Non-Honmaru Inner Honwan [Comprehensive]
Chapter 390
The answer to this question is very interesting - the men of swords and swords began to speculate about Matsunaga Hide's "time travel" quite early, but because there was no unified statement, they did not report to Saburo.Saburo's high mobility is reflected in all aspects of his life, whether it is for retainers or swordsmen, what is often required is the result rather than the process involving a lot of things.With such a protagonist who pays attention to results, it is only natural for the swordsmen to adjust their behavior patterns-if Saburo can't accommodate them, they have to accommodate Saburo themselves.Therefore, like those things that have not yet been concluded and are not urgent, the men with swords and swords will not report to Saburo in detail.
After all, it’s useless to say it. With Saburo’s character, can the sword man still expect to get any advice from Saburo!
Don't think about it, the entire Oda family doesn't have this kind of treatment.If Saburo doesn't speak, it's all right, once he speaks, it's already a decision!
In short, the sword man has always been getting along with Saburo in this way, and so far there has been no problem...except that the argument was too fierce just now, which caused the scene to be suddenly embarrassed by Saburo's casual question.
The creator of the embarrassment didn't know what was wrong with what he just said, but simply and confidently waited for the answer from the Sword Fusangshen.After a brief silence, Yiqi Yizhen replied with a polite smile: "It's been a while since I discovered it, and I thought I'd report to you when I had a conclusion."
Fortunately, Saburo was just asking casually at first, and didn't intend to delve into anything (has Saburo really delved into anything), so he easily accepted a one-shot answer, and moved toward pressing Hasebe and Crane. Marukunaga raised his chin: "Let's continue talking—just now, the time-traveling army took Mr. Matsunaga away."
Hasebe nodded silently.Tsurumaru Kuninaga corrected his sitting posture, and said briskly: "Yes——according to Hasebe's thinking, there is absolutely no need for the time-traveling army to"stuck in a Matsunaga Hideo from later generations'. This approach is too uncertain, and it is not the consistent style of action of the Time Retrospective Army."
The main problem here is that the time-traveling army cannot guarantee that the person who replaces Matsunaga Hideo can really become Matsunaga Hideo-although in terms of results, the underworld brother from the Heisei era has acted as "Matsunaga Hideo" brilliantly. ", but before coming to this era, he must have his own name.
It's as if Saito Dozo's name before time travel was actually "Nagai Shinichi".
Changing the name is not as simple as throwing a note with the name on it at random, or forcing the other party to admit the name.There are not many characters with the ability to communicate in the time-traveling army. To let a person from later generations who have no connection with people of this era change his name and surname to live in troubled times as they wish, the operation is too delicate and requires The manpower and material resources consumed are not what the covert time retrograde army can afford.Most members of the Time Retrograde Army are just puppets who are numb and obey orders, and this characteristic determines that they cannot achieve such a result.The time-traveling army may take some measures because of the predicament of "stealing" a Matsunaga show that has not shaken the foundation of the world, and being prosecuted for such a bold behavior, so they should pay more attention, but these methods are definitely not "Put back a substitute" is so gross.
The time retrograde army does not need to "stuff Matsunaga Hideo from later generations" at all!
"That's why I say it's not at all—"
"However, how does Hasebe know that what I'm talking about dragging the 'people of later generations' to this era to play the role of 'Matsunaga Hideo' is the time-traveling army," Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "I'm just talking about time-traveling The army took away 'Takenaka Hanbei', and may also take away 'Matsunaga Hideo of this era'. If there is anything that can insert a substitute for this era and ensure that it develops like 'history', then There is only one—”
"That is, the world itself."
Hasebe was dumbfounded for a while, and he even didn't quite understand Tsurumaru Kuninaga's thinking circuit - but after all, Tsurumaru Kuninaga's logic was clear and clear. After a short thought, he could vaguely understand Tsurumaru Kuninaga's meaning , For a moment, I don’t know whether to say that Tsurumaru Kuninaga is too bold to even think about this; String them together to forcibly piece together an answer.
