't bear it anymore!
With a snort, Yan Yueheng straightened out his hairstyle and asked in group messages:
[Is there any good project that must make money?take me one. 】
Duan Xiuzhou was the first to send a message:
[Yes, my movie is absolutely profitable, Brother Heng, do you want to invest? 】
Yan Yueheng quickly moved away from the laptop screen, poked the keyboard and scolded him:
[For a small amount of money like making a movie, how much is the highest box office? Last year's highest box office was only [-] million?The box office has to be divided out. 】
[It's only so little money, I still don't like it. 】
For the first time, Yan Yueheng felt that the gap between the two brothers was too big.
If nothing else, just talk about money.
His family, Helian Xiuming, didn't know if he had fed his appetite, or because of other reasons, he was able to focus on projects that lost hundreds of billions in one breath, must lose, and had a previous record of bankruptcy!
The key is that you can buy all those things, so why make it yourself at a loss?
Even if he believes that others are philanthropists with faith and does not engage in research and development, he will not lose so much.
Duan Xiuzhou, on the other hand, only focused on movie projects that could earn hundreds of millions at most.
Hey.
The little sun is not easy to raise.
Duan Xiuzhou: "..."
What's going on, the gay in the book who delivers food to him not only doesn't give him money for concerts, he doesn't even invest in movies?
The author has something to say: Seeing the comments, some people like to read the career line, but writing career like this chapter, I feel that there is always a suspicion of low word count qwq
So a lot of the 4G part was skipped before!
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