In the Spring and Autumn and Warring States without women

Xia Yu is the chief culprit for the demise of the Yan Dynasty!

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0214 34:[-]

In fact, if we look at Xia Yu, his life can be said to be very legendary, but if Xia Yu is considered in terms of the overall historical background, his role is actually very bad. It can even be said that Xia Yu is the leader of Yan Dynasty. The culprit of perdition!

The entire history of the Spring and Autumn and the Warring States, from a broad perspective, is a trend from the family world to a monarch and scholar-bureaucrats ruling the world together. It is a general trend that foreign ministers enter the court to replace the inner lord in power, and Xia Yu used an inner lord to govern. It would be a big historical retrogression in itself to be in charge of the government with the identity of Xia Yu. If Xia Yu is incapable of doing it, it's fine, but he is still very capable, which is even worse!

It is because of Xia Yu that it has become a tradition for the main government in Yan's country, which indirectly promoted the interests of the foreign relatives in the Yan Dynasty. Soon after the Yan Dynasty unified the world, it perished. I have to say bad things about the foreign relatives is a big factor.

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1楼：唱唱发表时间：2015-01-0214：39

sofa.

See also headline party, boring, posting.

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2楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0214：41

Seeing the sensationalist again, the demise of the Yan Dynasty has a shitty relationship with Xia Yu, which can all be tied together. The demise of the Yan Dynasty is due to the fact that the first emperor wasted too much power on the people.

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Reply to the 2nd floor: Flying Promise

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0214 47:[-]

Seeing the guy who sprays shit again, does your mouth grow behind your ass?It's so ugly!

Do you dare to say that the demise of the Yan Dynasty has little to do with foreign relatives?If it wasn't for the foreign relatives at that time intervening to abolish the crown prince and kill the Qi people, the Yan Dynasty would not have perished so quickly!

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3楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0214：54

You are just spraying dung, the demise of the Yan Dynasty was related to the relatives, but the involvement of relatives in politics was not unique to the Yan Dynasty. Didn’t relatives participate in politics in the later Western Han Dynasty?Han Dan is still a relative, if there is no Han Dan, then would there still be the saying "If you commit a strong man against me, you will be punished even if you are far away!"There have been foreign relatives in all dynasties, can you attribute this to Xia Yu?It's just preposterous!

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4楼：938gudhiu发表时间：2015-01-0214：58

Haha, it's arguing again, as long as each post exceeds three sentences, it's not arguing.

But having said that, I also think the landlord's point of view is a bit biased.

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Reply to the 3nd floor: Flying Promise

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 01:[-]

Do you think it is right for foreign relatives to intervene in politics?

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5楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0213：05

I'm not saying that it's right for foreign relatives to interfere in politics, I'm just saying that Xia Yu's reform has played a very important role in the prosperity of Yan State. There are some things that happened in the Han Dynasty too. Xia Yu cannot be responsible for what happened in the Yan Dynasty after that. It happened many years after his death. If we can’t get together, we can’t go together!

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6楼：少年游发表时间：2015-01-0213：07

Xia Yu's fans have entered indiscriminately, the landlord will die!

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7楼：蹲着发表时间：2015-01-0213：08

Wow, another post about opening Xia Yu, probably related to the recent hit TV series, but then again, I saw news a while ago that the Mausoleum of the First Emperor was about to open, is it true or not?

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8楼：少年游发表时间：2015-01-0213：09

False, the rumor has been debunked.

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Reply to the 6th floor: Youth Tour

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 10:[-]

Brainless, get out!

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9楼：少年游发表时间：2015-01-0213：11

You're the one with the brain damage, your whole family is the brain damage!

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10楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0213：12

Touch the "Youth Tour", don't bother with the host, that guy is a wretched guy, he probably has no skills and can't get dizzy, he looks ugly, no one wants to give birth to a child.

I am also a fan of Xia Yu. I used to be a fan of history, and I was silently cute. Now that the TV series is on the air, I have a lot of like-minded friends all of a sudden, so happy.

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Reply to the 10nd floor: Flying Promise

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 14:[-]

My annual salary is hundreds of thousands, and I can’t spend all the flowers. Haha, really, you should go home and look in the mirror to see your wretched appearance. The Chinese are people like you who are looked down upon when there are too many people.