Regardless of whether the answer is right or wrong, his courage and thinking ability are really too good.
"I see—you mean, there are two self-rescue systems in this world, right?"
In the end, that's all Hasebe could say.
Afterwards, Tsurumaru Kuninaga nodded in front of him.
If you really want to analyze it from the perspective of Tsurumaru Kuninaga, everything is a huge puzzle that seems to be endless.But if one by one corresponds to each other from the conclusions he has already obtained, it will be much easier to understand.
First of all, this world-whether it is the swordsman or the time-traveling army, its activities will cause damage to this world.The world here is not a narrow concept like "Earth", but a huge...existence that includes time and space, past and future.Once the activities of the Sword Man and the Time Traveling Army are too frequent or the actions are too large, and the damage caused touches the bottom line of the world, the world will start to save itself-that is, dispatch "inspection officers" to deal with the Sword Man and the Time Traveling Army Attack until the damage is remedied (for example, Saburo refuses to believe that Mitsuhide Akechi is behind the Honnoji Incident, and the possibility of changing history is reduced) or the injurer is eliminated (for example, the time-traveling army present was killed for illegal purposes) .
This is why the time-traveling army and the sword men have been consciously avoiding non-violation.After all, they are engaged in fighting and other activities in this world itself, which means that they cannot hide their location. He fell to the side of the inspection and violation envoy.
Checking non-violation is the means for the world to save itself.
What Tsurumaru Kuninaga means is that the world actually has a second set of self-help means-after events such as "the Matsunaga Hideo of this era is taken away", drag the "replacement Matsunaga Hideo" from later generations To this era, to maintain history continues.Because of the action led by the world, it can create countless coincidences to promote the development of "name change" and other things. It can also be screened in advance to choose the most suitable character and temperament to become "Matsunaga Hideo" people!
After the men of swords and swords have removed the "history" instilled in them by the government of the time, their own memories are actually still closely related to this world.Even though they became Fusangshen through catalysis, the existence of the world transcends time and causality. Therefore, if the "real Matsunaga Hideo" is replaced by "Matsunaga Hideo after time travel", whether it is them or the Government of Time Or the "history" that the government of Time wants to maintain, everything about Matsunaga Hideo will change from the former to the latter, and... seamlessly.
Except for the person who hijacked "The Real Matsunaga Hideo", I'm afraid no one will notice that it has been replaced!Because this is not simply picking out a certain character in memory and inserting it into another, but it has changed since the beginning of everything. ", and now become Fu Sangshen's "Song Yongxiu" encountered in returning to history, all of whom Saburo is familiar with, the gangster brother who traveled from the Heisei era to the Warring States period.
He is "Hide Matsunaga in history"!No one can change this fact except the world itself!
"Is the world so easy to be invaded?" Hasebe said in disbelief, "Even if the world itself does not necessarily have self-awareness, it is impossible to be robbed of 'important historical figures' several times."
"But Kiyomitsu and the others also said," Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "'The world line has collapsed'."
"... How many years ago this happened! Why do you still remember it so clearly!"
"Oh, because I care about it, I wrote it down quietly. Don't look at me like this, I am also the type who will write down the things that I think should be paid attention to in the notebook." Tanibe blinked playfully, "Anyway, what about the world line is none of our business right now. Anyway, everything I said is just speculation, right, Hasebe"
Hasebe, who insisted on taking facts as the basis and evidence as the requirement all the year round, was stuck speechless by Tsurumaru Kuninaga's rhetorical question, could only cough a few times, and changed the subject forcefully: "... The first thing you said was about Takenaka Hanbei, right?"
