After a thousand years of trading, start a million barrels of oil
Chapter 169 The middleman earns the difference
Chapter 169 The middleman earns the difference
After calling all the key members of the chip alliance together, Jiang Fan explained the problem again, and looked at everyone and said, "Do you have any good ideas on this problem?"
"They are suspected of dumping in theory, and we can solve it through judicial proceedings." Liu Weiping proposed an idea.
Meng Wanzhou nodded, and said: "There are suspicions in this regard, but they operate through subsidies, rewards, gifts, discounts, etc., and they hide it very well, so it is not so easy to judge.
So even if a lawsuit is filed, it will take a long time. By then, the momentum of our products will be suppressed. In the concept of designers, it will appear that the 5nm we produce is really not as good as their 5nm. same chip.
In this way, even if the lawsuit is won in the end and we can get compensation, including allowing them to restore the original price, the damage to our reputation has already been caused, and we have lost at least this round. "
After thinking about it, everyone, this is the problem.
"Then how about we lower the price?" Jiang Fan also put forward an idea.
Zhang Rujin waved his hand and said, "I don't think so, we just started production, and we can't compare with them in terms of cost, and the original plan was to sell at a low price.
In order to suppress us this time, they are already selling at a loss.
If we lower the price even lower than them, we will have to sell at a substantial loss. We have already invested a lot of money in the production and R&D of this period, including the construction of the factory.
We can barely support our cash flow after selling at a low price for a period of time. If we lower the price significantly, it will be completely unbearable. "
Another proposal was rejected, and Jiang Fan also proposed whether it is possible to develop foreign markets first, such as Europe. After all, their price reduction is only for the Chinese region, and the prices of other countries will not be affected. They must also consider the balance between efficiency and competition.
But undoubtedly everyone also thought of the issue that foreign companies will have lower trust and acceptance of this new China's 5-nanometer production line, so there is a high probability that Europe will still be willing to choose the more secure 5-nanometer chip of Eagle Sauce.
There seemed to be no good solution, including Jiang Fan who was also lost in thought.
After Meng Wanzhou heard the proposal to sell to Europe first, although the proposal itself was rejected, it inspired her to have another idea.
Meng Wanzhou suggested: "Who said that we can only sell our own chips to Europe?"
Jiang Fan suddenly realized something, it made sense, and everyone seemed to have vaguely thought of something.
Meng Wanzhou didn't wait for everyone to speak, and continued to add: "We also act as middlemen, earning the difference."
Siemens headquarters, Germany.
A white man with a high nose bridge looked at the man from Huaxia Zhongxin International in front of him, and said, "Mr. Chu, I can tell you the purpose of your visit this time."
The Huaxia people smiled and said, "Mr. Wagner, you know that Zhongxin International makes chips, and your Siemens appliances also need to be equipped with chips to operate. Therefore, there is a broad space for cooperation between us."
Wagner smiled: "Yes, the chip is the heart of all our electrical appliances, it is very important, and because it is so important, we need reliable and stable chips.
I heard that China has developed 5nm chips by itself. We really need such high-end chips.
But I'm sorry, although it doesn't sound good, but I still have to tell the truth, the quality of your Chinese people's work is really not flattering, and there is no rigor and seriousness in what we Germans do, including the islanders who are separated by a sea. The craftsman spirit is far behind.
Therefore, although they are all 5 nanometers, we really dare not use your low-level defective products in products for users who we regard as gods.
So I think, instead of selling here, you should go back and think about how to improve the quality of your things. "
Chu Xia was a little upset, she frowned, but she didn't get angry, and said, "Mr. Wagner, you are looking at people with old eyes. After our products leave the factory, there will be a yield test according to international standards. How do you know that we Is it a defective product?
It's like I'm facing you now, are you still the same butchers who made the killing and racial incidents back then?Of course, some countries are still, they will never repent, and they will never be forgiven.But your Prime Minister Willy Brandt's kneeling in Warsaw somewhat changed the world's view of you.
