Spark
Chapter 454 Pry open the mouth
Still can't ask?
Outside the temporary interrogation room, Jackal asked with a frown.
His teammate, the man previously known as Sparrow, shook his head and replied:
They refused to answer any questions -- no, I should say, they refused to engage in any communication.
They haven't said a word since they fell into our hands, neither during the transfer nor after entering the interrogation process.
This is the most difficult situation to deal with. They have obviously received strict training in resisting forced confessions, and they have adopted the most extreme and effective strategy, which is to act like we don't exist.
No one can pry them open. Psychology experts have tried and they won't say anything.
If this situation continues, we will have to prepare for the worst outcome. Fortunately, the chain of evidence is sufficient, and it is enough to convict them.
Upon hearing Sparrow's words, Jackal frowned and subconsciously touched his waist with his hands. This was his unconscious reaction when faced with a threat.
However, he soon discovered that the threats he faced now were no longer tangible bullets and explosives, but the unpredictable future.
In this case, using a gun will not solve the problem.
Can more extreme measures be used?
he asked.
Time is running out and we have tried everything we can, but it doesn't work.
We must consider the limits of their physical endurance. If we kill them, all our efforts will be in vain.
Obviously, they, including the organizations behind them, are also expecting us to do this.
impossible.
The jackal denied the sparrow's words without hesitation.
If they were really ready to die, then when we entered the hotel, we should have seen two corpses.
They have enough time to make a decision. But since they are not dead, it means they want to live.
Or from another perspective, it means that the organization behind them does not use the principle of 'death to keep secrets'.
It can be judged from this that they are unwilling to say, but we have not found the breakthrough point yet.
Sparrow sighed.
You are right, but the problem is that in the limited time, we simply cannot find this breakthrough point.
For such people, the things they do are obviously not motivated by some simple interests, but are driven by spiritual factors.
Whatever this factor was, it must have developed into some kind of belief.
As for a person with faith, if it's too difficult for them to talk, give up and prepare to implement the transshipment plan and send them to China.
The risk of that is huge.
Jackal was still hesitating. After a moment, he said:
Try again. At least we already have basic information about them. How about starting with their background and life experiences?
The problem is, they don't do that.
Both of their families were broken up by the economic crisis ten years ago. Paul, one of them, even witnessed the tragic death of his father.
We also tried to approach this aspect, but when we put the photos of that year and similar photos of people who died from falling buildings in front of him, his mood did not fluctuate at all.
Even the heartbeat didn't change.
It was obvious that even in this detail, he was trained.
There's a problem.
Jackal interrupted again.
If Paul will conduct special training on this matter, it means that this matter will indeed have a huge impact on him.
Isn't this a good direction? Why don't we continue to attack difficulties from this direction?
It's too late.
Sparrow said helplessly.
The CIA has already issued an inquiry to us. They are questioning why we targeted American citizens and asked us to hand over the two suspects.
The time they gave was only four hours, and now two hours have passed.
We have only three choices now - either hand the person over to them, take off immediately and fly back to China, or hold on and refuse to hand over the person, and finally escalate this matter to the level of an international dispute.
This is ridiculous.
Jackal said angrily:
The CIA clearly knows that there must be something wrong with these two people. They clearly know what we want to do, but why are they still?
It's because they knew there was something wrong with these two people that they were so eager for us to hand them over. This is very simple logic.
The reason why we use tough measures against them is because we believe that they are related to the Musk incident and the Falcon 9 incident. It happens that these two incidents harm the interests of the United States - they have nothing to do with us.
In short, even if they suspect that we are going to burn bridges across rivers or unload mills and kill donkeys, it is normal.
We have to make a decision, to fly or not to fly?
Jackal clenched his fists, and then he replied:
Get the plane ready, but let me try it again myself.
Go ahead.
Sparrow made a come in gesture and helped Jackal open the door to the interrogation room.
Entering the interrogation room, the first thing Jackal smelled was the smell of disinfectant filling the space - it was pungent, but it could not cover up the smell of blood in the interrogation room.
The young man named Paul was handcuffed to the medical bed in the center of the interrogation room. All the torture instruments had been removed. There were no scars on his body, but his expression was extremely depressed.
Still not going to say it?
Jackal asked.
He didn't expect the other party to answer, but continued to talk to himself:
I don't know what exactly you are going to do, but we can almost guess that what you want to do must be in conflict with the interests of the United States.
To be honest, I admire you for this - because when I was young, I also thought about doing such a thing, but never put it into practice.
And now, you did it, and you did it perfectly.
If it weren't for the development of computer technology and the evolution of big data analysis algorithms, we really wouldn't be able to catch you.
But since the result is already like this, why are we still stubbornly resisting?
Really, cooperate with us. We will never make it difficult for you. This is a very basic principle - we are the vested interests in the series of events you planned.
The CIA has already issued a warning to us. If you are unwilling to cooperate with us, you will have to cooperate with them.
You know what will happen if you fall into their hands. Do you need me to remind you again?
Still no answer.
Jackal even wondered if the other person was asleep, but when he looked at the other person's face, he found that the other person had his eyes wide awake and even had a smile on his face.
The CIA card is useless.
He stared closely into Paul's eyes, and the other person stared back without fear. After a long time, the Jackal finally gave up.
In those eyes, he saw determination that he had never seen from an American before.