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11楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0213：15

Damn, it turns out that the host is not just a wretched man, but also a well-known public figure!Ha, Chinese people look down on people, are you Chinese! ?Play shit!It doesn't matter whether the Chinese people look down on you, anyway, I look down on you very much ------------------------------ --------------------------------

12楼：diyi22发表时间：2015-01-0213：16

People who only watched TV dramas messed in, how did Xia Yu die?There is no explanation in the TV series, it seems to be an open ending!

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Reply to the 12nd floor: Flying Promise

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 17:[-]

Killed by King Yan.

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13楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0213：18

The landlord speaks without thinking, and the mouth is Xia Yu who was killed by King Yan. What is the evidence?It is clearly recorded in the history books that Xia Yu's health was very bad before she died. You opened your mouth and it was King Yan who killed you. What is the evidence?

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Reply to the 13nd floor: Flying Promise

Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 19:[-]

History is written by the victors. King Yan killed Xia Yu, but he would not allow the official historian to record this incident in the history books. Is it difficult to change the history books to make Xia Yu die of illness?

Xia Yu and King Yan had such a fight in the later period, is it strange that King Yan killed him?

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14楼：飞翔无极发表时间：2015-01-0213：20

Your sister's history is written by the victors, you idiot, get out!

If King Yan changed the history, why didn't he also change the history of his disagreement with Xia Yu in the later period? You can check the ancient historian system and then spray shit, okay?

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15楼：朝天一棍发表时间：2015-01-0213：21

Sit and watch Xia Yu's fan fight with the public intellectual!

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16楼：呼呼哈哈哈发表时间：2015-01-0213：21

I'm afraid that there are so many historical dramas with the theme of this kind of insider recently, are you building momentum for that one?

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17楼：蹲着发表时间：2015-01-0213：22

I said the dear on the 16th floor, be careful, talk about history, don't talk about reality, don't you know that the "Press Fairness Act" just came out?The crackdown on the Internet has just passed, everyone be careful.

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Original poster: Tomatoes who love to eat fruits Release time: 2015-01-0213 23:[-]

The Chinese are like this. Now it is the "Press Fairness Law", and in the future, people will not be allowed to speak directly. There is no freedom of speech or freedom of the press. They are like a dog, and they are still complacent.

I won't play with you anymore, bye bye.

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18楼：查理发表时间：2015-01-0213：25

Just to cut in, I actually think that if Xia Yu is as beautiful as the actors in the TV series, if I were the King of Yan, I would be willing to give him all the country, let alone take care of the government.

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19楼：蹲着发表时间：2015-01-0213：27

This landlord's public knowledge emphasizes too much, it's too disgusting, stop playing, and post.

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[-]. Xia Yu

Haha, I don’t think it’s too much to put Xia Yu first in this inventory, because he is the first master in the history with detailed records. There may be many before or in the early Western Zhou Dynasty. The inner lord is very good, but I still think that looking at the entire pre-Qin era, Xia Yu as the inner lord or as a courtier is also worthy of being one of the top figures of that era.

It can be said that without Xia Yu's reforms in Yan State, Yan State could not have risen so quickly. Without Xia Yu's original national policy of annexing the Northeast, Yan State could not have accumulated the capital of the same world. It's not Xia Yu, maybe the land in the northeast will be under the control of our Chinese nation, and I don't know how many years it will be at night.

I won’t talk about Xia Yu’s political reform in Yan State. It’s in the textbooks, and everyone has learned it. Let’s talk about other aspects of Xia Yu.

I think Xia Yu has insight beyond the times:

1. Understanding of Huaxia.

I have read "Historical Records", Xia Yu's passage on the feudalism of the Western Zhou Dynasty about Yan Jun's convincing people, really has a vision that transcends the times. To be honest, I think we Chinese are pretty bad. This passage of Xia Yu's words was not included in the textbook. I only saw it when I grew up and looked through historical materials. Before that, I always thought that we, as a farming nation, were actually kind-hearted and never expanded to the outside world. But after reading Xia Yu’s discussion, I realized that we are actually Started with colonialism.

Well, I won't say much about this, there are too many human rights fighters, we don't want to cause trouble.

2. Awareness of the key to ending the chaos in the world.

When other people are still shouting to respect the king and fight against barbarians, he can see that the key to ending the turmoil in the world is to unify the world. This seems natural to us modern people, but it was shocking at the time. I really don’t know how he came up with it , to be honest, many people say that the unification of China is inevitable in history, but I really doubt that if Xia Yu hadn't put forward the theory of unifying the world, would China have taken another path, such as the loose alliance in Europe situation.