"Ah. That's right. Although we are currently in this era, all we can do is what happens at this time. However, whether it is the government of time or the time-traveling army, they are actually not restricted by the era. Therefore, Mr. Takenaka was Taking away shouldn’t be an exception.” The first issue tolerantly followed Hasebe’s words and said, “The time retrograde army should also use two methods of plundering ‘historical figures’ at the same time. One is to take the living Take away historical figures—such as Matsunaga Hideo, but the world will start to save itself, so it may easily attract the attention of non-violators, and there may be certain restrictions that cannot be used frequently. The other is to take away dead Historical figures—such as Mr. Takenaka, this kind of person will not attract the wrongdoing, but in the same way, there are quite few things that a dead person can do. The talent of spiritual power determines everything from the beginning... However, Mr. Takenaka's most admirable thing is not force, but resourcefulness."
"That is to say, the time-traveling army has been looking for a military advisor for itself—no, if it finds a 'historical figure' full of spiritual power, it may just add a 'general' directly. The mood and obsession of historical figures who want to change history Compared with the people of later generations, it will be much stronger." Yaki Hasebe concluded.
"Yes, so I also want to report this matter to the lord this time." Tsurumaru Kuninaga asked Saburo, "In addition to these, the time retrograde army is too obvious for you. It can already be guessed that the time The retrograde army should be led by a specific 'person', I want to ask you, do you have any dead enemies with extraordinary minds who are immortal"
Saburo struggled to break free from the daze, and after two seconds of serious thinking, he replied: "...Takeda Shingen"
"..."
"Kenshin Uesugi"
"..."
"Nagamasa Asai, Yoshikage Asakura, believers of the Ichimon sect, Yoshiaki Ashikaga...ah, Yoshiaki Ashikaga doesn't seem to be dead yet."
"...These you are talking about are people who only appeared after the time retrograde army appeared."
"Since the time-traveling army can span time, it doesn't make any difference whether the time when the enemy appears is now or before." Feng Qingyun said something quite reasonable, and Saburo continued to think seriously, "Then... trustworthy"
"...Then it seems that you don't have any clues here." Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "I will try my best to investigate for you."
Well, because I received a long comment yesterday, I plan to double update. This is the anti-theft chapter of the second update.It will be replaced at noon or afternoon tomorrow.
Luoshan High School is the prototype I saw. Luonan High School seems to have an attached high school, and there is a private one and a junior high school here.
There is a saying in history that Guidie and Guangxiu are cousins, but the authenticity is doubtful.
——Extra 2 has been replaced.
After all, it’s useless to say it. With Saburo’s character, can the sword man still expect to get any advice from Saburo!
Don't think about it, the entire Oda family doesn't have this kind of treatment.If Saburo doesn't speak, it's all right, once he speaks, it's already a decision!
In short, the sword man has always been getting along with Saburo in this way, and so far there has been no problem...except that the argument was too fierce just now, which caused the scene to be suddenly embarrassed by Saburo's casual question.
The creator of the embarrassment didn't know what was wrong with what he just said, but simply and confidently waited for the answer from the Sword Fusangshen.After a brief silence, Yiqi Yizhen replied with a polite smile: "It's been a while since I discovered it, and I thought I'd report to you when I had a conclusion."
Fortunately, Saburo was just asking casually at first, and didn't intend to delve into anything (has Saburo really delved into anything), so he easily accepted a one-shot answer, and moved toward pressing Hasebe and Crane. Marukunaga raised his chin: "Let's continue talking—just now, the time-traveling army took Mr. Matsunaga away."
Hasebe nodded silently.Tsurumaru Kuninaga corrected his sitting posture, and said briskly: "Yes——according to Hasebe's thinking, there is absolutely no need for the time-traveling army to"stuck in a Matsunaga Hideo from later generations'. This approach is too uncertain, and it is not the consistent style of action of the Time Retrospective Army."
The main problem here is that the time-traveling army cannot guarantee that the person who replaces Matsunaga Hideo can really become Matsunaga Hideo-although in terms of results, the underworld brother from the Heisei era has acted as "Matsunaga Hideo" brilliantly. ", but before coming to this era, he must have his own name.