Therefore, regarding the stereotype that Huaxia only produces defective products, I think our efforts and actions of countless companies over the years should allow you to feel our changes. "
Wagner smiled a little awkwardly, obviously he was not willing to review that period of history, and said:
"Mr. Chu, I'm sorry for my recklessness. I apologize for the words just now. But what I want to say is that even if the influence of stereotypes is removed, you are still just a product that has not been tested in the actual market.
Compared with other people's very mature products, I don't think I mean to belittle you when I choose them.
Therefore, if you want us to accept your products, first let your domestic manufacturers use your products first, and let us see how it works in actual operation.
If it is really good, we are willing to accept it.
So, I'm still sorry, I'm afraid you have to make a trip today for nothing. "
Chu Xia guessed the result, but he didn't get up to leave, but looked at Wagner and said with a smile, "What if I say that what I'm here to sell today isn't our product?"
Wagner froze for a moment, not understanding what the other party was talking about, looking at Chu Xia and waiting for his further explanation.
Chu Xia picked up the cup on the table and took a sip of water, then put down the cup and said:
"What we want to sell to you is the chips produced by the manufacturers controlled by the mature and trustworthy Eagle Sauce that you have been emphasizing just now, and they are much cheaper than what they sell. Are you willing to accept it?"
"What?" Wagner didn't quite understand.
Chu Xia paused and continued: "I believe you have heard that they dumped us at a low price in China, hoping to kill our five-nanometer chips in their infancy.
But they didn't lower the price for you, and they still sell their chips at the original price. Don't you think it's unfair to pay the extra money? "
Wagner had vaguely guessed what Chu Xia was going to say, and he fell into thinking while listening.
Chu Xia strikes while the iron is hot: "So, if you borrow our hands to buy their chips, and we buy the products at a price much lower than your purchase price and then sell them to you, then the cost of both of us will be reduced. Why? Why not do it."
Wagner raised his eyebrows, and although he was still in deep thought, he was already nodding slightly.
But he still had doubts in his mind. After a while, he raised his head and asked hesitantly, "But, what about the customs duties?"
(End of this chapter)
After calling all the key members of the chip alliance together, Jiang Fan explained the problem again, and looked at everyone and said, "Do you have any good ideas on this problem?"
"They are suspected of dumping in theory, and we can solve it through judicial proceedings." Liu Weiping proposed an idea.
Meng Wanzhou nodded, and said: "There are suspicions in this regard, but they operate through subsidies, rewards, gifts, discounts, etc., and they hide it very well, so it is not so easy to judge.
So even if a lawsuit is filed, it will take a long time. By then, the momentum of our products will be suppressed. In the concept of designers, it will appear that the 5nm we produce is really not as good as their 5nm. same chip.
In this way, even if the lawsuit is won in the end and we can get compensation, including allowing them to restore the original price, the damage to our reputation has already been caused, and we have lost at least this round. "
After thinking about it, everyone, this is the problem.
"Then how about we lower the price?" Jiang Fan also put forward an idea.
Zhang Rujin waved his hand and said, "I don't think so, we just started production, and we can't compare with them in terms of cost, and the original plan was to sell at a low price.
In order to suppress us this time, they are already selling at a loss.
If we lower the price even lower than them, we will have to sell at a substantial loss. We have already invested a lot of money in the production and R&D of this period, including the construction of the factory.
We can barely support our cash flow after selling at a low price for a period of time. If we lower the price significantly, it will be completely unbearable. "
Another proposal was rejected, and Jiang Fan also proposed whether it is possible to develop foreign markets first, such as Europe. After all, their price reduction is only for the Chinese region, and the prices of other countries will not be affected. They must also consider the balance between efficiency and competition.
But undoubtedly everyone also thought of the issue that foreign companies will have lower trust and acceptance of this new China's 5-nanometer production line, so there is a high probability that Europe will still be willing to choose the more secure 5-nanometer chip of Eagle Sauce.
There seemed to be no good solution, including Jiang Fan who was also lost in thought.