3. For commercial use.

When Guan Zhong assisted Duke Huan of Qi to rule hegemony, he played with commercial methods very well (PS: Think of those brick houses in China who say they don’t need to grow food or buy food, and instantly feel that brick houses are scumbags), Xia Yu was originally from Qi, Later, he was unlucky in the country of Yan. He made those commercial reforms in the country of Yan, and later ran on the country of Qi, which was originally the most commercially savvy country in the world. , the Spring and Autumn Period is really a healthier and more prosperous era.

4. Raise war to the realm of art.

The thirteen chapters of "Xiazi's Art of War" can be learned by the American West Point Military Academy. There are many generals who have been able to fight since ancient times, but it is really not for ordinary people to be able to sum up the war so brilliantly.

To sum up, I think that without Xia Yu, Chinese history may be rewritten, and we may take a different path.

[-]. Han Dan

I think it's a bit strange to include him. After all, Han Dan has never been regarded as the inner master, but should be regarded as a foreign minister, or a foreign relative, but his relationship with that Emperor Zhaowu is not written in the official history (some people think it may be written) But it was deleted by Emperor Zhaowu), but there are records in the unofficial history and the family histories of many ministers at that time.

I think, compared with Xia Yu, Han Dan does not seem to have any dazzling brilliance in governing politics, but if we look at the historical records, it is the part where he fought the Southwestern Yi. He persuaded Emperor Zhaowu not to fight on two fronts, and he Many of the talents recommended are capable ministers of the Zhaowu Dynasty, so I think his contribution to the Zhaowu Dynasty should not only be military.

However, I am not engaged in historical research. For me, what I love the most about Han Dan is because of his existence. Losing the battle is enough for me to love him for the rest of my life.

"If you commit a strong man against me, you will be punished even if you are far away!"

What Emperor Zhaowu relied on to say this is that Han Dan has always been able to win!

For this sentence, I want to say, General Han, I love you.

[-]. Chu Rongfei

This, amazing, a literati, a civil servant, without him, the Song Dynasty is over, where did the servants fight back then?

Yangtze River!

What kind of virtue was the Song Dynasty at that time, and it was forced to be moved back by Chu Yunfei. The Northern Expedition was successful in history, and there were only a few times when the Northern Expedition was successful. Chu Yunfei was able to succeed in the Northern Expedition!

Counting the whole world at that time, which one was not beaten by the blocked servants, only here in China, we beat back and killed a Khan!

Tuogu Zhichen can do his part, and he can still die well by spanking the emperor's buttocks. There is no one before or after!

It seems unreasonable to include him in the ranks of internal masters, because this, like General Han, has always been a foreign minister. However, the Song Dynasty is closer to our era, and there are many materials left behind. We've all seen it, haha, he and his King Xuan are quite funny too.

[-]. Zhang Yukun

He didn't say anything, and he couldn't say enough admiration for this man's achievements in the War of Resistance Against Japan.

Looking at the people at that time, looking at Zhang Yukun, and looking at the present, I can only say that I am ashamed.

At present, these are summarized, and there are other candidates, welcome to make up.

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作者：公子千千时间：2014-12-1823：26：09

sofa?Support it...Follow...

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作者：公子千千时间：2014-12-1823：28：10

This is very interesting. I found that the number of posts discussing insiders has suddenly increased recently, probably because there are more TV dramas.

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作者：889调动时间：2014-12-1900：09：46

The host finally posted a new post, long time no see.

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作者：张悄悄时间：2014-12-1900：16：47

mark.I think Han Dan's part is far-fetched, and the historical records are very vague. It's a bit strange to put him in the ranks of the inner master. In addition, I think Han Gaozu's family is also very tough, but he seems to be a foreign minister. name.

Hey, the emperors of the Han Dynasty seem to like to do this kind of thing very much. Everyone knows it, but they pretend to be fake, and they can just get it right. Who do they think they can fool by making those real and fake ones!

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作者：老乐乐时间：2014-12-1900：20：37

Dancing and Flying has opened a new post!support!

Going back upstairs, I think it's normal for the emperors of the Han Dynasty to use the set of titles for foreign ministers. Impossible, my lord, go to the barracks and get in touch with people other than the emperor and eunuchs, a false accusation of adultery can kill him.

This is not only the case with the emperors of the Han Dynasty, but also with later generations. As long as they want to do something, as long as the emperor has not tried to abolish this capable minister, even if everyone in the world knows that they have adulterous affairs, they will always maintain the title of foreign minister. The same is true for King Xuan and Chu Rongfei.