It's as if Saito Dozo's name before time travel was actually "Nagai Shinichi".
Changing the name is not as simple as throwing a note with the name on it at random, or forcing the other party to admit the name.There are not many characters with the ability to communicate in the time-traveling army. To let a person from later generations who have no connection with people of this era change his name and surname to live in troubled times as they wish, the operation is too delicate and requires The manpower and material resources consumed are not what the covert time retrograde army can afford.Most members of the Time Retrograde Army are just puppets who are numb and obey orders, and this characteristic determines that they cannot achieve such a result.The time-traveling army may take some measures because of the predicament of "stealing" a Matsunaga show that has not shaken the foundation of the world, and being prosecuted for such a bold behavior, so they should pay more attention, but these methods are definitely not "Put back a substitute" is so gross.
The time retrograde army does not need to "stuff Matsunaga Hideo from later generations" at all!
"That's why I say it's not at all—"
"However, how does Hasebe know that what I'm talking about dragging the 'people of later generations' to this era to play the role of 'Matsunaga Hideo' is the time-traveling army," Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "I'm just talking about time-traveling The army took away 'Takenaka Hanbei', and may also take away 'Matsunaga Hideo of this era'. If there is anything that can insert a substitute for this era and ensure that it develops like 'history', then There is only one—”
"That is, the world itself."
Hasebe was dumbfounded for a while, and he even didn't quite understand Tsurumaru Kuninaga's thinking circuit - but after all, Tsurumaru Kuninaga's logic was clear and clear. After a short thought, he could vaguely understand Tsurumaru Kuninaga's meaning , For a moment, I don’t know whether to say that Tsurumaru Kuninaga is too bold to even think about this; String them together to forcibly piece together an answer.
Regardless of whether the answer is right or wrong, his courage and thinking ability are really too good.
"I see—you mean, there are two self-rescue systems in this world, right?"
In the end, that's all Hasebe could say.
Afterwards, Tsurumaru Kuninaga nodded in front of him.
If you really want to analyze it from the perspective of Tsurumaru Kuninaga, everything is a huge puzzle that seems to be endless.But if one by one corresponds to each other from the conclusions he has already obtained, it will be much easier to understand.
First of all, this world-whether it is the swordsman or the time-traveling army, its activities will cause damage to this world.The world here is not a narrow concept like "Earth", but a huge...existence that includes time and space, past and future.Once the activities of the Sword Man and the Time Traveling Army are too frequent or the actions are too large, and the damage caused touches the bottom line of the world, the world will start to save itself-that is, dispatch "inspection officers" to deal with the Sword Man and the Time Traveling Army Attack until the damage is remedied (for example, Saburo refuses to believe that Mitsuhide Akechi is behind the Honnoji Incident, and the possibility of changing history is reduced) or the injurer is eliminated (for example, the time-traveling army present was killed for illegal purposes) .
This is why the time-traveling army and the sword men have been consciously avoiding non-violation.After all, they are engaged in fighting and other activities in this world itself, which means that they cannot hide their location. He fell to the side of the inspection and violation envoy.
Checking non-violation is the means for the world to save itself.
What Tsurumaru Kuninaga means is that the world actually has a second set of self-help means-after events such as "the Matsunaga Hideo of this era is taken away", drag the "replacement Matsunaga Hideo" from later generations To this era, to maintain history continues.Because of the action led by the world, it can create countless coincidences to promote the development of "name change" and other things. It can also be screened in advance to choose the most suitable character and temperament to become "Matsunaga Hideo" people!
After the men of swords and swords have removed the "history" instilled in them by the government of the time, their own memories are actually still closely related to this world.Even though they became Fusangshen through catalysis, the existence of the world transcends time and causality. Therefore, if the "real Matsunaga Hideo" is replaced by "Matsunaga Hideo after time travel", whether it is them or the Government of Time Or the "history" that the government of Time wants to maintain, everything about Matsunaga Hideo will change from the former to the latter, and... seamlessly.
