Rebirth of Military Workers
Chapter 1336
Chapter 1336
“200 fighters, it is impossible. Su-27 performance itself has problems, our air force can not be equipped with so many.”
Xie Kai seriously denied the unreasonable demands of the Soviets.
It is impossible to satisfy the number proposed by the Soviets.
The Soviet sneered, and the boy thought that no one knew what he was thinking.
If you really know so clearly as he said yesterday and know that the performance is flawed, why would you still purchase?
The first batch of 30 aircraft, the second batch began to be assembled by China, the same is 30.
Simonov snorted coldly, “Thanks, you should be very clear about the performance of the Su-27 fighter. If it is so bad, the Su-27 does not meet the needs of your air force at all. Buying it back is just a waste of money. Is too much money wasted?”
Chervakov felt that Xie Kai had gone too far and had no sincerity at all.
Looking at Xie Kai with a sullen face, “Thank you, if you want to reach a cooperation, both parties must show sincerity. We have shown our sincerity and agreed to export technology to you, but you have no sincerity in terms of quantity.”
“Su-27 has only air combat capability. What we need is comprehensive combat capability, which is also the requirement of the new generation of fighters. What is the comprehensive performance of the Su-27, don’t I need to say? If it can meet the demand, it would be a little bit to purchase 200 aircraft. ”
Xie Kai said angrily.
The Soviets originally wanted to express their dissatisfaction, and they knew that after the rebuttal, the other party was likely to come up with more evidence to prove that the Su-27’s combat capabilities were too poor.
The Su-27, which has comprehensive combat capabilities, is still in the test flight stage. It just flew for the first time last year, and it is impossible to export to the Chinese.
The Su-27 is just an air superiority fighter.
“Of course, if you are willing to export Su-30 technology, there will be more talks. Not only are there more quantities, but we can even offer higher prices…”
Xie Kai’s words shocked the Soviets again.
The Su-30, which has just entered the assembly stage, has not yet conducted the test flight of the first prototype, and the other party already knows it!
How many loopholes does the Soviet Union have?
Misavichvsky and Oleg looked at each other again, and both saw the weight in each other’s eyes.
This matter must be thoroughly investigated!
Simonov frowned, “Thanks, there is no Su-30 at all. We don’t know what Su-30 is like? Su-27 is not only capable of air combat, but also capable of attacking ground and sea. Strong, as long as it is equipped with anti-ship missiles and aerial bombs.”
Xie Kai looked at Simon Love with a smile on his face.
Don’t even admit that Su-30 has already started?
The Su-30 is an improved version of the Su-27.
Even the prototype of the Su-35 is about to fly for the first time.
“Chief designer, yesterday we discussed the structural strength of the Su-27. With the main frame beams all perforated, do you think it is possible to carry heavy heavy aerial bombs and long-range anti-ship missiles?”
The face of the Soviets became extremely ugly. Looking at Xie Kai, they didn’t know how to refute.
Under such circumstances, the entire negotiation initiative is in the hands of China, especially in the hands of Xie Kai.
When Xie Kai saw that they didn’t speak, he didn’t want to pause like this.
“Everyone, we have shown full sincerity. In order to improve some of the defects on the Su-27 fighter, in the future assembly process, we may introduce western avionics, the cost is quite high. If we use too much now We can’t afford to purchase with multiple costs, and we can’t buy it back, even without funding.”
Xie Kai tested the reaction of the Soviets.
The introduction of Western avionics to be assembled on Soviet fighters requires a lot of information.
Simon Love immediately roared at Xie Kai, “This is impossible! In terms of avionics system performance, the Su-27 completely surpasses the ANAPG63 radar equipped by the American F-15. The multi-mode operating system not only has strong anti-jamming capabilities, but also all-around. The ability of the above and below to track targets surpasses Western radars in terms of detection range, aiming accuracy, and multi-target tracking capabilities. We will not agree that Western radars are equipped on our fighters.”(Read more @ wuxiax.com)
Xie Kai narrowed his eyes.
In this way, there is no way to talk about the problem of the Soviets’ failure to recognize the design of the fighter plane. Isn’t this a matter of stealing the ears and stealing the bell?
When Bai Yanjun heard this, he also knew that Xie Kai said so much yesterday for today’s negotiations. The face and mood swings of the Soviets on the other side were extremely calm and totally inconsistent with the Soviets encountered in the previous negotiations.
Zhao Zheng and others are still in a state of unconsciousness, and no one intervenes when they hear Xie Kai talk about it. They just pretend to be very serious and listen.
Xie Kai ignored the fierce reaction of the Soviets.
I raised my eyebrows and continued, “Everyone, since you agree to our introduction of technology, after the introduction of the technology, any modifications made on the basis of your technology, whether you use Western avionics systems or our domestic avionics systems, are all ours. Freedom. If it is said that the imported technology cannot be modified, what is the use of the imported technology?”