Among other things, the person in our dynasty, what era is this? Everyone says that the inside and the outside are equal, regardless of inside and outside, but that person didn't hide it tightly, and only admitted it after being exposed by the media.

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作者：凶猛的未来时间：2014-12-1900：43：12

Open a new post to support the big write about the history of Rome. I haven't read that post yet. By the way, I think the people from the Three Kingdoms are also very tough.

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作者：场子不能丢on时间：2014-12-1901：23：21

Which ones in the Three Kingdoms are not counted. I have doubts about the example of Han Dan cited by the host. In addition to joking about unofficial history, there are also those Tom Su brain-dead dramas that love to come and go. How can they really put them together , is simply ridiculous.

Not every monarch has adultery with their chief ministers or ministers, okay?

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作者：修仙时间时间：2014-12-1905：47：13

Support it.

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作者：蝴蝶翩翩时间：2014-12-1906：07：28

I think, from the Han Dynasty onwards, or those in the Han Dynasty played this kind of game. Everyone in the world knew that they had adulterous affairs and they still pretended to be fake. Maybe they were frightened by the history of the Spring and Autumn and Warring States.

The landlord put Xia Yu first, this person is capable, it’s okay to say, but how he died has not yet been concluded in the academic circles, and there has always been a faction in historical research that thinks that King Yan killed Xia Yu.

A generation of capable ministers, even each of them has a clear statement on how to die.

Xia Yu doesn't count, the one from Qin, Wei Yang, is even more miserable!Yan Guo has already hit the door of his house. When Qin Guo arrived at him, he relied on him alone, but sadly, he had no son. The monarch at that time was not his own. He was working hard on the front line. To dismantle the stage, I think Wei Yang can't close his eyes even if he dies.

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作者：高山流水0826时间：2014-12-1907：53：22

Back upstairs, compared to Xia Yu, Wei Yang was too sad!

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作者：分分钟啃香蕉皮时间：2014-12-1907：58：38

Everyone has a good history!

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作者：jyhhgfhgfh时间：2014-12-1908：11：57

Whoa whoa whoa whoa! !live broadcast

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作者：jyhhgfhgfh时间：2014-12-1908：27：25

I think that no matter whether it is an internal master or a foreign minister, the matter of the bird's bow is the same. There is no need to force the distinction between the internal and the external. In that era, there were many foreign ministers who did not have good results.

As for the views of later generations on the inner room, I think it has something to do with the possessiveness of powerful people. To be honest, I am a person with a bit of an outsider plot. He doesn't have to work, I support him.

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作者：ddo时间：2014-12-1908：27：42

I really dislike the emphasis from the upstairs, but now there are many children who don’t work hard, and they seem to be looking for someone to raise them at a young age, so let’s forget about it.

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作者：拒绝整容时间：2014-12-1908：38：38

I would like to say something, I think Wei Yang is okay, at least Duke Xiao was very good when he was there, although after Duke Xiao left... Xia Yu is actually in a worse situation, I think he and King Yan are simply twisted The melons are not sweet, and Yan Wang insisted on it. In the TV series a while ago, I felt that Xia Yu and his childhood sweetheart were a bit adulterous.

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作者：888结果解决了时间：2014-12-1909：27：21

Grab the first page and leave your name

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作者：星期六时间：2014-12-1909：36：42

Ha, see the internal and external disputes again, what age is this?

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作者：下雨的秋天时间：2014-12-1909：41：05

Leave a name on the front page, Oye

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作者：kpuoiug时间：2014-12-1909：53：19

That Saturday, I guess he hasn’t worked yet. You will know when you work. Many companies are reluctant to employ such people who look ugly to work, and the boss also thinks it is ugly.

So there is no reason for the person who earns more to give up his job, it can only be sacrificed by the person who earns less.

Many people resigned when they had children, and then took a break for a year or so. If they want to come out to find a job again, they need the elderly at home to help take care of the children.

During this process, if the person in my family is dishonest and cheats, hehe.

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作者：战神123时间：2014-12-1909：55：11

In the final analysis, it is not the difference between inside and outside, but the difference between money, but this is also determined by ability, like the one who is in charge of Huanying International, his family is supported by him, without him, how can Huanying International have the current wealth, some people will look down on it He, look down on his prodigal husband more.

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作者：didi72839时间：2014-12-1909：59：57

Don't mention it upstairs, I have classmates who work in a cultural company and cooperate with Huanying International, you know them