Except for the person who hijacked "The Real Matsunaga Hideo", I'm afraid no one will notice that it has been replaced!Because this is not simply picking out a certain character in memory and inserting it into another, but it has changed since the beginning of everything. ", and now become Fu Sangshen's "Song Yongxiu" encountered in returning to history, all of whom Saburo is familiar with, the gangster brother who traveled from the Heisei era to the Warring States period.
He is "Hide Matsunaga in history"!No one can change this fact except the world itself!
"Is the world so easy to be invaded?" Hasebe said in disbelief, "Even if the world itself does not necessarily have self-awareness, it is impossible to be robbed of 'important historical figures' several times."
"But Kiyomitsu and the others also said," Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "'The world line has collapsed'."
"... How many years ago this happened! Why do you still remember it so clearly!"
"Oh, because I care about it, I wrote it down quietly. Don't look at me like this, I am also the type who will write down the things that I think should be paid attention to in the notebook." Tanibe blinked playfully, "Anyway, what about the world line is none of our business right now. Anyway, everything I said is just speculation, right, Hasebe"
Hasebe, who insisted on taking facts as the basis and evidence as the requirement all the year round, was stuck speechless by Tsurumaru Kuninaga's rhetorical question, could only cough a few times, and changed the subject forcefully: "... The first thing you said was about Takenaka Hanbei, right?"
"Ah. That's right. Although we are currently in this era, all we can do is what happens at this time. However, whether it is the government of time or the time-traveling army, they are actually not restricted by the era. Therefore, Mr. Takenaka was Taking away shouldn’t be an exception.” The first issue tolerantly followed Hasebe’s words and said, “The time retrograde army should also use two methods of plundering ‘historical figures’ at the same time. One is to take the living Take away historical figures—such as Matsunaga Hideo, but the world will start to save itself, so it may easily attract the attention of non-violators, and there may be certain restrictions that cannot be used frequently. The other is to take away dead Historical figures—such as Mr. Takenaka, this kind of person will not attract the wrongdoing, but in the same way, there are quite few things that a dead person can do. The talent of spiritual power determines everything from the beginning... However, Mr. Takenaka's most admirable thing is not force, but resourcefulness."
"That is to say, the time-traveling army has been looking for a military advisor for itself—no, if it finds a 'historical figure' full of spiritual power, it may just add a 'general' directly. The mood and obsession of historical figures who want to change history Compared with the people of later generations, it will be much stronger." Yaki Hasebe concluded.
"Yes, so I also want to report this matter to the lord this time." Tsurumaru Kuninaga asked Saburo, "In addition to these, the time retrograde army is too obvious for you. It can already be guessed that the time The retrograde army should be led by a specific 'person', I want to ask you, do you have any dead enemies with extraordinary minds who are immortal"
Saburo struggled to break free from the daze, and after two seconds of serious thinking, he replied: "...Takeda Shingen"
"..."
"Kenshin Uesugi"
"..."
"Nagamasa Asai, Yoshikage Asakura, believers of the Ichimon sect, Yoshiaki Ashikaga...ah, Yoshiaki Ashikaga doesn't seem to be dead yet."
"...These you are talking about are people who only appeared after the time retrograde army appeared."
"Since the time-traveling army can span time, it doesn't make any difference whether the time when the enemy appears is now or before." Feng Qingyun said something quite reasonable, and Saburo continued to think seriously, "Then... trustworthy"
"...Then it seems that you don't have any clues here." Tsurumaru Kuninaga said, "I will try my best to investigate for you."
Well, because I received a long comment yesterday, I plan to double update. This is the anti-theft chapter of the second update.It will be replaced at noon or afternoon tomorrow.
Luoshan High School is the prototype I saw. Luonan High School seems to have an attached high school, and there is a private one and a junior high school here.
There is a saying in history that Guidie and Guangxiu are cousins, but the authenticity is doubtful.
——Extra 2 has been replaced.
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