Jackal turned and left the interrogation room, and then he said to the waiting sparrow:
Fly back to China and delay. This will be a long-term project.
“So the question now is, people are caught, but they can’t be questioned?”
In Chengdu, in the office, Chen Nian was sitting leisurely on the sofa, listening to Li Xiang's individual communication with him about the mysterious organization.
Regarding this matter, his mentality is actually more inclined to eat melon.
Compared with the attitude of officials from various countries who are facing a serious enemy, he has always been very calm.
Because deep down in his heart, he does not believe that there can be any so-called underground organization in the world that has the ability to subvert the world order.
They may cause some trouble, or they may stir up one or two waves in the advancing historical torrent, but it is impossible to reverse the overall situation.
After all, not all organizations are sparks, and not all organizations have the power to change the world.
On the opposite side, Li Xiang looked much more serious.
He sat upright in his chair. After hearing Chen Nian's question, he answered seriously:
Yes, just arresting people consumes a lot of our resources and overseas strength - let's not mention this.
The key is, judging from the current clues and evidence, these two people must be connected to the organization behind them.
Just the fact that the initiators of the two cases appeared in the same hotel is enough to explain the problem.
What's more, the security force they possess is definitely not something ordinary people can handle.
Moreover, their anti-interrogation skills are also top-notch. I even suspect that they are directly agents trained by the United States. Otherwise, why would the CIA be so eager to take people back?
In short, it is no longer possible to keep this arrest a secret. If we cannot end the interrogation in a short time, we will have to face pressure from the United States.
American pressure?
Chen Nian was slightly startled and said:
Are you still afraid of this now?
A bitter smile appeared on Li Xiang's face, and then he replied:
This is not a question of whether we are afraid or not. If it is really just pure confrontation, then of course we are not afraid.
But the problem is that this matter itself is relatively complicated. If we insist on handling it personally, we will be giving the handle into their hands.
They will definitely doubt that we are engaging in hegemony - which is very detrimental to our subsequent globalization strategy.
Who would be willing to accept that one hegemony has just been overthrown and another new hegemony has been established?
So this is the crux of the problem. It has been decided from above that if the negotiations with the United States fail, we will hand over the people to them and let them handle it on their own.
Anyway, in the final analysis, this matter will not have that big an impact on us.
All right.
Chen Nian nodded slightly and turned to ask:
So what is the background of those two people?
To put it simply, they are just two ordinary Americans.
Working in a medium-sized company, with average income, average social connections, and average family life.
Basically, they are two people who will not attract any attention - but there is one special thing, that is, both of their fathers died due to the economic crisis that started in 2006, and both committed suicide.
You should still have memories of the Wall Street jumping machine incident, right?
Paul and Jess, their father jumped on the same day, from two different high-rise buildings on Wall Street.
After that, both of them were depressed for a period of time. We were even able to find their respective psychological consultation records, but it didn't take long for them to recover.
They all completed university, and Paul even studied for a PhD in economics. We suspect this is related to his father's death, but there is no evidence.
Isn't the motive obvious?
Hearing this, Chen Nian couldn't help but ask.
Because a family member died in the economic crisis, it seems reasonable to blame the country for the misfortune and then find ways to take revenge.
Yeah, the motive is obvious.
Li Xiang spread his hands.
They are like two perfect murderers. Everyone can see their motives for killing and even determine their means of committing crimes.
But the thing is, we want more than that.
We're not just trying to convict them -- that's what the American justice system needs to do.
What we want is for them to reveal the secrets behind these incidents, and what we want is for them to reveal the organizations that provided them with training and assistance.
But obviously they weren't going to tell.
I have tried every method, but I can't pry their mouths open.
Isn't it even possible to use their father's death?
Chen Nian asked.
No, we suspect that the other party has undergone special training. They have no special reaction to this problem - the contradiction is here. If they don't care, they will not take the initiative to train.
So the key to the problem is how to use this as a breakthrough point.
We have mobilized all the well-known criminal psychology experts in the country to tackle the problem. We only hope that they can find the key to the problem in a short time.
Hearing this, Chen Nian nodded thoughtfully.
Then, he suddenly said:
I think it would be more reliable for you to find an expert in family ethics.
Why?
Li Xiang was stunned for a moment.
I don't know, this is just my intuition as an 'ordinary person'.
Obviously, family relationships will definitely be their weakness, but they may not be directly linked to 'crime.'
Moreover, it is impossible for them to think that they are committing a crime. From this point of view, isn't it wrong to ask criminal psychology experts to solve the problem?
We should try to understand their true 'emotional system', which may take some time - well, it depends on your own choice.
After all, just like you said, even if we really give up, it won't cause too much loss.
emotional system
Li Xiang pondered Chen Nian's words silently, and suddenly felt that he seemed to have caught something.
We've tried showing them pictures of their father's body after he fell to death, but they don't seem to have an emotional response to it. Speaking of which, do you have any particular thoughts?
“Don’t think too much, just go with your gut!”
Chen Nian paused for a moment, then said:
You have to put yourself in your shoes when it comes to this kind of thing. If it were me, how about you try the trick of destroying the bones and throwing away the ashes?
That's obviously not possible.
Li Xiang waved his hands repeatedly, but soon, his movements stopped.
wrong.
It won't work to set back the bones and spread the ashes, but we can try this idea.
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