Chapter 1321

For the Soviets’ price reduction, Xie Kai did not buy it.

It was clear to the Soviets that China did not need their RD-33 engine production technology and production equipment.

The Soviets really couldn’t do it anymore. At this moment, for more money, even the engine technology is willing to sell.

“Gentlemen, we don’t need your engine production technology. I don’t think there is any need to talk about this. If we need technology, we will definitely negotiate with Westerners. After all, we have introduced a full set of Bass engine technology from the UK before. , Are all NATO standards…”

Xie Kai’s words made the faces of the Soviets extremely embarrassing.

Hasn’t China always liked to ask for technology?

Why doesn’t it work this time.



During the entire negotiation process, except for Xie Kai, almost everyone from the Chinese side rarely spoke.

Bai Yanjun and Ge Minglang also said a few words just now when they assisted, and now they are silent again.

People from the Ministry of Aviation Industry, AVIC, and Factory 112 cannot intervene in the negotiations in this regard. After all, this has nothing to do with them.

Hongqi Machinery Group has import and export licenses granted by superiors. Whether it is technology import or export or complete equipment import and export, you only need to report to superiors to directly trade, not to mention that they retain part of the foreign exchange quota in their own hands. This condition is AVIC technology is incomparable.

What surprised them even more was that in the entire negotiation process, the 404 aspect, even the information, was not prepared at all.

The Soviets didn’t let up on the price after reaching 2 million U.S. dollars.

When there was no alternative, Xie Kai eventually raised the price to 1.7 million US dollars per unit in order to prevent the negotiation from reaching a deadlock. Even so, the Soviets still did not let go.

Killed 2 million dollars a unit.

Xie Kai was helpless.

“In that case, let’s talk about the K-36D ejection seat developed and produced by your country’s Red Star Manufacturing Company.” The Soviets don’t let go, and it doesn’t make much sense to continue the discussion.

In terms of engine prices, the Soviets killed 2 million US dollars per engine. Although Xie Kai was willing to bear a higher price than this before, the Soviets’ prices are already lower than Xie Kai’s prices. Naturally, Unwilling to pay another $2 million per unit price.

According to the reaction of the Soviets, prices can be further reduced.

Even if an engine is as low as $50,000, it is a pure profit growth for the 404.

When it is impossible to talk about it, it is better to talk about other cooperation.

The K-36D ejection seat was advertised with expensive MiG-29 fighters this time. At the moment of the crash, the seat was successfully ejected, and a successful advertisement was vividly made in front of audiences all over the world.

Even the more expensive ejection seats used on the American F-16 did not allow American pilots to eject to protect their lives.

Hearing Xie Kai’s words, Alex Fedelov’s face was extremely ugly.

It’s completely revealing their scars, but there is no way to refute it.

The MiG-29 did crash at the air show, and the pilot successfully ejected.

“With regard to the ejection seat, there is not much room for negotiation. As long as the price is right and can meet the quotations of the relevant production units, there will be no obstacles in the country.” Misavichowski said with a gloomy face.

The K-36D engine ejection seat is not too secret for the Soviet Union.

The Red Star Design Bureau had a difficult time, especially when the number of orders for the production of domestic fighter jets in the Soviet Union dropped sharply.

Many countries do not have high requirements for aerial ejection seats, and countries that lack funding are unwilling to spend higher costs to equip high-cost excellent ejection seats.

“Perhaps, we can talk about Su-27’s cooperation.” We have to find something to do.

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Hearing Xie Kai talk about the cooperation of Su-27, Zhao Yujun and others also came to their spirits.

What Xie Kai talked to the Soviets before, although it was also related to fighters, had nothing to do with the 112 factory. The super-7 technology, 404 is impossible to come out.

Xie Kai’s negotiating style with the Soviets did not conform to the usual regular negotiations of units such as AVIC.

When AVIC and the Ministry of Aviation Industry usually introduce technology and equipment, negotiations are protracted.

Both parties will fight for their own interests, even if it is tens of dollars, they will argue for a long time, not to mention that there are other additional conditions.

Xie Kai talked to the Soviets that this kid was willing to give the price. From the very beginning, the price went up by hundreds of thousands of dollars in a short period of time.

For the Ministry of Aviation and AVIC, there is absolutely no way to learn or imitate them.

They did not expect that Xie Kai wanted to talk about the Su-27, but the Soviets were not in a hurry. They demanded that they first negotiate the cooperation with the RD-33 engine, and then talk about the export of the Su-27 fighter.

Even Sukhoi’s people were not anxious about this matter.

This surprised Xie Kai. The Soviets were unwilling to make concessions in terms of prices, and Xie Kai did not hesitate. If the talks continue, there will be no progress.

It’s impossible not to talk about it.

Simply, Xie Kai proposed another cooperation plan to the Soviets.

“Gentlemen, we can consider another mode of cooperation.”