After Meng Wanzhou heard the proposal to sell to Europe first, although the proposal itself was rejected, it inspired her to have another idea.
Meng Wanzhou suggested: "Who said that we can only sell our own chips to Europe?"
Jiang Fan suddenly realized something, it made sense, and everyone seemed to have vaguely thought of something.
Meng Wanzhou didn't wait for everyone to speak, and continued to add: "We also act as middlemen, earning the difference."
Siemens headquarters, Germany.
A white man with a high nose bridge looked at the man from Huaxia Zhongxin International in front of him, and said, "Mr. Chu, I can tell you the purpose of your visit this time."
The Huaxia people smiled and said, "Mr. Wagner, you know that Zhongxin International makes chips, and your Siemens appliances also need to be equipped with chips to operate. Therefore, there is a broad space for cooperation between us."
Wagner smiled: "Yes, the chip is the heart of all our electrical appliances, it is very important, and because it is so important, we need reliable and stable chips.
I heard that China has developed 5nm chips by itself. We really need such high-end chips.
But I'm sorry, although it doesn't sound good, but I still have to tell the truth, the quality of your Chinese people's work is really not flattering, and there is no rigor and seriousness in what we Germans do, including the islanders who are separated by a sea. The craftsman spirit is far behind.
Therefore, although they are all 5 nanometers, we really dare not use your low-level defective products in products for users who we regard as gods.
So I think, instead of selling here, you should go back and think about how to improve the quality of your things. "
Chu Xia was a little upset, she frowned, but she didn't get angry, and said, "Mr. Wagner, you are looking at people with old eyes. After our products leave the factory, there will be a yield test according to international standards. How do you know that we Is it a defective product?
It's like I'm facing you now, are you still the same butchers who made the killing and racial incidents back then?Of course, some countries are still, they will never repent, and they will never be forgiven.But your Prime Minister Willy Brandt's kneeling in Warsaw somewhat changed the world's view of you.
Therefore, regarding the stereotype that Huaxia only produces defective products, I think our efforts and actions of countless companies over the years should allow you to feel our changes. "
Wagner smiled a little awkwardly, obviously he was not willing to review that period of history, and said:
"Mr. Chu, I'm sorry for my recklessness. I apologize for the words just now. But what I want to say is that even if the influence of stereotypes is removed, you are still just a product that has not been tested in the actual market.
Compared with other people's very mature products, I don't think I mean to belittle you when I choose them.
Therefore, if you want us to accept your products, first let your domestic manufacturers use your products first, and let us see how it works in actual operation.
If it is really good, we are willing to accept it.
So, I'm still sorry, I'm afraid you have to make a trip today for nothing. "
Chu Xia guessed the result, but he didn't get up to leave, but looked at Wagner and said with a smile, "What if I say that what I'm here to sell today isn't our product?"
Wagner froze for a moment, not understanding what the other party was talking about, looking at Chu Xia and waiting for his further explanation.
Chu Xia picked up the cup on the table and took a sip of water, then put down the cup and said:
"What we want to sell to you is the chips produced by the manufacturers controlled by the mature and trustworthy Eagle Sauce that you have been emphasizing just now, and they are much cheaper than what they sell. Are you willing to accept it?"
"What?" Wagner didn't quite understand.
Chu Xia paused and continued: "I believe you have heard that they dumped us at a low price in China, hoping to kill our five-nanometer chips in their infancy.
But they didn't lower the price for you, and they still sell their chips at the original price. Don't you think it's unfair to pay the extra money? "
Wagner had vaguely guessed what Chu Xia was going to say, and he fell into thinking while listening.
Chu Xia strikes while the iron is hot: "So, if you borrow our hands to buy their chips, and we buy the products at a price much lower than your purchase price and then sell them to you, then the cost of both of us will be reduced. Why? Why not do it."
Wagner raised his eyebrows, and although he was still in deep thought, he was already nodding slightly.
But he still had doubts in his mind. After a while, he raised his head and asked hesitantly, "But, what about the customs duties?"
(End of this chapter)
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