Regarding Xie Kai’s attitude, the Soviets directly made the decision to suspend negotiations.
After coming down, there was no communication between the two parties.
The Soviets did not expect that negotiations would become so difficult. Not only did the other party know all the flaws of the Su-27, but the other party also knew about the new generation of fighter modifications they are currently developing.
The Chinese know exactly how much they do not yet know.
How to talk?
Bai Yanjun didn’t understand why Xie Kai wanted to anger the Soviets. It was not good for the negotiation.
“It is not a good thing to anger the Soviets. Since they are determined to get their technology, in some respects, even if they know it, they can’t tell them. The Soviets have a very serious mindset about face.”
Zhao Zheng’s face was still a little pale, and his whole body was a bit weak.
Dissatisfied with Xie Kai said, “Since I know that the opponent’s fighters have so many problems, I just don’t introduce them. What else to negotiate? A waste of time and money!”
Even if Xie Kai gave them an explanation, they also believed that the Su-27 fighter seriously did not meet the requirements of domestic air force construction and development.
As Xie Kai said, the main purpose of Su-27 fighters is to equip naval aviation.
Zhao Zheng didn’t know what technology the 404 base had. For them, it was a good thing to terminate the negotiation.
Xie Kai doesn’t care about their opinions at all.
Doing these things has its own plan-the most advanced J-8II has insufficient range, too small combat radius, and insufficient ammunition capacity.
No. 10 project, the design work has not yet been completed, and the engine is not matched.
The Super-7 also has these fatal flaws, which are caused by the lack of internal space and insufficient aircraft thrust in the aircraft design.
It is extremely unfavorable for the development of the domestic air force and naval aviation force.
If you don’t introduce the Su-27 and wait for the domestic development of it yourself, I don’t know when it will be researched out.
Xie Kai’s cooperation plan made the Soviets once again unable to figure out what his purpose was.
Originally, whether it was speculated to introduce the manufacturing technology of the Su-27, or speculated that the Chinese side was for the AL-31 engine, it seemed that it had nothing to do with the other party’s purpose.
This kid is too slippery.
It seems that Xie Kai’s reaction and the demands made have nothing to do with these.
Is it really just to have the production technology of this fighter?
Through the process of localization of this fighter in China, to train China’s aviation technical talent team?
After discussing it again, the Soviets still don’t know what China’s purpose is.
Under the current situation, the Soviet Union can make more orders if it can order more.
Oleg thought well, “Even if the Chinese side introduces technology, it is impossible to produce all the parts. Apart from that, only the materials cannot meet the needs of the Su-27. You can wait until the discovery is made according to the conditions of the Chinese. If I can’t get it right, if I ask for help, the initiative will be in our hands.”
Although Mishavicowski had the same worried expression, seeing that other people agreed with the Chairman of the Military Industry Council, he could not raise objections, and could only remain silent.
China’s technology is no longer what they thought it was.
When sitting together again, it was already afternoon.
The Soviets agreed to the request made by Xie Kai and agreed that after China introduced the Soviet production technology, it could realize localization and freely improve the imported technology. However, there are restrictions on the technology of aero engines.
They pointed out that the contract does not include the export of engine technology, and the Chinese side can only purchase the complete engine if it wants to purchase the engine.
Originally, the Soviets thought that China would not agree to such a request, but before the other party had no opinion at all, they directly agreed.
No one disagrees with the terms of the two parties in the transaction, and the cooperation has been achieved.
Xie Kai looked at the other party: “Now that we have reached an agreement and there are no differences, we can talk about the price. I don’t know what is your reserve price for exporting Su-27 fighters?”
As the manager of the external business department of Sukhoi System, Chervakov is his own business to negotiate prices.
Seeing Xie Kai’s inquiry, he said uncompromisingly: “Thanks, the Su-27 is the world’s top 4th-generation fighter, and the top 3rd-generation fighter in the Western standard. Compared with the third-generation fighters in the West, its performance is quite superior. At present, the price of a single aircraft of this type of fighter in the world is between 45 and 65 million US dollars. As two parties with traditional friendship, in order to express our sincerity, our requirements are not high, each of 48 million US dollars.”
“For such a fighter, you are embarrassed to ask for a $48 million one? You are also embarrassed to boast that it surpasses the three generations of fighters in the West…” Xie Kai was full of contempt.
Too shameless, I pointed out so many irreparable shortcomings, and I am embarrassed to quote 48 million US dollars!
He immediately bargained to the Soviets.
“Gentlemen, I don’t need to repeat the shortcomings of the Su-27? If it weren’t because the range is large enough, the combat radius is long enough, and the ammunition capacity is not bad, then we would not purchase it. Such fighters, at most A plane worth 23 million US dollars!”
The price quoted by Xie Kai not only scared the Soviets, even the Chinese people were also dumbfounded by his price.
This is the most advanced fighter in the world!
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