When the Soviets saw Xie Kai talking about another mode of cooperation, they looked at him with a look of confusion. They didn’t know what other constructive proposal this kid could offer.

Xie Kai said to the Soviets: “Gentlemen, everyone knows that China has received a lot of orders this time. Our domestic aviation technology is weak and our industrial foundation is poor. Even if all domestic aviation manufacturing companies are united, it will be difficult to complete them in a short time. These orders. Perhaps we can cooperate in the production process.”

As soon as Xie Kai said this, Zhao Yujun of the 112 factory became anxious.

This kid wants to move the domestic joint production model to cooperation with the Soviet Union.

With the huge manufacturing power of the Soviet Union, domestic factories will lose many production orders. Even the 112 factory could not compete with the Soviet fighter production factory.

It’s useless to be anxious, Zhao Yujun can’t stop him, so he can only look at Zhao Zheng for help.

Zhao Zheng didn’t know exactly how Xie Kai would cooperate, so naturally he couldn’t object to it at the moment.

Xie Kai’s proposal made both Misavsky and Alexei interested, looking at him expectantly, wanting to hear about the specific cooperation plan.

“Super-7A and Super-7B are both foreign trade fighters developed and designed by us. This fighter has now gained a good reputation in the world and has a great market prospect. Both of us can fully produce jointly.”

Alexei Federov asked eagerly, “How to combine production?”

As the general manager of the MiG manufacturing plant, he naturally hopes that the MiG manufacturing plant will have more orders.

Sufficient orders can bring a higher operating rate and feed a huge factory.

Whether talking about the engine or the ejection seat, there will not be much benefit for the MiG manufacturing plant. I was thinking about how to get the Chinese to give more orders in cooperation with China. If you don’t export MiG-29 fighters, you can also have other cooperation.

In any case, the Soviets did not think about it as a foundry to help China produce various fighter parts.

After Xie Kai proposed, the Soviets were silent.

Xie Kai said to the Soviets: “Super-7A, whether in terms of materials or other key parts production, our domestic production capacity cannot keep up due to weak manufacturing capabilities. The production capacity of the Soviet Union is obvious to all around the world. In this regard It is completely possible to cooperate. You can provide various parts and accessories as required, and finally realize joint production and achieve a win-win situation…”

Xie Kai’s idea is very clear, to turn some factories in the Soviet Union into Chinese suppliers.

Only in the course of such cooperation can we get in touch with more Soviet technical personnel, and then…

“What do you mean, let our best fighter aircraft manufacturer be your spare parts supplier?” Oleg tried his best to suppress his anger.

He is not interested in the way of cooperation proposed by Xie Kai.

The powerful Soviet Union. Only supporting factories have always been needed, not contemporary factories for the Chinese.

Nothing is possible.

This is a trampling on the dignity of the Soviet Union!

Even Misavichowski looked at Xie Kai with a cold face, shook his head and snorted coldly, “Thank you, we have a huge domestic order that can’t be produced.”

Xie Kai looked at the reaction of the Soviets with a smile on his face.



He smiled and said to them, “Gentlemen, this is not for the Soviet factory to give the Chinese contemporary factory. This is to strengthen the cooperation between the two sides. We have orders, and you have huge production capacity. Of course, this is in Without affecting your domestic production…Of course, if you really can’t free up production capacity in your country, it’s just like I haven’t said it.”

Xie Kai despised the Soviets’ face-saving behavior.

They can’t live anymore, and they don’t accept OEM orders for the so-called dignity. It’s just a bunch of great mallets!

Therefore, the Soviet Union will be played by these guys, and Xie Kai is now completely understandable.

He wanted to directly ask, according to the Soviets, the factories in the Soviet Union all have domestic orders that cannot be produced. Why do they need to sit here and negotiate…

Does exporting fighter jets do not need production capacity?

Xie Kai finally didn’t ask.

If I really asked, the cooperation with the Soviets would be completely impossible to discuss. The other party would definitely turn his face immediately and throw him out of the An-225 that has not yet taken off.

Alexei is still more interested in Xie Kai’s proposal, especially Xie Kai’s euphemism. He looked at the ugly-faced Minister of Aviation Industry and the Chairman of the Military Industry Council. They did not object, and then said to Xie Kai, “Thanks, Which parts need to be co-produced? As a friend, for the sake of our friendship, the MiG manufacturing plant can allocate part of the production capacity to help you complete the production.”

Xie Kai cursed secretly in his heart, without showing up on his face, looking at Alexei Federov, “Mainly in terms of materials and machining, your technology is more mature than ours, and the technical team is more experienced… Of course, all production must be completed in strict accordance with the quality requirements. During acceptance, inspections are also carried out in accordance with the quality requirements, and the processing fees are paid only when the inspection is passed…”

His request is not excessive, and the Soviets have no opinion.

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